“ on this site, I do
not your advice on how to carry myself online, and if you stopped making
assumptions about me and joined my list of friends or viewed my other
comments you would see I am FAR from sensitive.”
Jim Collis on Apr 6, 2013 at 01:28:39
“Oh, okay. Then here you go. You're wrong. It was not inappropriate. Your devotion to authority is antithetical to a free nation and the kind of attitude that fosters fascism. No doubt this felon Calhoun would agree that his right to be a respected boorish thug is absolute; However, he vacated whatever respect his position afforded him the moment he started blustering and insulting the other teacher and the students. Furthermore, Miss Grundy, your claim to the right to pass judgment on this girl based on some personal metric of proper behavior is what is inappropriate. Finally, the point of the reference to pussyfeathers and cads and bounders was to mock you. Usually I reserve this kind of thing for conservatives, but I've made a special exception for you. Had enough, or you want to ramp it up some more?”
“If you think a 19 year old in this day and age called him a cad, or pussyfeathers you need to snap back to reality. If it wasn't rude then it wasn't an insult, grow up. Secondly I have been on public forums a long time and on this one a lot longer than you. Keep in mind, you engaged me, I didn't know you existed until you commented, telling me you didn't think her behavior was unacceptable, which I have not denied, it is your right to do, so why deny me my right to think it is unacceptable? He might not have been HER teacher, as in she was not in his class, but he was a teacher of the faculty and he should be afforded some respect and I have not excused his behavior at all, but two wrongs do not make a right. If he was acting inappropriately does not excuse her from acting inappropriately too.You assume I was offended at your post, I am not responsible for your assumption, I was not offended I merely responding to your comment, you seem to be the one taking offense to anything I type that isn't in line with your opinion.And yet you want to tout freedom of speech. No one forced you to comment on my post, you chose to, and as is my prerogative I chose to comment back. I assure you sir, I have taken and given back my fair share of comments on this”
“Are you seriously saying it's ok to kill anyone who doesn't look like a cute 12 year old? If that is what you're saying shame on you, if it's not your comment is pointless. You should think before you text.”
“My point was in my opinion her behavior was unacceptable. As you said comments reflect the writer's opinion, what's your point?! While her free speech is protected under the First Amendment it doesn't mean it wasn't rude. While it's not just your opinion, your opinion is not absolute, my opinion got several likes, which means it's not just my opinion either.”
“You'll never meet me, or know me, so what do you gain from continuing to insult me and engaging with me? You contradict yourself with your own words, if you have no stake or gain in any of this you would have stopped replying a long time ago, even the person who insulted me isn't defending themselves the way you are doing it for them, so I ask you in your own words, why ARE you bothering?”
the-lexicon on Apr 6, 2013 at 11:26:10
“I guess I'm bothering because though the world seems to deny it daily, I still think there's some worth to trying to help people. Simply put, your original comment was the single most judgmental comment in pages of comments. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. You then got incensed when someone mentioned it, demanding that the person NOT JUDGE YOU. That's all. It was funny, originally.
What I invite you to do is go through a single day saying to yourself, "What if this guy is actually correct? how would people I interact with interact with me if they actually thought I was judgmental? Do they seem to act that way?
Just as an experiment. See how it goes.”
“I came down hard? Seriously?! Are you such a wuss that making an observation about someone is coming down "hard" on them. Did I call him names, did I insult him did I say anything bad about his character, other than that which he has portrayed himself? You keep calling it judgement, because that's how YOU see it, I explained to you I was only using the man's own words and lack of words as an observation against him, not judging him in anyway, just because you see it as such does not make it so anywhere else but in your head. You can have all the opinions you like but if I do not abide by them doesn't make me judgmental or anything else.
The difference between me and the person who insulted me, is, I was making an observation NOT a judgement, even though you continue to call it that, about a third party person based on their own actions. The person who insulted me, made a personal insult towards me unprovoked, I didn't address them at all...or insult them,
or even know of their existence. They made it personal, and then you jumped in with your two cents worth backing up the person who insulted me, again without any provocation to you,even though you keep saying you have nothing to gain for doing that, then why do you keep commenting, why do you keep trying to hammer your opinion and point of view as the only one”
the-lexicon on Apr 6, 2013 at 11:29:56
“When someone is judgmental, it usually is a sign that there is a lack of empathy. Empathy is the ability to put yourself in their place, and imagine the world through their eyes.
Oddly enough, most people actually want to do "the right thing." Most people who screw up don't do so because they're stupid or lazy or uncaring. Screwing up happens because bad stuff happened to that person, and they did the best they could...or failed, as the case may be.
Lack of empathy means we fail to imagine a world where the person who failed might have been trying to do the right thing, even though they failed at it.”
“I think swearing at anyone for any reason is unacceptable, maybe you don't which is your prerogative, but I am expressing my opinion above, not yours.”
Jim Collis on Apr 6, 2013 at 00:25:05
“(1) The article doesn't say what she said to the teacher. She could have yelled pussyfeathers! and called him a cad! and a bounder! for all you know. (2) You chose to respond to my post in offended fashion, defending your right to have an opinion. Guess what -- I have that right, too. (3) You have a problem with rudeness? Lady, you haven't seen anything yet. You must be new to the public forum because my responses are far far from the rudest things you're going to see here. Folks in here are going to be going out of their way to offend you when they find out how sensitive you are to it. Enjoy!”
Jim Collis on Apr 5, 2013 at 23:42:41
“What's your point? Every post in here reflects the writer's opinion. If you have a problem with people picking apart your posts and pointing out logical flaws (e.g., your contention that this was her teacher), perhaps public forums are not for you. Believe it or not, that student's comments to the teacher are protected speech under the First Amendment, so her behavior is most certainly not unacceptable. And that's not just my opinion.”
“My parents have been married for nearly 45 years and have lived in the same house together for the whole time, but she has always talked about him being busy and how she sometimes felt like a single mother...nothing to it, why must people read so much into things?”
“She acted in self-defense and did not plan to shoot Alexander in the head, stab him almost 30 times and cut his throat from ear to ear.Was she acting in self defense when she changed her story three different times after her arrest? If it was self defense why didn't she say so when she was arrested?”
myhra on Apr 6, 2013 at 03:49:44
“Why didn't she say so BEFORE she was arrested, Mara? Why didn't she scream out the window after the gun "accidently went off"? I have no gun experience but I do know the purpose of the trigger. So did JA.”
Gumblina on Apr 5, 2013 at 20:04:39
“apologies if I am saying the obvious ( unlike LAV I cant tell whether you are being serious or not in your last question as text does not convey tone etc), but JA seriously thought she would get away with it as the Police would find it difficult to pinpoint time of death and place her at the crime scene. She planned it like a TV Columbo murderer - but didnt account for the camera photos. JA knew she would be prime suspect but thought she could outsmart everyone, especially the Police.”
“Every day as we left for school my mom would say, be nice, be respectful to your teachers...everyday without fail she'd say that.”
LaVrie on Apr 5, 2013 at 19:59:10
“And your mom was right!”
caffeinedrone on Apr 5, 2013 at 19:21:52
“It is a struggle but I still love them even the ones that are..........you know what. One part of me tells me that if they knew otherwise, they would do otherwise and that this the only way they have been taught how to accomplish things.
I am just trying to be honest”
caffeinedrone on Apr 5, 2013 at 19:12:07
“Thank God for your mother.
I don't want you to misunderstand my previous comment. I should of made clear that not all of the students have this attitude. I do have some that are respectful and do what they are suppose to do.
“I agree with most of what you're saying. But as for the paid leave, it's not a mess, in a court of law he is innocent until proven guilty, if he gets fired or suspended and there is a trial that could be perceived as a sign of wrong doing and taint the jury. Until all the facts are in he is on paid leave, innocent until proven guilty.”
ebbjib75 on Apr 5, 2013 at 21:46:44
“There are institutions that would have fired him for this. He may be lucky he is on paid leave. I have seen and know men And women placed out the door for less. I'm sorry but I can not see him doing what he did after he instigated the whole affair and not being let go.”
“The sub teacher also supported the kid's version of the story, but then the sub could be lying for some unknown reason - funny you mention video, how come there is no video of this, kids take videos of everything now especially a student/teacher fight!”
“While the student's behavior is un-acceptable and she showed flagrant disrespect for her teacher, he is the teacher, he should be equipped to be able to diffuse these kinds of situation without violence. He wanted her name and she refused to give it to him - he saw her hand in her paper he could have gotten her name from that or the substitute teacher, there was no need for the confrontation. Maybe he was annoyed his class was being held up, maybe he was having a bad day but none of that is an excuse for getting violent with a student.”
Jim Collis on Apr 5, 2013 at 20:52:34
“Doesn't sound to me like the student's behavior was unacceptable at all. Respect is earned; some positions come with a certain level of respect, but the individual holding that position is more than capable of negating that respect by his or her behavior. Plus, he wasn't HER teacher; he was, according to the article, being disrespectful to her teacher, whom she apparently defended.”
RockyTopUT on Apr 5, 2013 at 19:17:17
“If he was rude to his students his behavior is unacceptable. Educators should never rude to their students. Plus the students money is the reason he has a job to begin with.”
“Who was more desperate the teacher or the boys?!?!
But on a serious note,this woman should be prosecuted to the fullest. Not only is it disgusting sexual behavior but also a betrayal of the trust put in her by parents to protect their children and an abuse of her position of authority.”
Kevin Walters on Apr 5, 2013 at 22:26:28
“Wow I bet you wrote that with a serious face....”
“In your own words then I was justified in calling the person who called me "uppity", he/she was making an assessment not even based on fact, just because they don't like my comment and deem me uppity does not make me so. Thanks for clearing that up as for the original article, once again he had yet to address paying his child support but only of paying neighbors rents, there again, according to your explanation of what the word 'judge' means, I was not making an assessment I was commenting based on his own words, or in this case the lack of them.”
the-lexicon on Apr 5, 2013 at 22:17:47
“actually, you really need to look up "self-awareness" in wikipedia or somewhere. You need to get you some. Now, why would I ever bother to say something like that to someone I don't know and will never meet? What do I gain by that? What's in it for me?
Nothing in it for me. Doesn't help me. I get nothing from it. You do, though.
You came down HARD in judgment on someone, and in your next breath got angry at someone for being judgmental of you. There's something here that you're missing.
That's all. I urge you to think about it for a bit. It will ultimately help you tremendously in life, if you figure it out.”
“Some people are hopeless I suppose - I am not a combative person I just found great irony in her insulting, criticizing, giving me orders, judging me and threatening to report me just because she didn't like my views while claiming to be Christian and THEN accusing me of all that. Some people don't really read things or only have one way of looking at something and if your opinion is even slightly different, or they didn't understand it they start foaming at the mouth and go on a rampage, welcome to HP! I remember your comment from before, look forward to seeing more of a voice of reason.”