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Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 5, 2013 at 08:43:13 in Politics

“Corporate nonsense, as you put it, backed by law is regulation. You don't have to care one whit what a particular corporation thinks in regards to you providing your own service. Unless government law dictates that the corporate nonsense is an obstacle in your way.

Which it does.

What other business model can you point to that allows a price to be given only after service has been provided? What other business is capable of charging grossly different amounts depending upon method of payment?”
Reid On Living Without The Filibuster While In The Minority: Bring It On

Reid On Living Without The Filibuster While In The Minority: Bring It On

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 21:24:42 in Politics

“So shortsighted.”

Dave60 on Dec 4, 2013 at 21:52:30

“If you think stopping the president from performing the tasks outlined in the Constitution then I guess I will agree to disagree. I guess you think Congress should rule the nation and forget the executive and judicial branches or did you know there were three branches of government.”
Reid On Living Without The Filibuster While In The Minority: Bring It On

Reid On Living Without The Filibuster While In The Minority: Bring It On

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 21:14:00 in Politics

“Try to understand how important it is to protect the voice of the minority. Whether you're in the minority or not. Our system of government is designed to make sure that the minority has a say. Otherwise, it's two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

The dangerous possibilities of ignoring minority voices is too much. People should be afraid, in my opinion.”

Dave60 on Dec 4, 2013 at 21:21:14

“I know how important it was so the GOP should not have abused it. Not allowing the executive branch to perform their Constitutional oblication is important . They keep playing their games and are being schooled.”
Reid On Living Without The Filibuster While In The Minority: Bring It On

Reid On Living Without The Filibuster While In The Minority: Bring It On

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 20:32:57 in Politics

“So shortsighted.”

Dave60 on Dec 4, 2013 at 21:08:03

“Not at all the GOP called his bluff after being warned numerous times. He waited longer than most would have to pull the trigger.”
NSA Tracking Billions Of Cellphone Records Daily: Report (VIDEO)

NSA Tracking Billions Of Cellphone Records Daily: Report (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 20:28:31 in Politics

“Hope and change.”

Wazzat on Dec 4, 2013 at 20:35:24

“Barak had the audacity to hope we'd believe in him..”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 20:12:12 in Politics

“You're confusing insurance and healthcare.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 20:06:04 in Politics

“The "old" system of healthcare is too expensive, I agree. However, when you examine why it's so expensive you start to realize it has way more to do with regulation than most folks would actually think going into it.

For instance, to setup shop with a new MRI machine it first has to be determined that a new MRI service is needed in the area you're in. Who makes that decision? The current MRI service providers. Conflict of interest? Absolutely.

The deeper you're willing the look into this stuff, the more likely you are to alter your position.”

DelKat on Dec 5, 2013 at 06:41:48

“Jo, the example you give is of a private provider giving market information. How is that regulation? Sounds like corporate nonsense to me.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 20:03:26 in Politics

“You think the government's doing a good job with social security? Seriously? The whole system isn't sustainable.

The idea that taxpayers are going to save money in the long run under the ACA is goofy.”

paverguy1 on Dec 4, 2013 at 23:16:28

“Let me spell it out as you are a bit slow, I was not saying that the fund is or is not sustainable,  My point was what it costs to administrate the fund. Sorry you were unable to comprehend that. They ( the government)  administrate the fund for apporximately an eighth of what the big financial houses say they would charge for administration. Seems a bit excessive to me. They must not know as much as the government, when it comes to financial administration. But I guess we all learned that the hard way in 2008. Your prognostication that the ACA will not save money may or may not be true, but neither you or I know that at this point. I am willing to wait and see. It may work, it is the conservatives plan in it's basic principles.  Hopefully, they were right. One thing is for sure, something needed to be done, we have one of the worst healthcare systems in the developed world. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 20:00:08 in Politics

“Short answer: insurance is good at analyzing risk based on the cost of healthcare. This has nothing to do with actually lowering the cost of healthcare, which is where the actual problem is. The cost is arguably so high *because* of the regulations already attached to the healthcare industry.

For example, to setup shop as a new MRI provider, first it must be determined that a new MRI is needed in a particular area. Who makes that decision? Why the current MRI providers, of course.

Basically, a free market approach hasn't even been given a chance to work.

The basic idea is to allow competition in healthcare to actually lower prices, as opposed to forcing everyone into insurance. Sadly, the ACA is pretty big mess.”

baby huey on Dec 4, 2013 at 20:10:34

“Basically, a free market approach hasn't even been given a chance to work.

Boy what are you smoking what do you think we've had all these years the free market and the free market says some people can have ins and some can't”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 19:56:20 in Politics

“Consider that folks who disagree with might not be inhuman. They might actually have different ideas and opinions.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 14:03:55 in Politics

“Because there is no mandate saying I have to drive a car. I don't have to pay insurance on a car if I'm not driving one.”

baby huey on Dec 4, 2013 at 14:06:56

“But there is one saying if you drive one you have to have a certain amount of insurance, this is no different.

But you didn't answer my question where's your plan to help get affordable insurance to everyone?”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 14:03:01 in Politics

“I'm not required to drive a car. I do have to be alive. So I only pay car insurance if I choose to drive a car.

If you still sincerely believe that you're saving money despite added government bureaucracy then I don't know what to tell you.”

paverguy1 on Dec 4, 2013 at 14:16:37

“the government takes .075% to administrate the social security fund. If privatized, most estimates are that private administrators will charge .60%  to .65%  to administrate the fund. That's 8 times as much, yet I keep hearing that the government can't do anything efficiently.And your analogy does not work. The comparison that you can choose to drive, is not apples to apples. IF YOU DRIVE, you must have insurance to protect not only you, but to prevent you from raising the cost of others who would have to pay your bill when you can't pay yourself. Health insurance should be the same. You pay your own way, as a responsible adult, so others don't have to shoulder your burden.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:58:37 in Politics

“Americans want it -- research that a little.

I get that you want your son to have insurance. Admirable. However, it's not your place to force others to do what you want them to because of your son. It's essentially selfish.

The thrill up the leg is a Chris Matthews reference.

The bullies are the ones who put this mess of a law into our laps without even giving an ounce of consideration to the feelings of the other half of the country.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:55:54 in Politics

“Ridiculous.

Listen, insurance is about assessing risk, specifically assessing risk in regards to the price of healthcare. It's not about actually lowering the price of healthcare. Lowering the price of healthcare would be a heck of lot easier without countless government regulations standing in the way. A free market approach has never been given an opportunity to work.

Arguing for personal liberty, suggesting there should be mandates forcing folks to do what a particular party of ideological beliefs wants them to do is in no way saying that folks should be denied healthcare. That's a decision for healthcare providers to make.

Healthcare should be given for a price. Otherwise, doctors are nothing more than slaves. And, I think we can agree, slavery is bad.”

pavedwithgoodintentions on Dec 4, 2013 at 14:23:01

“Hyperbole much?”

DelKat on Dec 4, 2013 at 14:07:29

“Jo, I am less concerned about the "slave" doctors who CHOSE to go into that field than I am about patients that require services but can't get them. We are the only Industrialized Nation to fail at this.  Saying Free Markets have not been tried is ridiculous.  We have too many markets.

Our system pits the for-profit insurance market against the for-profit health care industry.  Guess who loses - the patient.  Personally, I dislike preserving the for-profit health insurance market, but if you think the individual mandate is tough to swallow, my ideas would give you a heart attack (for which, at least now,  you are assured of medical help).

Our old system was too expensive for everyone.  The one is not perfect (on that we agree), but at least now we are taking health care for everyone much more seriously.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:51:26 in Politics

“It's not false. He's acting outside the limitations of his office.”

CedrickM on Dec 4, 2013 at 14:34:32

“If this were true and he was trying to be a "king" or despot, folks with your line of thinking would have been eliminated a long time ago...”
Obama To Speak On Income Inequality

Obama To Speak On Income Inequality

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:50:43 in Politics

“It's a hard knock life.”

sacmom3 on Dec 4, 2013 at 14:01:52

“I graduated from that school.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:50:02 in Politics

“No. I don't. I believe there's a place for the government. But I believe said government should be limited in power per the constitution.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:49:05 in Politics

“The office of the presidency has constitutional limitations. Obama is acting outside the bounds of those limitations.

You can pretend all day long that he isn't. But when the office changes over to someone with ideology you oppose, well, be forward thinking enough to consider what you'll be saying then.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:46:26 in Politics

“You're not making sense, at least to me. There's no mandate forcing folks to have children. There's no mandate forcing folks to buy a house. Providing an incentive is not the same as levying a tax. Clearly.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:43:03 in Politics

“Huh? How does no individual mandate equal denying a person healthcare?”

DelKat on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:48:30

“That is how insurance works, Jo. It is not profitable to insure someone with a pre-existing condition unless they are part of a pool of with higher average health ratios. Hence, people with pre-existing conditions (ie: people who need health care) were priced out of the market and could not get the care they need. It is basic Insurance 101.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:41:26 in Politics

“Stating that I believe in anarchy is patently ridiculous.”

FDRliberal on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:43:54

“Eh not its not. You have an irrational fear of govt.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:40:26 in Politics

“...the good news. lol. No back-end, no idea what subsidy payment to give insurance companies, law changed willy-nilly without congress, no chance of getting the young and healthy to participate at 40%.”

Don Atkins on Dec 4, 2013 at 14:03:17

“You naysayers never get tired of hating our President!  Why won't the GOPers consider joining the human race?”

oldseadog on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:56:03

“Bless you heart poor thing”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:37:35 in Politics

“Curiously, does being a bully feel good? Is it fun to force others to do what you say?

Myself, I believe in personal liberty. So it's hard for me to understand the thrill you get up your leg when talking about individual mandates.”

pavedwithgoodintentions on Dec 4, 2013 at 14:03:37

“Aren't you special...”

baby huey on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:49:38

“Jo do you pay insurance on your car, do you pay it on your house. You bet your backside you do. Now ask the question why aren't you screaming and yelling they are forcing you to pay that.

Fact is we can live and be happy without a car we can live and be happy with out a big fancy house but how good is life, how full and happy are those who are sick and can't pay their bills not so good.

I ask you what is your bigger and bette plan to get those without health insurance”

paverguy1 on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:45:47

“And I believe in personal responsibility, like not leaving your unpaid medical bills to others who are responsible enough to have an insurance policy. Now that IS a conservative principle. Do you drive a car, do you have insurance? Or does that go against your libertarian principles?”

stallrocket on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:45:30

“It's understandable that you feel oppressed by the requirement that you carry health insurance so the rest of us don't have to float your medical debt when you get hit by a bus. But look at it this way, I want the personal liberty to avoid your irresponsibility.”

kathy10111011 on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:45:23

“I get a thrill in my heart knowing my son has insurance-and inexpensive..

Only a man gets a thrill up their leg (EWWW)

The bullies are the baggers in the house who tried to REPEAL IT 42 TIMES AND FAILED...and spent 100 million doing it..

OBAMA WAS ELECTED ON THE ACA....AMERICANS WANT IT..

Go cry on World net Daily...PAT BOONE IS WAITING,,..”

Irmanator on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:43:30

“The same way people are bullied into having children so they can deduct them from their taxes. Or bullied into buying a house so they can deduct the mortgage interest from their taxes. You don't want healthcare insurance? Pay the fine/tax/penalty.”

marybanilow on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:42:21

“Did the idea of people being turned down for having pre-existing conditions give you a bigger thrill? Or was the idea of insurance companies arbitrarily turning down coverage for a procedure your idea of liberty? Did life time caps set you sailing along the red, white, and blue waves of freedom?”

DelKat on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:41:55

“Curiously, I find denying a person health care who needs it a bit harder to understand.”

R Edward Pearson on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:40:39

“All you have is limited personal liberty. Has been that way since 1789.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:35:19 in Politics

“Haha. Okay. In other words, reality, inside that bubble you refuse to step outside of. One day, someone you don't agree with will be president. You'll be screaming about the constitution and about limiting the power of the office to what it should be.

And rather than mocking you, I'll be beside you, supporting your cause.”

diveguy99 on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:48:28

“i've lived through many, many presidents I don't agree with. including this one. but the claim that Obama is somehow ignoring the constitution and doing whatever he wants to is just false. if you're going to be upset at the president, at least pick a real issue.”
Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Obamacare Signups Surge As 29,000 Enroll For Health Insurance On Sunday And Monday

Commented Dec 4, 2013 at 13:33:10 in Politics

“Is that any way to talk to a fellow citizen who's worried about the broken dynamic between the branches of power in this country?

Give it time. Someday you'll be worried about one office holding too much power. And on that day, I won't be mocking you. I'll be standing beside you, arguing with you.”
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