05/23/2013 04:00 EDT | Updated 07/22/2013 05:12 EDT

Raed Jaser And Chiheb Esseghaier: VIA Terror Suspects To Appear In Court This Morning

TORONTO - A man charged in an alleged plot to attack a Via Rail passenger train says he wants to be represented by a lawyer who agrees the Qu'ran should be used as a "reference" in his case.

Chiheb Esseghaier appeared in a Toronto court by video link from jail Thursday morning and said he has made an application for representation by legal aid, but is seeking a lawyer who can co-operate with his need to use the Muslim religious text in his defence.

"I am agreed to have a lawyer, no problem," said the 30-year-old Montreal man, who appeared wearing an orange prison jumpsuit.

"But I wish this lawyer can co-operate with me, because I need the holy book as reference for my judgment. I don’t want a book written by humans," he said.

He told court during an earlier appearance he does not recognize the authority of the secular Criminal Code.

Both Esseghaier and 35-year-old Raed Jaser of Toronto are charged with conspiracy to murder for the benefit of a terrorist group, participating in a terrorist group and conspiring to interfere with transportation facilities for the benefit of a terrorist group. Esseghaier faces an additional count of participating in a terrorist group.

The RCMP has called the case the first known alleged plot in Canada directed by al-Qaida. Police have alleged the suspects were conspiring to derail a passenger train.

The justice of the peace told Esseghaier he would have to discuss his need to use the Qu'ran with his lawyer once one has been assigned.

He was scheduled to return to court June 3 to provide an update on his legal aid request.

Jaser also appeared by video link and was scheduled for another court appearance on June 25 as his case goes through the disclosure process.

One of his lawyers, Brydie Bethell, said outside court that she has not heard Jaser making similar remarks about the legitimacy of Canada's criminal laws.

"The client has not made any comment like that to me," she said.

Bethell said Jaser "denies all of the allegations against him" and said he is stressed but "considering the circumstances he's doing OK."

Note to readers: This is a corrected story. An earlier version indicated the allegations specified a plot involving a bomb, but police have not provided such specific details of the alleged plot.

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