Dec 9, 2013 at 13:07:56
“The hijab is not just a head-covering. If someone just wants to be modest, they can put their hear in a bun. There's already a hat to this uniform. No, this is a symbol of a certain faith. What tenets does that faith include? Do those officers wearing the hijab intervene differently in cases of domestic disputes?
The uniform symbolizes the authority of the law that's on the books, where everyone is treated equally. What does the addition of an hijab symbolize?”
Rich Velay on Dec 9, 2013 at 15:37:40
“It symbolizes that that individual deems it important to themselves to wear the Hijab. Drawing any other conclusion, without actually ascertaining the beliefs of the individual, would be, IMHO, speculation.
The Hijab is both a religious symbol, and a cultural symbol. It is also a personal choice issue. Myself, I support personal choice and support legal entities affording people the broadest scope with regards to personal choice issues, within the restrictions set out in the Charter.
Whether or not these officers intervene differently with regards to domestic dispute cases is an internal disciplinary issue - if they follow the required guidelines, then groovy, if they don;t, then action has to be taken.
Judge people on their actions, not on what they choose [and are allowed] to wear on their head.”
Nov 25, 2013 at 15:25:17
“Just to underline the differences - in Quebec, the police would be the absolute FIRST public servants to be denied religious symbols on the job. ALL of the political parties in that province are open to the idea of restricting religious attire for public servants in positions of authority (police, judges). Of course, this is the Edmonton CITY police and it wouldn't be surprising to see Montreal's police encourage something similar. Ultimately, though, the provinces control the municipal governments.
They must just think of the hijab as a piece of cloth, when it is actually a very potent SYMBOL of something. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be so important to the wearer.”
Nov 25, 2013 at 13:22:08
“That's great. We need Muslim womens' insights on the police force when they go into domestic abuse situations.”
skizziks on Nov 25, 2013 at 13:40:24
“True....except since according to the Koran, a woman's opinion is only worth half of that of a man, the police will have to send two Islamic female officers to counter the evidence of each perp.................
"Qur'an (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."”
Nov 23, 2013 at 07:16:31
“The point is, these tests are going on all over Canada. They even do surgery to "repair" the hymen when it's broken. It's only in Quebec where it has come to light in the media and people dare question it. The women or her husband demands it because their cultural traditions require it, and the doctor agrees. Simple as that.”
Rayma Allaby on Nov 23, 2013 at 09:58:33
“bottom line is this......this is used as a tactic to keep women in line...absolutely uncalled for and no ethical dr. should be doing it...”
“Just because it's a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it's not true.”
crossaddicted21 on Nov 23, 2013 at 01:23:33
“And so far all the FACTS have been shown to be FACTS.
And the FACTS show one shooter.
And the the conspiracy theories are still just that.
And after 50 years they are still theories and NOT true until proven to be so.”
Nov 16, 2013 at 07:24:36
“Yes it does, because the point of the secularism charter in Quebec is to make the government apparatus neutral from a religious point of view, so that it can credibly and impartially make decisions on issues EXACTLY like this one in Taber.”
Emily Pei on Nov 17, 2013 at 19:00:29
“Quebec *belongs* to Canada.
Get a grip.......it *does not leave*.
All else is superfluous.”
Nov 14, 2013 at 06:33:43
“I would agree that the occasional recreational drug use is not the main issue. On a personal level, it's the alcohol that gets him into all these predicaments. On a political level, he's an embarrassment to Canada's metropolis, and a big part of being mayor is to enhance and develop the city's reputation.”
“Did you know that stealing bikes was bad? Buying a decent bike because it's at least cheaper than a car and pleasurable to ride is not bad. Stealing a bike from a person of modest means is bad. That's your lesson for today.”
Oct 30, 2013 at 20:03:46
“The EPA is infested with oil industry moles and has been almost since its inception. The industrials learned long ago that putting their people in strategic places was the way to go. "Even the USAs EPA" LOL.”
Oct 14, 2013 at 15:40:40
“You seem to think a country, a nation, a society doesn't have collective rights, that only people have rights, and that they are only individual rights. Others, especially those in Quebec and in European countries, believe that people have the right to live in a community that reflects the values of the majority. They've called that system "democracy". Individuals have freedoms, but those freedoms have reasonable limits. The community has its rights as well.”
kaladarbob on Oct 14, 2013 at 16:35:04
“You are right about social rights, but you can't take away an individual's right if those rights are not infringing on yours. If a law is passed then that is a different story, and the way I see it is the only way the law could get involved is if this test is done against each woman's will or if a doctor is breaking some law or code of ethics. I don't agree with this practice any more than you do, but until there is some sort of law in place, we don't have the right to interfere.”