“Well, the original idea was that the House would have turn over because they were the only directly elected body and their members would reflect the public fads and fancies of the time. Term limits are problematic, but the mechanism exists to throw them out every two years if the electorate is paying attention. Term limits prevent evolution in the body politic--granted the members of the present House might as well be primordial slime, but the people need to be more selective rather than just voting for the guy from their own party and voting for the incumbent in the primaries. It is our fault these guys are so bad and remain in office so long. Term limits are just an easy way out for the intellectually lazy who don't want to to their civic duty and pay attention.”
Jacy Jones on Nov 6, 2013 at 21:17:11
“Agree... comeon - if you can't vote the guy out every two years they come up for election, then term limits wouldn't do a bit of good (or bad).”
Hoangminh Thomas Nguyen on Nov 6, 2013 at 20:45:41
“Agree, there are pros and cons for everything. There's no silver bullet for any of the political issues right now in the US, except, maybe compromising?”
“When people choose to assemble it often blocks traffic. It is one of the problems associated with living in a free society rather than a complete police state.
The demonstrators were probably in fact trying to get arrested to make headlines,, if they weren't this is a serious violation of their rights.
When you are arrested improperly you are generally released the first time a judge hears of it. Odds are they were arrested not for blocking traffic, but for failure to stop blocking traffic--sort of a fine point, but it makes the difference between whether or not the police overreacted or not.
If the police asked them to move and then arrested them when they refused to do so, it is quite different from them simply blocking traffic, which is generally not an arrest worthy offence.”
“Most of the replies about this issue have been pretty blatant today.
The people who were protesting were protesting the Tea Party Republicans shutting down bypartisan efforts to get our immigration laws to make sense, not some huge give away for illegal aliens.
One of the things may people miss in this debate is that many essential services are performed by illegal aliens who pay taxes and never get tax returns. So in a lot of cases illegals are paying more for services than they receive. We need to accept that what we have in place is a major failure and figure out how to move forward because like it or not millions of people are here working in pretty horrible jobs for next to nothing and that impacts all of us in the job market--not because it uses up jobs, but because it lowers wages and benefits for US citizens.”
“Uh, I will again reiterate, what about being arrested constitutes "letting this go on."
Obviously they did not let it go on, in spite of the fact that our Constitution is crystal clear on the right to assemble and protest.”
Ralph Palmieri on Oct 9, 2013 at 10:37:56
“Congress barracked everything else besides this event . The vets wanted to visit their memorial they blocked it and other examples. Also these people are probably out of jail right now .I meant letting it go was they were able to block and put guards up on everywhere else but this they let go . Why make everyone else have problems but this they let go . Why couldn't they let everything go also . Next read what I wrote and understand it .
I also hope your blocked in traffic today so you see how it feels”
“Wow, this one really brought all of the kindhearted, generous, selfless Americans out of the woodwork. It's great to hear the angry incoherent roar of the Deadbeat Republicans shouting random things on Huffington Post.
It does not matter why 8 members of Congress were arrested while protesting in a public place--what does matter is that it is blatantly unconstitutional to do so, no matter what the issue is. The were trying to raise awareness for immigration reform, something members from both parties support because our present laws are badly broken and do not reflect reality, but they instead raised awareness of our police state and the dysfunction of a government prevented from paying the bills by a bunch of Deadbeat Republicans.
Repeat after me: It is Deadbeat Republicans who do not want to pay the bills on time.
The only reason the Mall was closed was because of Deadbeat Republicans. It is a public place paid for by taxpayer dollars and anyone should be able to assemble there for any reason whether the Deadbeat Republicans are paying the bills or not.
All of you wingnuts get back to us when the Deadbeat Republican leadership stops skipping out on the bills.
Until then, do us all a really big favor and just take some more Vicodin and crawl back under the bridge and mutter your racist thoughts to yourselves.
This message brought to you by Deadbeat Republicans and is not an endorsement for any Deadbeat Republican running in 2014.”
“Please provide receipts for your payments, and note that paying medical bills is a matter of self-preservation. When we as a society stop to protect the general health we wind up with things like drug resistant tuberculosis in all of our major cities.
When was the last time you had an illegal alien over for a BBQ?
Illegal immigrants have far fewer rights than citizens, but that does not mean they do not have rights as humans. People on the right in their ignorant, narrow minded, selfish, and blatantly racist way forget that everyone in this country immigrated here at one time or another.”
Ralph Palmieri on Oct 9, 2013 at 10:07:07
“I didn't know illegal was a race. You wrote racist so how is being illegal a race ? please explain this to me . illegal is against the law . Nothing to do with race . People want legal immigrants here not illegal . We also have rights. The right to expect people to fill out paper work. the right to expect people to come here legally , the right to expect our congressman want people to follow the law. So its only people who you agree with that have rights. I don't have right or you just don't care about my rights. Which is it. My rights don't matter or it does or you don't care”
“Will somebody angry and slow pay attention to the people's right to public assembly and free speech. It does not matter if the government is there or not, the National Mall is a public place and demonstrating in a public place is legal and Constitutional in the US.
I will be very surprised if a number of people in the DC police force are not disciplined or fired over this. I tire of the angry people who have ceased to believe in the US Constitution or civil rights. Whether you agree with the Congressmen or not they do have the right to peaceful protest guaranteed by the Constitution. The police overstepped the bounds as they usually do and somebody will be held to account and terminated over this.”
bobusaf83 on Oct 9, 2013 at 11:35:48
“First off I am not angry I was just stating the facts. I noticed you did not address the Constitutional rights of our veterans. These are the people who protected your rights to express your opinion. Also, can you enlighten me on the Constitutional rights of illegal immigrants? You say you are tiring of angry people, are you angry? If that is correct you should be tiring of the angry people you and I elected. If you respond please take into consideration that people other than congress have Constitutional rights. Let's make sure the stand up for their rights, also.”
Ralph Palmieri on Oct 9, 2013 at 10:03:03
“So they block everything else but let this go on because it a march for illegal immigrants . That's why people are mad. They try to make everyone have problems doing things but the minute people want to march for illegal they throw out the red carpet. Also I hope your blocked in traffic today and see how it feels”
Komrade Killjoy on Oct 9, 2013 at 09:42:52
“They were arrested for blocking traffic, not free speech. The organizers of the event asked people to come to the event and get arrested, their goal was to have at least 200 people arrested by the capitol police. Sadly the federal government doesn't believe WW2 vets have any constitutional right to be on the National mall, they threatened them with arrest yet rolled out the red carpet for illegal aliens. This was such a disgrace it was embarrassing.”
“The social disconnection caused by thinking at a vastly higher level of abstraction is often mistaken for autism or Asperger's Syndrome when in fact it is really just that an individual with an IQ of 160+ probably has much different things on their mind most of the time than the average person does. I learned early on in life that few of my elementary school peers were interested in contemporary events, politics, literature, or physics. They were in fact years behind and to a casual observer it would have appeared that I was unable to communicate with them when in fact I was just not interested in wasting my time on discussions of television or baseball when there were far more interesting things to think about. I'm pretty sure that's where this myth about Einstein originated.”
“Texas seceded from polite company long ago. Nobody is going to take them seriously until they stop wearing those silly hats and talking like Yosemite Sam after having gone to college.
At the rate they are ruining their economy and stratifying wealth they will soon be suitable for admission to Mexico on economic grounds.
If we don't want to change all of the flags after we spin them off to Mexico we can simultaneously admit Peurto Rico to the Union as long as they agree to send only their most ignorant and crazy people to Washington to represent them so it doesn't upset the delicate balance of dysfunction in Congress.”
“Did you take that verbiage from the Tea Party's charter?
I was most amused at seeing them so derided in their own convoluted style.
Don't you wish the conservatives still had William F. Buckley to tech them how to use the language well.
I miss the days when "conservative" was not synonymous with "cretinous" and there were people on the other side who made well reasoned, if unreasonable, arguments in favor of their despicable cause and nefarious schemes to pander to the wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
The conservatives or yore may not have been nice, but at least they were clearly intelligent and rational rather than crazed and dim witted.”
“Heck these days if you do meet your goals and get awards for exceeding them you are promoted and then fired because you have become too expensive.
The CEO wins because somehow we have forgotten that the CEO's administrative assistant is generally who runs a US corporation while the CEO golfs. CEO's at most organizations are either completely ineffectual or destructive.”
“There is no elsewhere, and if you don't know that you are even more ignorant of how the markets presently work than your posts make you appear to be.
Our system has become utterly corrupted and divided between the corrupt, obviously the side you are on, and everyone else.
When that happens everyone else tends to out number the corrupt and money does not make people immortal or invincible.
History shows us that when the system gets far enough out of balance the people take matters to the street and everything becomes worse for everyone except the corrupt people at the top.
They no longer have any worries at all because they are the first sent to the wall. This has always been so.
Either we regulate our markets and get our system back in balance or we will inevitably face revolution followed by a dictatorship--that is the way it goes when the rule of law breaks down as it has here.”
“What the CEO's fear, and it is a legitimate fear, is that if people knew how out of line their compensation was relative to the profit margins of the companies they work for somebody might pass a law capping their compensation to a reasonable level.
The CEO of a Fortune 500 corporation I once worked for limited his own pay to $1 after massive losses, but SEC filings showed that he took home $22 million in stock and other benefits in addition to the $1 he was paid in salary.
Our laws need to be expressed in terms of "total compensation by any means" and CEO's should be limited in their compensation to a reasonable portion of company profits rather than the sky being the limit at their stockholders unwilling expense.”
utilitybelt on Sep 19, 2013 at 18:45:16
“That's a classic tactic. $1 salary but only 15% tax on the millions/billions they have in the stock market.”
David in Dallas on Sep 19, 2013 at 17:57:02
“Yup. If I do not meet my goals at work I'm passed over for promotions, demoted or perhaps even fired. A CEO does not meet the corporate goals and he receives a bonus to keep in in the job. "Competition" requires it.”
“Not so. The advent of the 401(k) in the US lead to the massive increase in CEO compensation as CEO's became far less accountable because most 401(k) investments are derivative rather than direct.
That lack of direct investment by stockholders and large defined benefits pension funds left the CEO's with no adult supervision.
They are employees and they are ripping off the company's they work for and are often given bonuses even when their companies are failing.
Anarchy is not the same as a market. Markets have rules and only simpletons and the naive believe that stockholders have any serious say over the C-levels of these gigantic entities.
If you want to pay your CEO what you will, then take your company private. Nobody will stop you. But if you are selling your stock to the public you are subject to regulation and it is reasonable to expect you to do your job and not rip off the company you work for.”
maxwellhaus66 on Sep 19, 2013 at 18:36:24
“Very articulate. Very true. F & F!”
jwalter on Sep 19, 2013 at 16:11:07
“If you don't like your 401k, stop contributing. If the company you own stock in is doing things that hurt you financially, sell your stock. Markets do have rules. Money talks, BS walks. If you are unhappy with one company, take your money elsewhere. ”
“We are talking about publicly traded companies that have for the most part greatly diluted stock. The public invests in these organizations at one remove through mutual fund offerings and similar instruments offered through their retirement plans. They exercise little control over the management of companies they in fact own and those company's profits are being ripped off by the employees.
The companies' employees, the CEO is an employee of a business, not the owner, have taken advantage of the dilution of ownership control to line their own pockets at the owners' expense.
The SEC is tasked with regulating stocks and companies that offer stock to ensure that the stockholders in publicly held companies are not ripped off.
It is not unreasonable that one of those regulations should take the form of questioning whether or not a CEO is in fact worth the money he is taking from the company, of if, as in many cases, he is being over compensated to the point of obscenity due the stockholders not being able to exercise control over him.”
jwalter on Sep 19, 2013 at 15:48:57
“The dilution of stock is the stockholders' problem. The stockholders have control. They can sell any time they like. ”
“Jamie Dimon has know this all along. He has restructured JPMorgan so it can be resolved and broken into parts if needed. As far as I know JPMorgan is the only one of the "too big to fails" that has anticipated "too big to exist" and restructured in anticipation of harsh regulatory action.”
What we should call people who are elected to govern, who then choose to do nothing, is: Anarchists, not Republicans.
The Tea Party does not have enough votes to accomplish anything, just barely enough to accomplish nothing.
They have chosen to derail the government rather than participating in government by using their votes to bend the foolish and weak Republican leadership to their will.
I'm hoping against hope that the Republicans have enough sense left to stop letting this minority within their party stop government.
It would not take much cooperation in the House to take the Tea Party's death grip on the Republican leadership away, but John Boehner is either too drunk, too vindictive, or just too stupid to do what he needs to do to get the votes he needs across the aisle to make the Tea Party's no to everything vote moot.
At the end of the day the Republicans are failing to govern at a time when we need government to function. They have a lot to answer for and we can only hope that they are held fully accountable for their inaction next fall.”
slappington on Sep 19, 2013 at 18:08:36
“No honesty will ever come from those who enjoy entitlement over the broader concerns of the rule of law, fair play and full disclosure the game is fixed.
The present-day Loyalists to a corrupt system of economic elitism are no different than the adherents to claims of nobility delivered though the accident of birth.
This country is in the unique position to recognize and resist the Tyranny implied in either case.
The Tea Party are the one-pointed dunce from the corner, released into the fray through reliance on patriotic facade in the form of tri-corner hat.
Sadly, the one point they have managed to manifest thus far upon gaining admittance into the room, speaks only of truculence in defiance of progressive action; the very antithesis of reason and an abnegation of the thought processes inherent to those under whose symbolism they now seek to gain legitimacy. ”