Sep 25, 2012 at 17:22:47
Canada British Columbia
“How am I defending them? Did you read my last sentence. My first setnence was in response to the torture allegation, just making a point. These sickoes should be made to feel the full force of the law.”
“Poor guy, you have no idea what I was getting at. Inherent in my comment is a recognition of the skill of cops and , in this case, their ability to take down an assailant and presumably save innocent people. Even though they re highly trained they still caused a fair amount of collateral damage. Now think about the position of gun nuts who state that carrying average citizens are able to deal with assailants as support for conceal and carry laws.”
KrustySanchez on Aug 25, 2012 at 12:48:35
“Lol, don't worry I understood your point, Corky. I just mocked it, that's all.
Concealed carry is legal and has been for years in many places, how many times has this sort of thing you are worried about happened?”
“Yep they did. The guys who are trained and paid money to take down people in that exact situation took him down whilst hitting 9 innocents. Now imagine how the average moron who wants to be tough and walk around with a concealed weapon as his way of fightin big guvment would help.”
“Hopefully this provides a lesson to those who support carry and conseal laws on the niave assumption that armed citizens can stop armed mad men.
These guys were trained and they're efforts resulted in a lot of casualities.”
bryanzth on Aug 25, 2012 at 12:33:15
“Last sentence is GOLDEN! That is the point. Even police training results in errors. And when all conceal/carry vigilantes (which, BTW, where were they that day at the Empire State, haw! are trained to the level of NYPD or any PD, then I might have more confidence with the demands of the gun nuts.
And even then, confusion (plain clothes, no communicatio) could result in a real gunfight at the Manhattan Corral!
KrustySanchez on Aug 25, 2012 at 12:28:34
“Your selection bias is amusing. Since you're now randomly paralleling cops with concealed carry, how about all the times cops have saved lives with their guns? You just going to ignore those, I guess?
I'm kidding..of course you'll ignore those.”
freethinkergirl on Aug 25, 2012 at 12:27:02
“You are so right and so fanned and faved.....it shows that it's almost impossible to know who is the perpetrator in the chaos....not to mention how difficult it is to hit a moving target!!!!”
“Up here in Canada our debt was reduced and our government ran successive deficits from the mid 90's to 2008. in my province of Newfoundland and Labrador we have reduced our debt and have surpluses in some of the years since 2008.
Not bad for a bunch of socialists.
Government can do these things, it just needs to be a smart and functioning government.”