10/15/2013 03:15 EDT | Updated 01/23/2014 06:58 EST

Tarek Loubani and John Greyson recount Egypt ordeal

Filmmaker John Greyson and doctor Tarek Loubani share firsthand accounts of their seven-week detention without charges in Egypt, saying that the massacre they witnessed — not their jail time — was the worst part. 

The two also respond to critics calling them grand-standers or trouble-seekers, describe the conditions of their jail in Tora, and explain why they're speaking out now instead of withdrawing to recover. 

Listen to the two speak to Jian Ghomeshi on CBC's Q.