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Why This Feminist Atheist Still Celebrates Diwali

Posted: 11/13/2012 12:37 pm

I grew up in a moderately religious household. My mother regaled my sister and I with the epic stories of the Mahabharata and the Ramayana, we went to the Mandir (Hindu temple) on a regular basis and my mother and my sister prayed everyday.

I began to question religion at a very young age. I suppose my early interest in science and constant observations of the mistreatment of women in Hinduism and Indian culture played a large role. Thankfully, I was raised by an intelligent, progressive woman who welcomed and encouraged my critical thought.

Despite what the girl on the yoga mat next to you might say, Hinduism, when practiced in its orthodoxy, is very far from enlightening, and like every other religion, is woefully guilty of being atrocious in its treatment of women. From the ancient practice of Sati, to the fasting of Karva Chaut, or even the ending of the Ramayana, Hinduism is no friend to the ladies.

Yet even as I started to question religion in general and mine in particular, I continued to celebrate Diwali.

Growing up, my mother would tell us how Ram defeated Ravana, and was returning to his home, so we needed to light the little clay lamps, known as diyas so Ram could find his way back. As we got a little older, my mother taught us about all the different ways Diwali is celebrated in India, but that all celebrations tended to have the common theme of good spirits prevailing.

Known as the "festival of lights," Diwali for Hindus represents the triumph of good over evil. The details of the meaning of the holiday vary depending on where you live for Hindus, and is entirely different for Sikhs and Jains, but that doesn't seem to matter as the entire country is busy celebrating lighting fireworks and eating burfi.

Sikhs celebrate Diwali in India to celebrate the liberation of the sixth Sikh guru from his imprisonment, Guru Hargobind Singh. Jains celebrate Diwali because it was on this day that Mahavira attained Moksh, or what is commonly referred to as Nirvana. If you are a Hindu from the state of Tamil Nadu, then you are celebrating Diwali to mark the death of the demon Narakasura, at the lands of Krishna. Often, even Indian Muslims, a group that the country has a long history of treating as second-class citizens, partake in the celebrations.

Diwali was always a particularly fun time for me growing up, and not just because it was the only day that I was allowed to use matches. India is a nation that is infinitesimally divided. It seems that Indians will use any motivation to distinguish themselves from another group, whether that difference is based on language, religion, caste, or region.

Diwali, however, seems to be the one day of the year where the whole country puts aside its trivial differences, lights up, and celebrates together as one. That's a holiday that even the most crotchety atheists, this one included, can celebrate.

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  • An Indian man dressed as a monkey god Hanuman prepares for a religious procession ahead of Diwali celebrations in Allahabad, India. (AP Photo/Rajesh Kumar Singh)

  • An Indian man dressed as a monkey god Hanuman blesses a bystander. (AP Photo/Rajesh Kumar Singh)

  • A band member performs during a pre-Diwali celebration. (AP Photo/Rajesh Kumar Singh)

  • Candles and lamps are lit across a field for Diwali in Allahabad. (AP Photo/Rajesh Kumar Singh)

  • Hindu priests perform rituals as devotees gather around an idol of monkey god Hanuman during Hanuman Jayanti festival in Allahabad, India, Monday, Nov. 12, 2012. (AP Photo/Rajesh Kumar Singh)

  • Indians light candles ahead of Diwali. (AP Photo/Rajesh Kumar Singh)

  • A firecracker lights up the sky. (AP Photo/Rajesh Kumar Singh)

  • Indian women shop for idols of the elephant-headed Ganesh for prosperity and Goddess Lakhsmi for wealth. (AP Photo/Bikas Das)

  • Indians shop on the eve of Hindu festival of lights, Diwali in Kolkata, India. (AP Photo/Bikas Das)

  • Diwali, marked by lighting lamps and offering prayers to the goddess of wealth Lakshmi, will be celebrated on Nov. 13. (AP Photo/Channi Anand)

  • Indian woman shops on eve of Hindu festival of lights Diwali, in Jammu, India. (AP Photo/Channi Anand)

  • Indians buy lanterns from roadside stalls in Mumbai. People decorate their homes during this festival. (AP Photo/Rafiq Maqbool)

  • An Indian girl tries to reach a lantern displayed for sale at a roadside stall in Mumbai. (AP Photo/Rafiq Maqbool)

  • An Indian girl lights an earthen lamp ahead of Diwali. (AP Photo/Ajit Solanki)

  • Indian passengers sit inside a crowded train compartment as they try to reach their home towns for Diwali. (AP Photo/Arun Sankar K)

  • A shopkeeper arranges bangles at a market for Diwali. (AP Photo/Altaf Qadri)

  • An Indian man dressed as a Hindu deity asks for money from traders. (AP Photo/Altaf Qadri)

  • An Indian potter carries earthen lamps at a workshop on the outskirts of Jammu. (AP Photo/Channi Anand)

  • Schoolgirls watch an actor dressed as Cinderella perform at an event in Mumbai, India. The event was organized for Disney princess fans from impoverished families to mark Diwali. (AP Photo/Rajanish Kakade)

 

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01:43 PM on 12/08/2012
we all need to embrace religion as entertainment....enjoy it....religion without the supernatural mumbo jumbo is a nice thing. It is about people coming together to party....good people with good hearts sharing special moments...how cool is that.
01:09 PM on 11/29/2012
Atheists should invent and celebrate their own festivals and hang around each other and revel in atheism. They cannot have it both ways. They should not participate in Diwali celebrations.

This woman is trying hard to prove she's sophisticated by claiming to be a feminist and also an atheist for a double dose of imagined sophistication.
10:59 PM on 11/27/2012
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Because, they are not even following any scripture or guru, just following old tradition blindly. A famous writer of Bangladesh called Humayun Azad (a self-declared atheist) once quoted: 'The more an Abrahamic people follows religion, the more fundamental he is and the more a Dharmic(including Hindu, Jain, Sikh and Buddha) follows a religion, the more liberal he is.'

Sarve santu sukhina vavontu, Om shanti. (May all creatures in this universe be in peace.)
10:59 PM on 11/27/2012
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In brief, in Hinduism, learned people like acharyas and gurus hold greater power than scriptures. So, they can guide their disciples, and people have the freedom to accept the philosophy, deity, sect, guru and rituals (in order) by his/her own choice. This is not true with any other religion. Let me give last small example. According to my knowledge, Raja Ramamohana Ray first started anti-sati movement and later Ishwarchandra Vidyasagar started widow-marriage movement in Bengal around 18th century. Both of them wrote several articles citing the verses of Rig-veda and manu-smriti supporting their movements. Moreover, they also showed how orhodox Brahmins mis-used and mis-interpret the above cited verse of Rig-veda. Just search and you will find articles written by them. If you really want to learn Hinduism, go to any authentic Hindu school like ISKCON, Swami-narayan, Art of living, Chinmoy mission, Ramakrishna mission, which have their vibrant presents in the west. But, please learn and experience with open mind,http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/supriya-dwivedi/diwali-celebration-india-_b_2121786.html# if you are really interested in Hinduism. Dont critic something with shallow knowledge. As far as I know, no prominent Hindu school suggests for Sati these days. I am not sure about what you meant by Orthodox Hinduism. Which branch are you referring to? If you are talking about some old Brahmins who do not even pays attention to scriptures and philosophies, then I will not argue at all.

TBC
10:57 PM on 11/27/2012
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Another unique aspect of Hinduism is that Hindu scripture does not command, rather always suggests things. Its an evolving knowledge passing through gurus and disciples. Moreover, they are really hard to grasp. If a novice reads the scriptures, he or she will even find contradictions among the same scripture. Therefore, you need to learn it through an experienced guru, who can guide you properly and deeply. Moreover, since there is no authoritative scripture or founder of the religion, many of the rituals and practices are CHANGEABLE over time. This is a sharp CONTRAST to Islam and orthodox christianity, which do not allow deviating from Quran or Bible. For example, animal sacrifice was a part of parcel of earlier vedic rituals (specially in Rig-vada time), but those were abandoned in later scriptures like Atharba -veda, puranas, and so on. God did not have any image or murti in vedic time. In puranic time around 200 BC later on, images were created for Gods and Goddesses. Then, the conflict between two philosophies started which one should be followed. Bhagavad-gita later reconciliated that. Even today some sects like Arya-samaj and Kerala vedic brahmins do not sanctions idol-worship. There can be numerous examples like that.

TBC
10:56 PM on 11/27/2012
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Hi Supriya,

I'd say your knowledge about Hinduism and its scriptures is too shallow. Do not judge Hinduism as what current Hindus follow. Even, Hindus living in different parts of the world have different customs. Hinduism is not bound by any authoritative church or scripture like Abrahamic religions such as Islam and Christianity. Hindu scriptures are an ocean, where multiple paths/philosophies/sects co-existed for thousand of years. Sage Ramakrishna says:'Unity through diversity'. Let me give some examples. Hinduism sanctions both theists and non-theists (Charbak phiosophy), represents God as both male(Vaishnavism, Saivism) and female(Shaktism), allows numerous philosophy based on the relationship between God and souls(advaita, dvaita, bisishta-dvaita, achinta-vedaveda), to name a few. In old days, people from all these different sects and philosophies used to debate on the bank of holy rivers for months and whoever was defeated accepted the winner as a guru. (Read 'Argumentative Indians' written by noble laureate Amartya Sen). Swami Vivekananda said:'Indian religions like Hinduism and Budhdism were preached by knowledge not by sword.' Different sects follow different scriptures also. Only Bhagabad gita and Upnishads are followed by all sects and philosopher.

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11:01 AM on 11/21/2012
People who grow up in the western world are influenced by western mores and think that Hindu view of scripture is similar to that of the Protestants for whom it is sola scriptura.

They do not realize that Hindu scriptural lore is like a dense forest and needs a guide to make sense of it all. A minimum knowledge of Shankara, Ramanuja or Vivekananda's writings (to name a few) is necessary before giving opinions in public about Hindu scripture or Hinduism.

Finally they have a non-critical attitude towards Western academic writings on Hindu scripture. They should read books like "Invading the sacred" by Ramaswamy, de Nichols and Banerjee or "Interpreting Ramakrishna" by Tyagananda and Vrajaprana.

They are sure to be shocked to read what Sri Ramakrishna says about Hindu scripture:

"The scriptures contain a mixture of sand and sugar as it were. It is extremely difficult to separate the sugar from the sand." [September 19, 1884],

"One cannot get true feeling about God from the study of books. This feeling is something very different from book-learning. Books, scriptures, and science appear as mere dirt and straw after the realization of God." [October 26, 1884],

or to read Sri Vacaspati Misra, another Advaita Vedanta philosopher, who says, "Even one thousand scriptural statements cannot transform a jar into a piece of cloth".

They do not realize that Hinduism is a laissez faire and an experiential system and not an authoritarian or a blind faith system.
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Pradip Gangopadhyay
05:50 AM on 11/20/2012
The most famous verse about women in the Sanskrit corpus
is in Chandi which is a part of the Markendya Purana:

Vidya: samastastava Devi veda:
Striya: samasta sakala Jagatsu (Chandi XI.6)

English translation:

All lores are your aspects O Devi;
So are all women in the world,
Endowed with various attributes.
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07:05 AM on 11/20/2012
Yes. We can find many more in the shruti. Smriti can be confusing at times since some of it goes away from shruti.
10:27 PM on 11/19/2012
Women in Hinduism :-
Atharva Ved
Atharva 11.5.18
In this mantra of Brahmcharya Sukta, it is emphasized that girls too should train themselves as students and only then enter into married life. The Sukta specifically emphasizes that girls should receive the same level of training as boys.
(Book: Mera Dharma, Author: Priyavrat Vedavachaspati, Gurukul Kangri University)
Chapter 1: Women in Vedic Dharma, Page 8
Girls should train themselves to become complete scholars and youthful through Brahmcharya and then enter married life.
(Atharvaveda-Hindi Bhashya, Part 2, Author: Kshemkarandas Trivedi, Sarvadeshik Arya Pratinidhi Sabha, Delhi, Page 413-414)
Atharva 14.1.6
Parents should gift their daughter intellectuality and power of knowledge when she leaves for husband’s home. They should give her a dowry of knowledge.
(Book: Mera Dharma, Author: Priyavrat Vedavachaspati, Gurukul Kangri University)
Chapter 1: Women in Vedic Dharma, Page 8,9
When girls ignore external objects and develops foresight and vibrant attitude through power of knowledge, she becomes provider of wealths of skies and earth. Then she should marry an eligible husband.
(Atharvaveda-Hindi Bhashya, Part 2, Author: Kshemkarandas Trivedi, Sarvadeshik Arya Pratinidhi Sabha, Delhi, Page 654)
Atharva 14.1.20
Oh wife! Give us discourse of knowledge
(Book: Mera Dharma, Author: Priyavrat Vedavachaspati, Gurukul Kangri University)
Chapter 1: Women in Vedic Dharma, Page 9
The bride may please everyone at her husband’s home through her knowledge and noble qualities.

Sabha, Delhi, Page 804)...http://agniveer.com/women-in-vedas/
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05:39 AM on 11/19/2012
This uninformed article is an exercise in futility. If Supriya is so seriously concerned with Hindu women then she should do something to improve their condition. One way to do this is to help financially organizations that are working to help Hindus. Sarada Seva Sangha is one such organization run by women which is working to ameliorate the condition of women. It would have been far better to actually help such organizations financially, if possible, than write an uninformed article. One can find out about this organization from its web site: www.saradaseva.org.
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12:19 PM on 11/16/2012
If there is any religious text that men should take offence at, it is the Vedas, they are utterly feminist. The God of Vedas is a feminist.
Yajurveda 13.26: O woman, you do not deserve to be defeated by challenges and obstacles. On contrary, you possess the power to defeat the stiffest challenge. Defeat the enemies and their armies. You have valor of thousands of men. Realize your true potential and demonstrate your valor. Please us all through your courage. The world demands that from you!
Rigveda 8.67.10: O woman, you are unbreakable. You are never impoverished. We urge you to spread happiness and prosperity in the world. We urge you to realize your potential so that we are able to fulfill our goals.

Yajurveda 14.13: O woman, you are the queen! You are brilliant like the east from where sun rises! You are possessor of tremendous potentials like the south. You are the empress like the glorious west. You enlighten us all like the north. You deserve vast respect like the sky.
Rigveda 6.75.15: O brave woman, for the criminals, you are an arrow full of poison. For defense of the society, you have donned an armor. You have tremendous valor. We humbly bow to your selfless glory!

And girls complaint!!....it's boys that should complaint to the Vedic god.
08:41 PM on 11/17/2012
would you say the same for the old testamament and the Koran? b/c just do some googling and you can find a bunch of similar quotes, it doesn't mean that either of those religions promotes gender equality....b/c no religion does.
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12:27 AM on 11/18/2012
No. I won’t say the same about Koran. There is not a single verse in Koran praising women. Not a single one .Nada .Zlich. You fail.
03:10 AM on 11/22/2012
Similar quotes in the old testament are here.

http://www.evilbible.com/
11:36 AM on 11/16/2012
Vishnu Dharmasutra XXV.14 : " On her husband's death, the widow should observe celibacy or should ascend the funeral pyre after him."

-- [ cf also Vishnudharmottarasutra VIII.p.111
for the same verse ]
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07:36 PM on 11/16/2012
Vishnu Dharmashastra is obscure. No one follows it. I bet you most people here probably haven't even heard of it.
08:24 PM on 11/17/2012
ah yes, so all of the references that justify sati are either too obscure or the translation is bad, or nobody follows it. you realize that regardless of the actual text the fact remains that for hundreds of years Hindus used Hinduism to justify sati, they didn't use culture or the socio economic climate. in addition, all religion, hinduism included, breeds intolerant people, as you and others have shown on the thread. it is clear you are all personally offended, and are no different than religious zealots from other religions.
03:11 AM on 11/22/2012
Please give an online link.
11:32 AM on 11/16/2012
"A wife who dies in the company of her husband shall remain in heaven as many years as there are hairs on his person (Garuda Purana 1.107.29)."

yup, what a pro-feminist religion.
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07:37 PM on 11/16/2012
how is this advocating sati? How is this anti-feminist?
08:26 PM on 11/17/2012
um, it's anti-feminist b/c it's saying that a wife is better off dead with her husband than living, thus promoting sati. it's called a teleological interpretation.
btw, it's laughable that somebody as religious as you is pursuing a scientific degree. tell me, how does a flying monkey fit into science? or a guy with an elephant head? or how about the holiday where a snake is supposed to drink milk?
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12:49 PM on 11/15/2012
"India is a nation that is infinitesimally divided. It seems that Indians will use any motivation to distinguish themselves from another group, whether that difference is based on language, religion, caste, or region."

You do realize don't you that India has 20 different alphabets, hundreds of languages and dialects based upon those alphabets, regional differences in climate and thus cuisine (Ayurveda agrees with this way of doing things), and associated rituals and traditions. This variety is what makes India. It is why people visit India because it is not a monoculture. I don't understand your objection... what kind of utopia do you have in mind.

Next, you have summarily juxtaposed as opposites the notions of science and Hinduism. On what basis do you do this? You should realize that the type of knowledge gained via science is accepted in Hinduism, but it is not elevated to 'the one truth'. Complementarity is the approach, in keeping with a sophisticated epistemology, which the modern West is learning about presently due to its own forays into science and Eastern philosophy. Your analysis is extremely lazy... what findings of science does Hinduism or Hindus oppose? Your analysis fits the bible belt. Don't bother extending it into places where you cannot support this with argument.
11:09 AM on 11/16/2012
let me go out on a limb and guess that you're not Canadian.
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songs of the shamans...
07:36 PM on 11/16/2012
Actually, I have lived in Canada for decades, and am there currently. So what was your point supposed to be?
11:20 AM on 11/16/2012
yeah...science and religion don't mix, no matter what the religion. all you seem to be saying is that Hindu is somehow this magic teflon religion where no critiques apply.
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songs of the shamans...
07:39 PM on 11/16/2012
Your analysis is worth about 2 cents. How about beginning by defining science and religion. Then you would need to know Hindu epistemology, about vigyana and gyana and much more besides, and then you could see where scientific knowledge fits within the Hindu epistemic approach.

Like most people, you are confusing the monotheistic faiths with the Dharmas. Here, educate yourself... http://archive.org/details/AHistoryOfIndianPhilosophyBySurendranathDasgupta-5Volumes (2517), and then come back and make a relevant critique. See ya...
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10:18 AM on 11/15/2012
I don't think even you have read the sources you provide Supriya. From 'Contentious Traditions: The Debate on Sati in Colonial India, by Lata Mani' pg 8 and I quote "Officials,... were divided on the political costs of intervening in what they construed as an inviolable aspect of Hindu tradition. THIS BELIEF IN THE ESSENTIALLY RELIGIOUS CHARACTER OF SATI PERSISTED DESPITE STRONG EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY". And here your boot-lickers are getting all excited that you have disproved us brute Indian male chauvinists with references you yourself have not bothered to read properly. This topic is extremely complicated and the historical and cultural backdrop that gave rise to sati, child marriage, female infanticide and the like have to be considered before we can brush broad strokes about 'Hindu society'.
11:12 AM on 11/16/2012
and let me go out on a limb and guess that you've never taken a feminist critique of religion class...

you realize that sati being a sanctioned practice in Hinduism has been given a lot of weight in the past, surely this can't be the first time you have ever read this anywhere...yes, it is a debated issue, but that doesn't mean that it is settled.

the fact that you are getting so personally offended is only proving her overall point on religion.
11:36 AM on 11/16/2012
yes, did you read the other sources? also, how about this?

Brahma Purana.80.75 : " It is the highest duty of the woman to immolate herself after her husband ",

or how do you explain the story of Roop Kanwar? or why Raj Gandhi needed to pass a law in 1987 that would make sure Hindus no longer glorified sati?
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07:42 PM on 11/16/2012
When someone provides references, they should correspond to their point of view if they are trying to make a point. Nice try at going off on a tangent and distracting from the point that Supriya does not know what she is talking about. Supriya has already lost credibility, so I don't care for other sources from her. Don't drag yourself into this pit. You should be able to explain the Lata Mani reference... you seem to be a person who has never heard of the opposition's viewpoint on the issue of sati, perhaps you should read about them.
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07:45 PM on 11/16/2012
You keep making obscure references... you seem to be someone who doesn't know much about Hinduism and what kind of scriptures shaped Vedantic thought... read up on those before coming into public debate.