01/20/2013 09:01 EST | Updated 03/22/2013 05:12 EDT

Liberal leadership candidates define positions in first debate

Nine candidates vying for the leadership of the Liberal Party participated in the first of five debates held in Vancouver on Sunday.

The nine candidates running for the party's top job are MPs Marc Garneau, Joyce Murray and Justin Trudeau, former MPs Martin Cauchon and Martha Hall Findlay, lawyers David Bertschi, Deborah Coyne and George Takach, and Karen McCrimmon, a retired Lieutenant Colonel.

The debate kicked-off with opening statements from each candidate. Lawyer George Takach described himself as the son of Hungarian refugees and said he was in favour of a digital bill of rights and putting an end to the "wasteful prohibition on marijuana."

Deborah Coyne laid out her vision for "one Canada for all Canadians," while former cabinet minister Martin Cauchon said he will "roll up his sleeves" to rebuild the party because Canadians are looking for "a real alternative."

Lawyer David Bertschi said he knocked on 30,000 doors when he ran and lost for the Liberals in Ottawa-Orleans in 2011 but ran out of time when he began to tell Liberal supporters why he is running for the party's top job.

Quebec MP and former astronaut Marc Garneau said there is no doubt that this leadership contest has to be about "ideas" and told Canadians they must challenge the candidates to do so.

Vancouver MP Joyce Murray said her priorities are to rebuild the party and ensure that Stephen Harper's Conservatives don't win the next federal election but also ran out of time.

Frontrunner Justin Trudeau said he learned a thing or two by running in the Montreal riding of Papineau, namely that Canada's middle class is suffering and that Canadians are unsure that their kids will have more opportunities in the future than they had themselves.

Karen McCrimmon, a retired Lieutenant Colonel, talked about leadership. She said Canadians want a party they can trust and the party can do that by acting on what they say. "I served Canadians before and am offering to serve you once again," said McCrimmon.

Former MP Martha Hall Findlay, who ran for the Liberal leadership in 2006, said the party can't keep doing the same thing over and over while expecting the same results. There is "no silver bullet," Findlay said.

Ending aboriginal poverty

Opening statements were followed by a question-and-answer session. Randy Boissonnault, the moderator, asked the candidates what they would propose to improve the relationship and close the gap in living standards experienced by Aboriginal people.

Garneau said the Idle No More movement is sending a very clear message to government, that it's not listening. "We have to begin to listen, Paul Martin tried to do that with the Kelowna accord. Stephen Harper threw it in the garbage. But in 2008, [Harper] said we will have a new beginning. There has not been a new beginning." Garneau said if elected Liberal leader, he would sit down and consult with First Nations.

Both Coyne and Findlay said they would eliminate the Indian Act, with Findlay making the point that both the Opposition New Democrats and Conservatives are to blame for where things stand today.

Electoral cooperation

The candidates took questions from supporters in the crowd in groups of three. The questions ranged from electoral cooperation to social housing and the environment.

Coyne, Cauchon and Findlay were asked how the Liberals could cooperate with the Greens and NDP in 2015 — an idea NDP MP Nathan Cullen took a lot of heat for when he made the proposal while running for the leadership of the New Democrats last year. Coyne and Findlay made it clear they would only run Liberal candidates in the next federal election while Cauchon left the door open saying "let the people decide."

In this race, an idea has been put forward by Murray to avoid splitting the vote. The Vancouver MP believes in one-time cooperation with the Greens and NDP in the ridings where Conservatives won with under 50 per cent of the vote in the last federal election.

A testy exchange came when McCrimmon, Trudeau, and Murray were asked whether they would commit to replacing the first-past-the-post electoral system with one that provides better representation of the voting preferences of Canadians.

Trudeau said a preferential voting system, which the party adopted in the last biennial convention, would "change the tone" of politics. Murray said she remains committed to changing the current system by way of electoral cooperation — an idea the Quebec MP challenged.

According to Trudeau, Murray's electoral cooperation plan would blur the lines between what the values extolled by Liberals and the NDP saying he wasn't ready to give up his Liberal values. Murray fired back saying, "if you want to replace Stephen Harper, where's your plan?"

McCrimmon said she would give Canadians the choice by way of petition.

More to come.

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