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06/27/2018 08:19 EDT | Updated 06/27/2018 08:19 EDT

RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki Skeptical Force Will Achieve Gender Equity

Brenda Lucki is being cross-examined at the national MMIW inquiry.

New RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki appears at a House of Commons Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security in Ottawa on May 7, 2018.
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New RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki appears at a House of Commons Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security in Ottawa on May 7, 2018.

REGINA — The head of the RCMP says she doesn't think the force will get to 50 per cent gender equity.

Commissioner Brenda Lucki said the fact that Mounties mainly police rural areas makes it difficult for some women.

"The RCMP is primarily rural police so it's very difficult,'' Lucki said while being cross-examined at the national inquiry into missing and murdered Indigenous women in Regina on Tuesday.

"It's difficult if you are mobile and you're leaving your family structure behind.''

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During 2016-2017, slightly more than one in five RCMP regular members were women, and the force hired 22 per cent women over that period.

Over the same time, the Toronto Police Service hired 48 per cent women.

Lucki said comparing Toronto police to the RCMP isn't fair.

"You're dealing with an urban environment where you're primarily recruiting in an urban area. There's no mobility concerns as far as people being able to stay their entire career in Toronto,'' Lucki said.

"The RCMP is primarily rural police, so it's very difficult.''

Commissioner's explanation called 'utter nonsense'

Beth Symes, who acts as council for Pauktuutit and four other Inuit organizations, questioned Lucki during cross-examination.

Symes said it is "utter nonsense'' to brush off the comparison between RCMP hiring practices and those of the Toronto police.

"There are lots of Canadians and women that are quite prepared to work and do a pretty exciting job outside of Toronto and other major centres,'' she said.

Symes said it would be wrong if the RCMP does not achieve full gender equity.

"It is essential that the number of women in the RCMP as regular members has got to equal the population,'' Symes said.

"She (Lucki) is going to have to change how she does policing in order to achieve that. But to say that we're stuck at 22 per cent is just a no go.''

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Lucki said in a perfect world the RCMP would be more diverse in each of its detachments.

She added you can never go wrong with having a more diverse organization.

"We need to be representative of the people we serve so in the North, the population is Indigenous so we need to be representative of that population,'' Lucki said.

Symes said the RCMP needs to rethink its recruiting approach from top to bottom. Someone who is six feet four and 200 pounds isn't the only candidate for the job anymore.

She added that women do policing differently and generally more successfully.