04/06/2019 08:04 EDT | Updated 04/06/2019 08:04 EDT

'Follow-Up' Podcast: Inside The Liberal Party Battle Royal

What led Liberal MPs to finally call for the ouster of their colleagues?

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks at a caucus meeting on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on April 2, 2019.

OTTAWA Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott are still competing with unnamed anonymous government sources to craft the ending of their storylines as Liberal MPs.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau booted his former star cabinet ministers Tuesday — after regional caucus chairs met to say their members had enough of a saga that has overtaken the party's agenda.

Kicking them out was "the only decision" that could be taken, said Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett on the latest episode of "Follow-Up".

"You'd have to be as dull as dull gets to not understand the view of caucus," offered Liberal MP John McKay. "...Did it do political damage? It did, and it has."

In the podcast, host Althia Raj sits down with Bennett and McKay, two MPs who've seen their share of Liberal infighting as elected representatives since 1997. They share their insights on what went on within the Liberal caucus and what they feel really happened.

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Detailed show notes:

  • (5:47) Did the prime minister make the right call

  • (7:31) Why they think Jane Philpott quit

  • (8:56) "You'd have to be as dull as dull gets to not understand the view of caucus"

  • (10:04) Liberal MPs hurt at suggestion they were not ethical

  • (12:23) Bennett: it was "legitimate" for PMO to ask Wilson-Raybould to consider second opinion

  • (15:31) Who should pay for a possible SNC-Lavalin conviction

  • (16:48) Was Wilson-Raybould's call with Wernick scripted?

  • (18:13) Daughters of the Vote delegates share their take on the caucus expulsions

  • (22:07) What to make of allegations Wilson-Raybould had a list of demands

  • (25:44) What price will Liberal MPs pay the price at the polls?

  • (27:45) Can the prime minister be trusted?

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