Mar 28, 2014 at 19:01:07
“What you are describing is not what would normally be considered a part of the MRA. Groups like your father's that espouse male bonding are typically ridiculed in movies and TV by the very patriarchical forces that feminism is trying to dismantle. The MRA are a very specific and insidious group of men with misplaced anger and myopic views of the world and do not include just any group of men that get together. Your father's efforts are very progressive and much needed if we are ever to get past this macho man BS.”
Kristal Garcia on Mar 31, 2014 at 17:02:35
“Again, more male bashing. Men with misplaced anger? Right. Way to dismiss the suffering of men.”
Daniel Martnez on Mar 28, 2014 at 20:28:43
“The Men's Human Rights Movement is a very noble movement for gender equality, and it has the advantage of not being based on a lie (patriarchy theory). Please inform yourself about the true goals of the movement.”
“The affordable care act comes directly from right wing think tanks. It was put forward as an option because everyone knew the insurance companies would never allow their political puppets to implement a single payer system. You could have had a proper healthcare system, but you chose instead to let Republicans govern from the minority and funnel more cash to big pharma/medical.
Your government is treating you like cattle. Wake up and demand first-world healthcare.”
AZterritory on Nov 2, 2013 at 21:05:27
“Single payer is really the only way to go, cut the middle man corporate 'people' out of the equation.”
Kyle on Nov 2, 2013 at 21:01:17
“If The Left could Pass this without a single GOP vote, Then why couldn't they pass single payer the same way. The Left ramed something down our throut, and they decided what they were going to Ram, Stop blaming the GOP.”
““If you were a C student way back in the day, and you were a white male, you just kind of cruised into a good job. And now, you can't do that anymore,” Smith said.
This sums up the entire article. You mean you actually have to be capable and competitive in the workforce these days? Misandry!”
LauraBethT on Apr 15, 2013 at 11:36:49
“Oh no! We have to go to work? NO! It's not fair!
Please, women have been fighting and working so hard just to get the same opportunities as those C student men and now that we are starting to they cry foul.”
SoakerCity on Apr 15, 2013 at 11:32:31
“If you are suggesting that men are less capable and competitive than women, I would point to six thousand years of history to suggest that is not accurate. The misandry suggested by the men's movement is that feminism has become an unchecked political force and men are beginning to push back just to stay equal.”
thedeclineofthewest on Apr 15, 2013 at 10:28:21
“Susanna Hoff Summers, a feminist, wrote a book called "The War on Boys" where she discusses that the educational system, specifically the learning process, is gendered against men. When people on your side are saying the system is screwey I think there's a problem.”
“It's spelled "you're." English is capitalized. More than one exclamation mark is grammatically incorrect. There's no need for a comma in your second sentence. "Three" should really be spelled out. An ellipsis should only have three dots. I guess that makes six errors in your statement.”
tand214450 on Dec 23, 2012 at 02:58:53
“same as texting for me!!!!!!!!!!!! I did not proclaim to be a teacher like (it) did.............”
Dec 16, 2012 at 19:06:43
“You do realize that Canada sees all the same movies and television shows that you do, right? We have a tiny fraction of the violence despite owning just as many guns per capita. You need to dig deeper than "blame violent movies and Halo". America's problems are deeply rooted and you show no signs of actually trying to address the true causes.
Oct 24, 2012 at 16:41:45
“And yet the rental vacancies are non-existent. Condos sit empty while people in need of housing fight over over-priced basement apartments. Well done.”
japes on Oct 24, 2012 at 18:30:05
“A lot of these condos sit empty too. They're bought as an investment by foreign interests who have no interest in being landlords. And they often don't buy one or two units. They buy a whole floor. And that floor sits empty. Also, they're a big part of the reason why the condos are built so small. They don't want to buy large condos, and the developers are happy to oblige. Add to that the fact that most of these condos only have a lifespan of about 40 years...they're just such a complete waste.”
FormerFL on Oct 24, 2012 at 17:55:16
“Pretty much. The lion's share of these condos are tiny, so even those that end up as rentals are usually aimed at high-end singles or professional couples.”
“Considering that Tagg and his brothers stand to make hundreds of millions of dollars when his father repeals the estate tax I think we should all question his motivations whenever he opens his mouth. It's not patriotism that has him on the campaign trail; it's cold hard cash.”
“There are a series of about 5 photographs from this moment that are available. The others show the woman with a raised clenched fist. That's not a nice tidy story now so that's not the photo that was chosen and filed. Take off your rose coloured nostalgia glasses and see this for what it is. Women are not prizes to be claimed during exuberant moments.”
aonemandog on Oct 5, 2012 at 15:47:40
“"Women are not prizes to be claimed during exuberant moments"...ain't that the truth; and definitely not without a prenup.”
“This was a satirical article written in response to an article that actually was sexist. It's people like you that would read A Modest Proposal and comment about not condoning the eating of children.”
UmaUma on Oct 21, 2013 at 17:10:13
“Oh, my dear, I did recognize what she was TRYING to do. She failed.”
“"I think that if there were a God, there would be less evil on this earth. I believe that if evil exists here below, then either it was willed by God or it was beyond His powers to prevent it. Now I cannot bring myself to fear a God who is either spiteful or weak. I defy Him without fear and care not a fig for his thunderbolts." - Marquis De Sade”
May 22, 2013 at 13:49:52
Canada British Columbia
“The Mayor of the fourth largest city in North America is photographed beside a man who was gunned down in drug-related violence just a couple months ago. This photo alone is a story by itself. There have been a half dozen reasons for Rob Ford to resign revealed just since last Friday. Wake up.”
“Complaining about the IRS targeting organizations who have expressed their desire and intention to dodge taxes is like complaining that the Secret Service unfairly targets those people who threaten the President.”
Sky Flyer IV on May 16, 2013 at 12:50:58
“There's a difference between dodging taxes versus wanting proper taxation and more importantly requiring proper use of those tax dollars and to stop wasting on nonsense... like the sex habits of snails.”
Jun 14, 2011 at 18:27:11
“"so few women who watch anime"
Alright, I was going to respond, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I was just at an anime con last month with 20,000 attendees and the ratio was easily 60:40 women, if not higher.”
gahnzz on Jun 14, 2011 at 18:58:15
“60:40 at an ANIME CONVENTION. If you were to look at this at a much larger non-geek ratio, I'm positive that it would be much different. You handicap your own statistics by cherry-picking data from a very select sample.”
Jun 14, 2011 at 17:18:50
“Is that it? Is that the entirety of your argument? No facts, just a false accusation of condescension leveled while dripping unironically with condescension. Touche.”
katiegeeks on Jun 14, 2011 at 17:34:05
“Fact: Smallville's strongest ratings block was generally males ages 18 to 34. Of 31,000 rankings of the program on IMDB, 23,000 of them are from men, averaging a 7.7 out of 10.
Fact: James Cameron stated that the Navii weren't mammals but had breasts because he wanted men to find the aliens hot.
Fact: The vast majority of show runners and executive producers of television shows are men.
Fact: The vast majority of feature film directors and screenwriters are men
Fact: Content analysis of advertising in science fiction and action programming shows that the producers are expecting a male dominated audience. (I don't have the studies on hand, but they have been done)
Fact: It is very easy to think that it's time to move past some sort of "score-keeping" when you have never trailed on the score board.”
Jun 14, 2011 at 16:36:48
“Somebody should tell Laeta Kalogridis, creator of the Birds of Prey series that she was objectifying women. Was she also objectifying women when she worked on Lara Croft, Avatar, Scream 3, Bionic Woman, Wonder Woman, etc.?”
gahnzz on Jun 14, 2011 at 17:21:56
“In a word - yes. All because a person is a particular gender does not automatically excuse them from propogating a stereotype.”
LouisatheLast on Jun 14, 2011 at 17:18:15
“Lara Croft? Your answer to how non-sexist this one creator's perspective is is LARA CROFT, queen of the anti-gravity boobs and short shorts? Yes, like the below commenter said- women can be sexist too. Witness the numerous female anime creators who persist in creating incredibly demeaning, sexist plotlines and characters. And I'm sorry, have you SEEN the advertising that was done for Birds of Prey? It was hot women in leather and platform heels. Is that aimed at women?”
Jun 14, 2011 at 15:34:01
“This article conveniently ignores a lot of reality in order to prop up its premise.
So we're ignoring the failures of the television adaptations of Wonder Woman, Witchblade, Birds of Prey, etc.? So we're going to pretend that Smallville wasn't created specifically for women? It lasted 10 years on air.
Do you really think girls watch the Twilight movies because of Kristen Stewart?
Poor, poor JK Rowling. Nobody is paying attention to her.
I guess the women in Avatar were just window dressing? What a bomb that was. I know it didn't bring in Ghost World type dollars, but still pretty successful.
Anime is dominated by female characters (albeit objectified), but in the western world Anime fandom is made up of mostly girls. Go figure.
Basically your article is fallacious and highlights an inequity that just doesn't exist the way you posit it. Women fans are not being ignored. Women creators are not being ignored. In fact they are dominating the bookstores, boxoffices, DVD sales and more. We need to get past gender score-keeping.”
obvsly on Jun 17, 2011 at 13:44:49
“And while I hate the cynical marketing idea that girls will read/watch/buy 'boy' stuff, but boys won't read/watch/buy 'girl' stuff, I do have to wonder -- would the Harry Potter books have been as successful if they'd been about the Girl who Lived? Or would boys have turned up their noses? Would Warner Brothers have optioned the movies, if they didn't know there was a male market?
Anime. American girls can get stories about girls by importing them, so I guess we shouldn't bother to address the problems with their lack of representation in homegrown media. (Leaving aside the often much more rigid gender stereotypes that are imported with the anime.) A good part of why manga took off in the US is that a portion of it truly is made and marketed for women -- featuring female characters who aren't spin offs of existing male superheros and who aren't overtly sexualized. And it turned out the market was huge. Weird that the American comic book producers and retailers didn't want in on that... unless perhaps the sexism in comic book land were systemic and therefore not entirely intentional or conscious.
By the way, women don't want to "dominate" geek culture. We just want to be an equal and visible part of it, beyond just as booth girls at conventions.”
obvsly on Jun 17, 2011 at 13:44:01
“"So we're ignoring the failures of the television adaptations of Wonder Woman, Witchblade, Birds of Prey, etc.? So we're going to pretend that Smallville wasn't created specifically for women?"
What an interesting pair of rhetorical questions. If it features attractive women (optionally in sexy costumes), then it is made for women because anything with women in the central roles is made for women. But if something features an attractive man, then it is made for women because women like attractive men. So ultimately nothing is made for men, because men don't like watching attractive women nor do they enjoy shows featuring attractive men (which is really too bad, because shows featuring men are really prevalent -- even ensemble casts tend to be weighted).
JK Rowling, the woman who was initially advised to use initials so that boys would buy the books about the boy wizard? Yes, she is the world's most commercially successful woman author. But in the same decade, what other fantasy authors have had their books turned into films? JRR Tolkien, Christopher Paolini, CS Lewis, Lemony Snickett, Neil Gaiman, Phillip Pullman... I can come up with two other women authors who had adaptions come out, Cordelia Funke and Susan Cooper (plus the coed team behind Spiderwick). That's not even close to equal numbers.”
jptech on Jun 14, 2011 at 17:23:46
“fanned, and responders should really ask TV execs about the CW network. That's what they pass off as content for "geek women". True geeks don't care if a lead is male or female. They don't wonder why superman was a man.
As for #4 just look up Felicia Day, she's a bit geeky. She created "The Guild" Not overly geeky when your audience is a pre-packaged nine million. Though she's akin to Seth Green.”
gahnzz on Jun 14, 2011 at 17:20:50
“Okay... you state 3 things that have had success (and 3 that were abject failures)... now, try and count how many books, tv shows, movies, comic books, etc that were created specifically to address the male viewpoint. For every 1 property that features an intelligent, strong, capable woman there are HUNDREDS that put them forward as objectified, weak, caracitures who need to be saved.
Lastly, the fact that you used Anime to support your argument is puzzling to say the least. Objectification is part of the issue, not an excusable byproduct. Part of the reason there are so few women who watch anime is that it the vast majority of it is insulting. Even Cowboy Bebop has grown men running around with females that appear to be prepubescent.
Until Hollywood (using the term generally) can approach the female of our species with equal respect as the male counterparts, this problem is a self-fulfilling prophecy.”
morethan18 on Jun 14, 2011 at 16:41:59
“ah, well now that you've mansplained this issue, I see the light. Thank you for liberating us, mister. Where would we poor womenfolk be without your guidance?”
jmpoff on Jun 14, 2011 at 16:32:30
“ok,wut i THINK she was trying to convey is:its about time and it CAN work so lets do this!flaws in UR argument sir:1.those tv shows failed becuz of poor writing n smallville WAS NOT targeted solely at females!it played on clarks "boyish good looks" but so wut.that was a way to say "hey chix,hot guy,u wanna watch this right?".it lasted 10 years cuz the audience was so diverse.2.twilight is a sign of changes but its only 1 franchise n these r still the early stages of strong female pov driven stories.3.JKR is well known yes,but again still early stages.3.women in avatar???only MAIN female character was zoe saldana's n still that WHOLE movie was from the magical white mans pov.4.anime is like 50/50 female leads n dudes that LOOK like females.ok 50/40 n the other 10 r non-effeminate men.5.n she never said they were being IGNORED. she stated how geekdom is higtorically a boys only club n shes pointing out how awesome it is sum r recognizing female geeks,now lets go further n expand it more.”
Emlyn Barnden on Jun 14, 2011 at 16:26:32
“As a geek guy, I'm definitely for more female-driven content (we're definitely starting to see it but more would be better). If it's good quality and has a broad appeal, then that's excellent. If it's good quality and only appeals to women then it doesn't harm me by existing. If it's bad quality then I can still just ignore it.
Whilst over the last 10-15 years it has become more common to see female writers in science fiction and fantasy, there is still an undeniable skew towards men. You've pointed out the rare examples in a field still dominated by men.
I have a friend who loves a lot of geek culture but refuses to watch Star Wars because that would really make her a geek which she doesn't want based on her perception of geeks (she doesn't realise that she's a geek, regardless). We need to stop living in the past and allow that perception to change, by bringing in more diverse creators and creating more diverse characters, if geek culture is going to survive rather than be an outdated boys' club.”
LouisatheLast on Jun 14, 2011 at 15:50:06
“Are you seriously suggesting Wonder Woman, Witchblade, and Birds of Prey were created for WOMEN, not as eye candy for men? Buffy is good TV because the female lead character is kick ass, smart, and sympathetic, not because she's hot. She's a PERSON, not a prop. The above listed flops, on the other hand, were sexualized and objectifying. When writers stop thinking of women as a separate species, then we'll have good TV.”
lilacwire on Jun 14, 2011 at 15:43:45
“TDOT, this is where you're wrong.
Women deserve quality writing (where the WW pilot, Witchblade, and Birds of Prey all failed), AND stories that are are told from our perspective. Good examples of writing and stories that speak to women are such shows like Xena: Warrior Princess & Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Oh, and Veronica Mars.
Part of the reason girls AND women have enjoyed Twilight so much is because it's a story driven by a woman's perspective, as criticized as it is.
You don't see the discrepancy because, as the author said, you are considered the neutral perspective. Avatar was a male's perspective of this foreign land. Smallville was a man's journey. And if you think men didn't watch Smallville, you are sorely mistaken.
Women don't just sit back and say, "Thank you for writing us crap tv shows. We'll watch ANYTHING as long as it has female main characters!"
No. We deserve better. We deserve stories driven by us that don't relegate us to a pair of tits and thighs.”
“You are a certifiable idiot. PDFs create layers, but unlike photoshop files where the background layers would be solid images you can see that the text layer causes data to be missing from the background. That's why you see white text on the background layer. Those white "shadows" of the text that appear on the background layer actually prove beyond any doubt that it was scanned. You are shooting your own argument down.”