“Thanks for the reading list. I will add them. As to electricity and the bumblebee, my father told me that story back in the 1950's. Sure, they know electricity exists, but what is it? How does it work? They really did not know, but only thought they knew. My father was a radio pioneer and an engineer for RCA Corporation. And the bumblebee because of its size and shape is not supposed to be able to fly with the efficiency that it does, or to fly at all, but it does. Man has only now figured out how the bumblebee does this through a complex vortex of wings and separate muscles which gives precise control.”
“Wait until it blows over, and Mr. I Ain't Payin' comes to town some day, arrest him, put him in a Federal cell someplace under trial, and file criminal and civil charges. Collect the money the US is owed. Either that, or wait until he dies and file a claim against the Estate.”
“It was more likely Thutmose III that the Bible was referring to and not Ramses II like in the movie; however, trying to destroy the history so you can destroy the Bible and then the Faith is a favorite tactic of those who would do mischief in the world.”
“Exactly. My point is that these things were observed, recorded, reported on in the histories of various peoples, and I am not simply going to entertain that statement without a lot of proof, mainly because it smacks of racism and anti-Semitism. It sounds like an attempt to rewrite history and there has been a lot of that going around lately and I'm putting my foot down.”
ColleenHarper on Apr 13, 2014 at 13:59:30
“To your previous comment, I gave you a link from a book by George Stephen Goodspeed and three books by William Devers. Both individuals are archaeologists who have written on the empires of the Mesopotamian river system and on the early Hebrews. My comments come from extensive archeological reading, not racism or anti-Semitism.
The Old Testament is clearly the attempt to rewrite history. Scholars for the last two hundred years have argued and debated the dates of authorship of the Old Testament, and the two significant camps are the fundamentalists who believe in the absolute truth of the Old Testament, and the scholars who have studied the history of the region, to include the archaeological and literary facts on the ground. As an example, the Pentateuch could NOT have been written in Hebrew, since their claimed authorship is by Moses around 1450 BCE. The Earliest proto-Hebrew alphabet from archaeological evidence on pottery fragments dates no earlier than 1100-1000 BCE, fully 300-400 years AFTER the claimed dates of Moses.
No. I am not basing my argument on racism nor anti-Semitism. I am basing my argument on archaeology and scholarship.”
Carol Gebert on Apr 13, 2014 at 07:19:56
“Actually, those events exist in no-ones writings except the Judeans. No Egyptian, Phoenician or Mesopotamean ever mentioned such things. No artifacts exist. No buildings. Obviously tribal myths and nothing more.”
“There's a complete lack of evidence that electricity exists or that bumblebees fly, and yet they do. Thousands of years ago, would you have chronicled the history of a different, lower class people? Would anything remain to mark your passing thousands of years in the future? I think not.”
ColleenHarper on Apr 13, 2014 at 13:51:35
“David, scientists are very well informed on the evidence that electricity exists, and that old canard that bumblebees can't fly according to our understanding is just plain modern myth.
By the way, the Assyrians and New Babylonians (the ones who rose to power AFTER the Assyrians - there were Babylonians between the Sumerians and the Assyrians as well) both chronicle the insignificant kingdoms of Israel and Judah, as do the Egyptians. I recommend the book by George Stephen Goodspeed, A History of the Babylonians and Assyrians http://www.amazon.com/History-Babylonians-Assyrians-Stephen-Goodspeed-ebook/dp/B00CKZ9B9E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397411159&sr=8-1&keywords=A+history+of+the+babylonians+and+assyrians
Making stupid claims insults your intelligence. Educating yourself prevents such insults.
“I live in Mississippi. We don't like outsiders coming down into the state and telling us what to do. I last group to protest the last women's clinic in Mississippi was using a church's parking lot by permission to park and camp out in, and the community brought pressure on that church to withdraw its permission, so that they had to leave.”
“You are correct. The politics and psychology of nonviolence and nonviolent protest only go so far, and generally when your opponent is intelligent, not driven by emotion as the WBC seems to be.”
nomobull on Apr 11, 2014 at 18:17:21
“just like the kkk numbers starting shrinking when people stopped buying them as a christian group. but calling them the hate group they are.
I live in the south. and one of the best sights I saw in my lifetime. was when they had a march in the center of town. and were outnumbered 4 to one between the cops there to keep the peace . and citizens counter marching, in 2011. they lasted 20 minutes.”
“This so-called Baptist church should have lost their tax-free status as a church long ago, and whatever Baptist conference they are in should have kicked them out and sued them for putting Baptist in their name.”
“The man has "moral failings," but did not fail completely. He did recognize his failings and for the good of the church he founded, withdrew; and he also withdrew from other organizations and associations. This is unlike other situations I have seen, where the pastor stays on, gets some brief counseling, sometimes even divorces his wife and marries his girlfriend, and all the while draws his salary. I hope this pastor is able to be healed, and is restored to his family.”
“Eventually America will have to heal from that insult to its diplomatic mission in Iran; however Iran over the years seems to have done little to provide compensation to those individuals or to the country, much less an apology.”
“And the basis for your statement that they were never in Egypt? What facts can you put in evidence that says they were not in Egypt or part of Egyptian history? I suppose next you will be telling us they were never in Germany either during the 1930's?”
Carol Gebert on Apr 12, 2014 at 21:31:41
“The facts are that no evidence exists at all to back up the myth. The closest real world event was the expulsion of the Hyksos in 1700 BCE by Ahmose (it was his name and story that got garbled as 'Moses' but he was an Egyptian Pharaoh, not an Israelite.)”
ColleenHarper on Apr 11, 2014 at 22:24:59
“There are countless monuments in Egypt, documenting countless events.
And there is NO account of the Hebrews ever being in Egypt.
There is a complete LACK of archaeological evidence in the Sinai/Levant for a massive forty-year migration east of the Jordan. Remember, a whole generation supposedly died in that journey. Yet there are no massive graveyards, no massive assemblies of remains (pottery, bronze, tools, etc), no massive remains of flock animal skeletons, etc. The archaeological silence - the absolute absence of evidence - indicates no "exodus" ever occurred.
Moses could NOT have written the Pentateuch - at least in Hebrew - because the Hebrew alphabet did not exist before 1000 BCE, the time of David and Solomon at best. So, IF there was a Moses, what language did he write in? Considering the lack of "exodus" and the lack of Hebrew alphabet, we can eliminate the existence of Moses.”
“My question is why is it that democratic pundits, talk show hosts, comedians, and others seem to have taken it into their heads to advise the Republicans on how to run their party and their campaigns? I think they should all just be very, very quiet and enjoy the show! When evil is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, it pays not to distract or disturb the creature in its process of self-destruction.”
“These are amusing. I could tell you some that are not so amusing. The children hopefully will eventually grow up and realize that they had parents who cared and loved them, and they were very lucky to have you as parents.”
“Because they still have jobs and perhaps this mess can be resolved. Generally, the amount to find, hire, train, break in, and bring up a new employee to average efficiency costs a large company like UPS on average $25,000. Seems that a better solution could be had than tossing away $6 1/4 Million dollars.”
“This is a good thing. When the largest private employer in America does something, it has a tendency to affect other businesses. At least, they take notice. Walmart is not strictly evil as many would have you believe, for instance, lower pharmacy prices across America and $2 or $4 generic drugs were first introduced by Walmart.”
“Well, you may be right about the matter; however he indeed was a loathsome piece of work, so I could just about believe anything about him. He should have been fired years before he died. I had not heard the story about Jean Seberg. Someone should quietly remove his name from the agency's Washington building.”