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Keith Ashfield Called Out Over 'Good Wife' Comment (VIDEO)

Keith Ashfield Called Out Over 'Good Wife' Comment (VIDEO)

Commented Mar 28, 2013 at 19:38:49 in Canada Politics

“I would prefer that you at least read my post before you assail it. I clearly said that being a good cook is a compliment. The issue is that the minister used an inappropriate compliment in the context. Why do you cons always argue at the wrong level of analysis? Obviously, women and men can take pride in being good wives or husbands. I clearly said that very thing about myself. That isn't the point of the post. Your obtuse argument that I am speaking against women in this regard demonstrates only your lack of clarity not my presumption.”
Keith Ashfield Called Out Over 'Good Wife' Comment (VIDEO)

Keith Ashfield Called Out Over 'Good Wife' Comment (VIDEO)

Commented Mar 28, 2013 at 19:32:16 in Canada Politics

“I would prefer that you at least read the post before you assail it. I clearly stated that being a good cook IS a compliment. Of course the young woman was pleased. That doesn't change the issue of the minister framing her actions in a way that was no consistent with the context of JOB creation.

Why do you cons so consistently fail to argue at the correct level of analysis? You argue that it was a compliment, my argument was that it was an inappropriate compliment in the context. Two different levels of analysis.”
Ezra Levant Roma Comments: Kory Teneycke, Sun News VP, Takes Heat On CBC Over ‘Jew vs. The Gypsies'

Ezra Levant Roma Comments: Kory Teneycke, Sun News VP, Takes Heat On CBC Over ‘Jew vs. The Gypsies'

Commented Mar 27, 2013 at 01:07:11 in Canada Business

“Wow, when you miss the point, you really miss the point.  Both sonofprattsville and harleyopenroad.  I wasn't suggesting that Sun and CBC were competing, I was suggesting that two models of financing were competing. They met and the collective model won. 
What you are suggesting is that if the collective model abandoned a collective model of financing then it would be 'even'.  But then it wouldn't be a collective model and you would be comparing companies and not models of financing (which I was).”
Ezra Levant Roma Comments: Kory Teneycke, Sun News VP, Takes Heat On CBC Over ‘Jew vs. The Gypsies'

Ezra Levant Roma Comments: Kory Teneycke, Sun News VP, Takes Heat On CBC Over ‘Jew vs. The Gypsies'

Commented Mar 26, 2013 at 20:15:53 in Canada Business

“In a way, the question of a 'level playing field' is an interesting understory. In this case, the two stations are presently representing diverse world views. Sun media takes the position that the open market is the best way to finance their service. CBC on the other hand represents the idea that collective action is a superior model. In the end, the collective model has proven to be more successful. Now the free market advocates are demonstrating their inability to succeed on their own terms so they are seeking to join he collective, while at the same time opposing it. The two models met and the collective model has won. I can live with that.”

HarleyOpenRoad on Mar 26, 2013 at 20:45:38

“The "collective" model requires over a billion dollars of taxpayer money each year to survive.

The type of "success" only a pure socialist could admire.”
Keith Ashfield Called Out Over 'Good Wife' Comment (VIDEO)

Keith Ashfield Called Out Over 'Good Wife' Comment (VIDEO)

Commented Mar 26, 2013 at 19:48:04 in Canada Politics

“Point taken.  ”
Keith Ashfield Called Out Over 'Good Wife' Comment (VIDEO)

Keith Ashfield Called Out Over 'Good Wife' Comment (VIDEO)

Commented Mar 26, 2013 at 11:10:21 in Canada Politics

“Your rage misses the point entirely. The issue isn't that women can not be complimented on fine culinary skills or on the likelihood that they would be a good marital partner, but that the focus of the event was on JOB training. I am male and I am an excellent cook and I make a good husband in part because of my baking skills. However, in this case the young woman was demonstrating how she had developed skills to enter the commercial market. His comment showed his underlying predjudice when he dismissed the obvious context and drew the young woman into his imagined frame of reference where women cook only as wife and not as commercial baker, cook, or chef.”

MKULTRA1 on Mar 28, 2013 at 17:05:01

“In your mind. Her Facebook comments have been posted and she felt the comment was a compliment. Stop pertaining to speak for woman and their views, who in fact respectfully take pride in being good wife’s and mothers. And in doing so it does not preclude they are not pursuing careers in all facets of industry as well.”

Imma Okay on Mar 26, 2013 at 15:51:17

“Or maybe it was a joke...no way to tell.”
Tom Flanagan: Watching Child Porn Does 'Not Harm Another Person' (VIDEO)

Tom Flanagan: Watching Child Porn Does 'Not Harm Another Person' (VIDEO)

Commented Mar 2, 2013 at 20:06:31 in Canada Politics

“'Stupid' wasn't a pejorative, it was a descriptor.”

Dennis Schmunk on Mar 3, 2013 at 09:56:36

“Like I said, predictable.  Are you the membership secretary or the bartender?”
Tom Flanagan: Watching Child Porn Does 'Not Harm Another Person' (VIDEO)

Tom Flanagan: Watching Child Porn Does 'Not Harm Another Person' (VIDEO)

Commented Mar 2, 2013 at 16:13:44 in Canada Politics

“Again, your argument is so ridiculous that I am beginning to surmise that you are one of the hired guns paid to sow confusion on Internet sites critical of your masters. You are refuting arguments that were never made and you are continuing to do the very demonizing that you previously decried.

The second paragraph that lists a variety of stupid ideas that have only been put forward by you and not your opponents, suggests that you have no real response to the discussion and obfuscate as a way of shifting the argument away from your intellectual failures.”

Dennis Schmunk on Mar 2, 2013 at 16:25:57

“In other words if I don't limit myself to the huckster paradigm that matches your political con game, I'm sewing confusion?.  If anyone fits the hired gun profile it's people like you who strut their clans talking points after the party club meetings in letters to the editor and posts like the current one that relies on words like "stupid'.  If you keep following this less than cognizant pattern; your replies will continue to degenerate.  Predictable.”
Tom Flanagan: Watching Child Porn Does 'Not Harm Another Person' (VIDEO)

Tom Flanagan: Watching Child Porn Does 'Not Harm Another Person' (VIDEO)

Commented Mar 2, 2013 at 14:50:24 in Canada Politics

“If your arrogance was matched with thoughtfulness your post might not be the complete intellectual nonsense that it is. You start by arguing that people who disagree with you are "less informed" and then hypocritically accuse them of demonizing others. The ridiculousness of that first sentence alone is enough to dismiss your comment. But, beyond belief, you then go on to "demonize" Irish Catholics and 60 year old professors in the manner in which you have just argued against. How pathetic is it to forget your own argument from one sentence to the next? In your own words: "rhetoric and logic need not always be strangers"

The second issue is that Flanagan's child pornography philosophy is not inconsistent with the political philosophy he helped to create in this country. I will repeat my earlier post which you clearly did not understand:“Flanagan's comment is wholly consistent with a stream of conservative thinking. In that ideology, you don't have to consider the context or consequences of a thing, but only the thing itself. You build a consumable product and it doesn't matter who was forced under what circumstances to supply the labour, it doesn't matter how the product will be used, and it doesn't matter how it's production and use will destroy the environment, the community or the life of an individual. The thing itself and the pleasure it gives is reason enough to have it. This philosophy is what drug dealers, pimps and Flanagan have in common.””

Dennis Schmunk on Mar 2, 2013 at 15:50:54

“Your point is diluted with hyperbole since like some others on the board you try to extrapolate one mans pecadillos into a broad condemnation of western alienation and its current forms.

However and how long you rationalize Trudeaus and Mulcairs view that "Only Quebecers are suited to rule Canada" or try to demonize westerners in order to preserve the status quo of the Quebec tail wagging the Canadian dog while they usurp minority rights in their own province; it won't wash.

I'm no conservative and my bona fides are long established while many of my neighbors are and your opinion of them is cartoonish but predictable. You have no clue as to how they think. They have grievances and they have foibles just like most Canadians.”
Tom Flanagan: Watching Child Porn Does 'Not Harm Another Person' (VIDEO)

Tom Flanagan: Watching Child Porn Does 'Not Harm Another Person' (VIDEO)

Commented Mar 1, 2013 at 01:36:06 in Canada Politics

“Flanagan's comment is wholly consistent with a stream of conservative thinking. In that ideology, you don't have to consider the context or consequences of a thing, but only the thing itself. You build a consumable product and it doesn't matter who was forced under what circumstances to supply the labour, it doesn't matter how the product will be used, and it doesn't matter how it's production and use will destroy the environment, the community or the life of an individual. The thing itself and the pleasure it gives is reason enough to have it. This philosophy is what drug dealers, pimps and Flanagan have in common.”

CarlyQ on Mar 1, 2013 at 08:22:34

“Very well said. f&f”
New Castle County Courthouse Shooting: Delaware Police Say 3 Dead, 2 Injured

New Castle County Courthouse Shooting: Delaware Police Say 3 Dead, 2 Injured

Commented Feb 13, 2013 at 22:22:28 in Crime

“Thanks for the reply. I guess we won't agree because we don't share the same understanding of the data.  The literature doesn't support your 99.99% data.  Here is a site you can use to find the best analysis of the data that is presently available.http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2012/12/16/searching-for-hard-data-on-guns-and-violence/

NY Trooper on Feb 14, 2013 at 01:27:44

“I skimmed that link and it appears that the data they have is older but supportive of my assertions. The literature doesn't SAY specifically that illicit guns account for 99.99+% but I am sure if you look at ALL the numbers that figure or one very close to it can be calculated from the data shown. I also see that they compare statistical rates per 100,000 population. to support the assertion that fewer guns in general results in fewer deaths one would need to calculate a rate based upon the number of guns present and the number of deaths caused by those guns. when compared in this manner the USA isn't quite the statistical outlyer that is implied with the comparison by gun deaths per 100,000 population. Thanks for the link! although even your examination of the content of a link you provided is unlikely to change your mind may I suggest that you read the materials more indepth.”
New Castle County Courthouse Shooting: Delaware Police Say 3 Dead, 2 Injured

New Castle County Courthouse Shooting: Delaware Police Say 3 Dead, 2 Injured

Commented Feb 13, 2013 at 21:59:32 in Crime

“NYTrooper. I fully agree with your recommendations and I think that they would go a long to reducing gun crimes. Where I think we differ is on the question of punishment. You seem to have the position that punishment changes behaviour. In fact, you seem to define it as axiomatic: if it didn't reduce the behaviour then it wasn't punishment. I get your point. However, I can't agree. Punishment has not been shown to be a particularly effective mechanism in altering behaviour. The reasons are complicated and I am afraid that I won't do them justice, but here goes. For punishment to be effective an individual needs to enter into a process of equating the punishment with an undesirable outcome. If we were all so rational, that would be great. Unfortunately, the vast majority of us do not respond to punishment with such consideration. Instead we shift to a place of feeling hurt and persecuted. That is, we don't say "I acted bad, so I got punished", we say "the person who punished me is unfair and threatening". Our response, therefore is not so much to change our behaviour as to act to avoid the punishment, both actually (evade the police) and cognitively (it's not my fault, other people do it too, the police are just mean). Which is why I have difficulty supporting punishment as a deterrence. Our real hope is in reducing opportunity and increasing the likelihood of apprehension.”
New Castle County Courthouse Shooting: Delaware Police Say 3 Dead, 2 Injured

New Castle County Courthouse Shooting: Delaware Police Say 3 Dead, 2 Injured

Commented Feb 13, 2013 at 21:15:33 in Crime

“First I would like to say that I appreciate the intelligent and considered argument you put forward. Too often disagreement is reduced to name calling and sarcasm.

So let me now respond to your comments, some of which I completely support. You are right that the measures you suggest would indeed help in the reduction of gun crime. My only response is that the are necessary but not sufficient measures. Where I part ways with you is in the assumption that all gun deaths are the result of "criminally owned guns". Yes illegal guns are a huge problem, but only a portion of the deaths are linked to these illegal guns. Unfortunately, far too many deaths result from legal guns used in illegal ways. This is particularly true for situations of domestic violence.

The second issue I would need to address with you is the issue of deterrence. I fully support your contention that increased penalties would reduce illegal gun ownership. Therefore, anything we can do to reduce illegal guns would be a benefit. However, increased penalties do not directly decrease murders. The reason is that murders do not generally make the calculation of benefit vs cost. Murders are very frequently crimes of the moment, reactions to immediate circumstances and impulses. We reduce murders by reducing opportunity. If the gun is not available, then the murder is less likely.

Thanks for the opportunity to have a thoughtful discussion.”

NY Trooper on Feb 13, 2013 at 21:55:58

“Increased penalties do not directly decrease homicides. However, when these increased penalties are coupled with the measures that block the avenues a legally owned gun would travel to become illicit, the deterrence that these increased penalties add to the reduced availability of illicit guns will result in a proportional reduction in gun violence. You are correct that gun violence will be reduced by fewer available guns to those who would commit gun violence. However, the guns that are important to this strategy are the illicit guns, since illicit guns account for 99.99+% of gun violence. Correctly stated fewer illicit guns will directly and proportionately reduce gun violence. If we try to employ a strategy which seeks to reduce gun violence by reducing the overall supply of guns(as in a ban), instead of reducing the number of guns possessed just by high-risk subsets of the population(targeting illicit guns possessed by criminals), would face the enormous obstacle of our huge existing stockpile of guns. Even if further additions to the stockpile could somehow be totally and immediately stopped(with a ban of all guns), the size of the stockpile and durability of guns implies that, absent mass confiscations or voluntary surrenders of guns(which are unlikely), it would be many decades before any perceptible impact of this supply-reduction strategy became apparent through a reduction in gun violence”

NY Trooper on Feb 13, 2013 at 21:54:45

“You are correct that only a portion of the homicides are linked to illegal guns. That portion is approximately 99.99%. Fewer than 1/100th of 1% are linked to legally owned, lawfully possessed guns. The predominent deaths that are linked to LEGAL guns are suicides and accidental deaths. Even if you remove the legal gun from the equation a person committed to committing suicide will still kill themselves even in the absence of the legally owned, lawfully possessed gun he would otherwise use. As far as accidental deaths by guns there are fewer than 1000 each year. which implies that we as a nation handle our guns safely. Although I think every life is precious when discussing measures of gun control that will be the most effective the number of deaths by legally owned, lawfully possessed guns is statistically insignificant when compared to the deaths caused by illicit guns.  ”
New Castle County Courthouse Shooting: Delaware Police Say 3 Dead, 2 Injured

New Castle County Courthouse Shooting: Delaware Police Say 3 Dead, 2 Injured

Commented Feb 12, 2013 at 11:18:37 in Crime

“The research doesn't support your argument. There is no consistent relationship between greater punishments and reduced crime. What does reduce crime is the likelihood of getting caught and barriers to opportunity. If you really wanted to reduce gun crimes, you would be advocating for increased servalence of guns and gun users.”

NY Trooper on Feb 12, 2013 at 13:17:12

“When undesireable behavior is exhibited we can either punish actor or reward them. Punishment is defined as negative consequences that reduce the behavior. If the negative consequences don't accomplish a reduction in the behavior we have not punished them. with respect to the gun control issue what we can do is create policy that requires background checks and mental health checks along with ATF forms (that require the purchaser's pedigree information and affirmations of his/her mental health history & criminal history) on ALL gun purchases both primary(new) and secondary(used) markets including private sale(which we would require to be officiated by an FFL licensed dealer for a nominal fee. Couple this with stricter laws governing the possession, use, sale & trafficking of illicit guns. Making the negative consequences severe enough that we can call them punishment. Instead of the 1 year in jail make it 10 years in prison. Then we have done more to reduce gun violence in this country than has been done since the 1934 NFA.”

NY Trooper on Feb 12, 2013 at 12:08:30

“Gun crimes can be reduced drastically if me simply close the avenues that guns travel from legally owned, lawfully possessed to illicit. That would include background/mental health checks and ATF paperwork on ALL sales including private sale(which we would have to require be officiated by an FFL licensed dealer. Deterrence is a product of fear of the consequences. In this particular instance there is NO fear of owning an illicit gun if the MAX sentence is 1 year in jail regardless of how easy they are to aquire. However, if we put the above type measures in place they would increase the liklihood of getting caught & reduce the availability of illicit guns(increase barriers of opportunity). If we then make the punishment, for possession, use, sale & trafficking of illicit guns, more severe(Mandatory 10 years inprison) we will have done more for gun control than has been accomplished since 1968 yet we have preseved the second amendment rights of law abiding citizens.  A ban would be counter productive to reducing gun violence or reducing the number of illicit guns in this country. The above said ATF forms could be used to create a national database to track guns from manufacturer to end user including all intermediate owners.”
Krista Erickson Leaves Sun News

Krista Erickson Leaves Sun News

Commented Jan 22, 2013 at 22:50:03 in Canada Business

agsterino on Jan 23, 2013 at 14:20:00

“I read it.Not sure if she was a hero or a zero.  It does indeed sound as if she was trying to dig deeper into Quebecor media scandals etc. ?
I admire reporters who dig for information to expose the truth on either side. She helped liberals expose the corruption of a former prime minister ?  I would at least read her articles.”
Canada's Environmental Health Lags Developed World: Conference Board Report

Canada's Environmental Health Lags Developed World: Conference Board Report

Commented Jan 17, 2013 at 23:53:05 in Canada Politics

“You have accurately identified that people in the environmental movement
Use money as a part of the process of furthering their interest in protecting the environment and educating the public about the cause. How that is evil, is beyond me. Are you suggesting that they should only promote their ideas with tokens and leaves? And you seem to object to the fact that some money comes from people who live in countries other than Canada, as if the environment were somehow separate across the political borders. And yet business works across the border and spends millions on advocating practices that result in environmental degradation every day and that doesn't raise your ire. Your argument isn't, in fact, an argument , but a burst of unconsidered impulse. It would be interesting to hear what you would have to say after you considered and reasoned out your thoughts first. Let me know if that happens”
Ujjal Dosanjh Tweets About India Gang Rape

Ujjal Dosanjh Tweets About India Gang Rape

Commented Jan 6, 2013 at 01:37:33 in Canada British Columbia

“While I have sympathy for the anger. I think that we should remember that it isn't the penis that is the problem. Removing the penis may result in no further penile penetration but it won't stop rape. Rape is a problem of the mind. Its also a problem of social values: devaluation of the feminine (both the internal and the external), a belief in power and hierarchy as privilege and right, an absence of empathy, a result of unresolved trauma, and something that we all play a part in. Whenever we support these kinds of values we create the circumstances in which rape is committed and excused. And before I get a reaction to blaming anyone but the rapist, I am not. But I do believe that we all create the social constructs that invite the possibility that rape will occur more frequently than when the social constructs are based on different values.”

AlisonCarnie on Jan 6, 2013 at 10:50:40

“As a woman who has never been sexually violated, you are absolutely right ...

I remember reading a story years ago that a 94 year old woman was raped by an intruder ... realized it is about hate and control not sex.

So much of the worldly culture looks at woman as property ergo men can do what they want.

The Roman Catholic Church, US in regard to abortion, women in the Middle East are not allowed to vote or drive ...

These boys have "watched" the manner in which women are treated and behaved accordingly ...

Not an excuse ... just a reason”

Toddynho on Jan 6, 2013 at 08:35:43

“Very wise, rape is not about sex, but about control and anger. Off with their heads.”

Geoff Zinderdine on Jan 6, 2013 at 05:37:25

“Castration is a very effective way of dealing with rape if done properly. You simply have to castrate at the neck. Any lower down and there is a problem with recidivism.”

Worldview99 on Jan 6, 2013 at 02:46:37

“It may not be the penis. And it may have something to do with an entitlement culture for men.

But it certainly has something to do with testosterone...”
Highest Paid CEOs In Canada: CCPA Study Says Top Execs Taking Home Ever Greater Share Of The Pie

Highest Paid CEOs In Canada: CCPA Study Says Top Execs Taking Home Ever Greater Share Of The Pie

Commented Jan 2, 2013 at 23:02:32 in Canada Business

“What this tells us is that there is money available for salary increases. The only question is who the money should be distributed to. It is these very same people that preach restraint to governments and the rest of us. What we can take from this is that we need to stop listening to what they say and pay more attention to how they act.”
David Suzuki Endorses Joyce Murray For Liberal Leader

David Suzuki Endorses Joyce Murray For Liberal Leader

Commented Feb 22, 2013 at 01:08:09 in Canada Politics

“While I believe that we need to get rid of the conservatives - because of their anti democratic behaviour such as defunding organizations they don't agree with, labelling people who oppose them as mentally ill, suppressing the gathering of scientific data through the census and gagging scientists who's fact finding studies do not support the conservative moralism - I can not support the parties making a deal to not run candidates against each other. Because I fully support democracy. Not running a candidate deprives the voter of choice. I do not want to vote liberal because that is the only non conservative running. I want to vote for the party of my choosing. This does not stop citizens from advocating strategic voting, however, because it leaves the choice to do so to the voter. The parties should put the candidates out and the voter should decide if they want to manoeuvre there vote for a greater cause. The parties should stay out of it.”
Keystone XL Pipeline Project Draws Climate Change Protesters In Washington

Keystone XL Pipeline Project Draws Climate Change Protesters In Washington

Commented Feb 17, 2013 at 18:59:32 in Canada Politics

“You can't be suggesting that anyone who uses any amount of fossil fuel is automatically barred from believing in and being active on environmental issues. That kind of black and white thinking is at best ludicrous. Obviously, we all need to use some fossil fuels if we are at all part of the modern world. The question is whether an intelligent consumer can pursue environmental values while being part of the modern world. What is being protested is not the simplistic use of fossil fuel, but the methods of obtaining and distributing the fuel. If we kill the environment by using destructive methodologies and transporting unprocessed bitumen thousands of miles across vulnerable territory, when safer, cleaner technologies are readily available we are being selfish and obtuse to the effects on future generations. Fossil fuels will and should be a part of our long term economic plan, but they should only be a part of a complex and thoughtful plan that balances our immediate needs and our future well-being.”
Fantino: Anti-Gay Group Funding Resulted From Sound Policy

Fantino: Anti-Gay Group Funding Resulted From Sound Policy

Commented Feb 12, 2013 at 01:28:02 in Canada Politics

“There is no doubt that communities of faith are frequently involved in important international aid projects. That should not in itself be a problem as all organizations have some form of value base. The concern here is that the minister failed to exercise good judgement in deciding which agency to support in which country. Uganda is notable for it's extreme hatred toward the gay community, to the point of advocating death. Canada has publically condemned Uganda's stance for the obvious reason that it contradicts the values espoused by our country. It would seem therefore, that a thoughtful minister would exclude those organizations from working in Uganda that in any way would undermine the condemnation expressed by minister Baird. It appears that Fantino is not employing judgement in his decision making. One is lead to believe that he simply OKs funding without actually informing himself and exercising reason. Instead we are treated to decision making based on personal (not governmental) rationalism. In other words, he act on emotional impulsiveness and idiosyncratic prejudice. Is that the basis on which we want our governance to be conducted?”
Occupy Ottawa Protesters Surveilled By Mounties: Documents

Occupy Ottawa Protesters Surveilled By Mounties: Documents

Commented Feb 9, 2013 at 22:24:26 in Canada Politics

“Your response is so brainless it's difficult to know where to start with my response. At no time did I suggest that I think I am entitled to "the fruits of others labour". For years I ran a small business and I am quite aware that my success depended only only on my long hours and hard work, but the work of all the employees, hence my support of "collective success". Only a closed minded shill for a narrow view of reality would assume that my statement reflected either Marxism or communism. I have no misapprehension that my significant economic success was a product of my singular efforts. I know that every business requires significant input from all levels of it's employees. And that also requires the collective tools of the educational system, civic infrastructure, and community and social goodwill. Your apparent hatred of even the idea of cooperation between people is sad.”
Occupy Ottawa Protesters Surveilled By Mounties: Documents

Occupy Ottawa Protesters Surveilled By Mounties: Documents

Commented Feb 3, 2013 at 23:54:42 in Canada Politics

“A note for harleyopenroad!
I am sorry about the last post. After commenting to an earlier post I left my iPad open and my smartass brother put up this comment. I would erase it if I knew how. I know that the notwithstanding clause has been invoked about fifteen times. And I think that is a real problem. Dam Liberal relatives!”

HarleyOpenRoad on Feb 4, 2013 at 00:39:17

“No worries, Yup.”
Occupy Ottawa Protesters Surveilled By Mounties: Documents

Occupy Ottawa Protesters Surveilled By Mounties: Documents

Commented Feb 3, 2013 at 23:40:43 in Canada Politics

“If your arrogance was coupled with knowledge, your argument might be worth the space it takes up. The not withstanding clause is a huge problem, but it hasn't been invoked so it hasn't actually undermined the patriation of the constitution. One for Pierre, zero for you”

Yupitmatters on Feb 3, 2013 at 23:54:42

“A note for harleyopenroad!
I am sorry about the last post. After commenting to an earlier post I left my iPad open and my smartass brother put up this comment. I would erase it if I knew how. I know that the notwithstanding clause has been invoked about fifteen times. And I think that is a real problem. Dam Liberal relatives!”
Occupy Ottawa Protesters Surveilled By Mounties: Documents

Occupy Ottawa Protesters Surveilled By Mounties: Documents

Commented Feb 3, 2013 at 23:33:23 in Canada Politics

“Your analysis is completely ridiculous sometimes. How could you possibly imagine that the primary cause of the occupy movement can be traced to the U.N.? If anything, the U.N. Is likely to share values with much of the sentiment of the occupy movement. The 'cause' of the movement - as the participants frequently stated- is the segment of society that values individual benefits over collective success. The U.N. is more in line with the greater benefit of the majority than the wall street crowd that was being protested against. Ergo, your comment appears to be both senseless and ill-informed.”

EastCH on Feb 4, 2013 at 08:16:20

“"The 'cause' of the movement - as the participants frequently stated- is the segment of society that values individual benefits over collective success."

And there you have it. Finally a Occupy supporter admitting that they think they are entitled to the fruits of others labour. In essence your "collective success" is marxist lingo for communism. We all saw how well that worked didn't we?

Maybe, just maybe, given all the opportunities we have in this country, the Occupy crowd are at the bottom of the heap because they are lazy, misinformed, and generally unintelligent.”

Octavo on Feb 3, 2013 at 23:53:08

“"If anything, the U.N. Is likely to share values with much of the sentiment of the occupy movement"

Of course, they are both after the same thing Globalization”
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