He believes that the people who say the city is boring are boring.
"Our problem is 'what are we going to do tonight,'" states Maxim, referring to the number of events and activities that he has going on in his life every night.
Farmer's markets are an example of something that Maxim believes adds vibrancy to Calgary.
"If you have it, they will come," repeats Maxim.
"We made huge mistakes as a city when we grew out," laments Frisch.
He agreed with me that there is no character in homes and that people don't really want to live in a beige house.
Choices that were made in the 1980s and 1990s have led to this, Frisch points out.
"We need to actually almost need to mandate some diversity," says Frisch, referring to more mixed use options and maybe, just maybe, some more colour.