Bloc And Parti Quebecois May Be Diminished, But Never Rule Out Separatist Fervour In Canada

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The Huffington Post Canada   First Posted: 07/11/11 07:32 AM ET Updated: 09/10/11 06:12 AM ET

With the near-annihilation of the Bloc Québecois in May's federal election and the recent implosion of the Parti Québecois, one could be forgiven for assuming separatist sentiment is on the wane in Canada.

Yet the election to Parliament of a one-time Newfoundland separatist reminds us of how Quebec has never had a monopoly on secessionist desires. In 2008, as editor of the St. John's newspaper The Independent, Ryan Cleary extolled the potential virtues of an independent Newfoundland and Labrador: "We could even declare this place a tax-free zone like the Cayman Islands. We could do whatever the heck we want," he wrote.

The Rock has yet to become Caymans North, and as an NDP MP for St. John's South-Mount Pearl, Cleary's tune has changed: He recently assured Maclean's that separation is "not what people want, and that's not what I want."

Still, it takes only one unpopular piece of legislation to set provincial separatists off. From sea to sea, there may be many more than two solitudes in our home and native land.

Separation movements, in fact, are as old as Canada itself. Just after Nova Scotia became one of Canada's four founding provinces in 1867, it elected the political wing of its Anti-Confederation League to form a provincial government. The party also won 18 of Nova Scotia's 19 seats in the House of Commons. Leader Joseph Howe tried to get Confederation repealed, setting up John A. Macdonald as the first of a long line of Canadian prime ministers who scrambled to dampen separatist fervour. Macdonald travelled to Nova Scotia to help hammer out a better financial deal, and Howe, sensing he couldn't beat the ruling Conservatives, joined them, accepting a post in Macdonald's cabinet in 1869.

In New Brunswick, anti-confederate candidates won five of 15 seats in the 1867 election, but they were in no position to separate the province. Like Howe before him, their leader, Albert J. Smith, eventually became part of the federal cabinet. About 140 years after the horse left, however, the province is now trying to lock the barn door: New Brunswick recently filed a legal brief claiming "Imperial officials" from Britain blackmailed it into joining Confederation by threatening to take away military protection and severing trade ties to the United States. They're seeking, along with the western provinces and Quebec, to stop Ottawa from establishing a national securities regulator, claiming centralization of power has already gone too far.

Four years after joining Confederation in 1871, British Columbia threatened to secede, fed up by delays in the construction of the Intercontinental Railway. At the time, its heavy debt load prevented it from achieving independence.

Today, the province's small but plucky Cascadia movement, which harkens back to Thomas Jefferson's 1803 concept of a "Republic of the Pacific," seeks amalgamation with the states of Washington and Oregon. The proposed political and economic union would be based on shared resources, values and traits.

British Columbia has also been courted by independence movements in other western provinces. In 1980, Richard Collver, formerly a popular leader of Saskatchewan's Progressive Conservatives, founded the Unionest Party (its name a better contraction of "best union" than "Bunion") and fought for B.C., Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Alberta to break off from Canada and join the United States. His party didn't last. By 1981, he had moved to a ranch in Arizona and later told The Globe and Mail, "I think I had six supporters in Canada altogether, and five of them were family members."

Western separatist sentiments were fuelled in the early 1980s by the Trudeau government's plan to provide low-cost energy across Canada through revenue-sharing, a highly unpopular policy in Alberta. In 1982, the Western Canada Concept party, which promoted independence for Western Canada, including the territories, managed to get one of its candidates elected in Alberta. Puffed up by his win, MPP Gordon Kesler said of premier Peter Lougheed, "I hope he has the courage to call an election, because we're gonna lick him." Less than a year later, Kesler changed ridings and lost his seat.

The Western Independence Party spun off from the WCC in 1987; it continues to field candidates in provincial elections, dedicated to independence and the "sacred concept" of private property.

Western separatism survives, but as a much more fragmented movement than Quebec separatism -- small groups keep spinning off from larger parties, such as the Separation Party of Alberta (sample slogan: "Life in Alberta will be a SPA when we get rid of Ottawa"). All have failed to capture the popular imagination, especially since Stephen Harper's election as prime minister.

Separatist sentiment grew in Newfoundland during the early 1980s as well, albeit in response to a recession. Cartoonist Wallace Ryan devised his "Free Nfld" design, which is still popular on T-shirts, in 1982; the following year, the Party for an Independent Newfoundland was founded.

But only in the early 2000s did separatism make much of a splash in the province. In 2004, then-premier Danny Williams ordered all Canadian flags taken down from the provincial legislature in protest of the federal government's supposed seizure of offshore oil and gas revenue. In 2009, Liberal senator George Baker, angered at the prospect of large transfer payments to the federal government, told a St. John's radio station, "People will soon be advocating ... that we can't remain in the Confederation in which we're discriminated against and not respected."

He sparked a miniature firestorm in the media. Perhaps he felt the next step would be a revival of Newfoundland's "Anti-Confederation Song," an 1869 ditty that warned, "Come near at your peril, Canadian Wolf!"

In contrast to all of this separatist sabre-rattling, there has been at least one serious modern movement for annexation, and an intriguing one at that.

The Turks and Caicos Islands, a British overseas territory in the West Indies, sent a delegation to Canada in 1987 to propose becoming the 11th province. The Mulroney government ruled that there wouldn't be much economic or social benefit for Canadians, but as recently as 2004, the islands' Chief Minister was still discussing the possibility of a merger.

Any prospective separatists would do well to remember that our nation has its attractions, even for those living in an idyllic archipelago with fantastic weather all year round and no income tax (somewhat like the Cayman Islands). Through the snow, the grass is always greener.

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With the near-annihilation of the Bloc Québecois in May's federal election and the recent implosion of the Parti Québecois, one could be forgiven for assuming separatist sentiment is on the wane in ...
With the near-annihilation of the Bloc Québecois in May's federal election and the recent implosion of the Parti Québecois, one could be forgiven for assuming separatist sentiment is on the wane in ...
 
 
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10:13 PM on 07/11/2011
What a colossal waste of time. We're heading for a major environmental crisis and people want to argue about separation. God there are some spoiled people in this country.
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rickthaluddite
What noisy cats are we
10:49 PM on 07/11/2011
That's true, but Dear Leader doesn't want to admit it.
07:32 PM on 07/11/2011
How much stronger would Canada be without these Parasite Provinces ?
05:25 PM on 07/11/2011
Given how much more we pay in taxes than receive in services I'm surprised Ontario doesn't have more of a separatist movement. Though with the continued mistreatment of urban centres in the entire country one could grow.
I had a teacher once who made an interesting point about how our continent was divided "wrong." That rather then 3 countries going east to west it should have 3 north to south.
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Vere15
Vero nihil verious (nothing truer than truth)
08:27 PM on 07/11/2011
Chile, Argentina and Brazil?
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canadianperspective
My micro-bio is empty.Big wup.Wanna fide aboud id?
03:17 PM on 07/11/2011
What I find odd is that the article talks at length about separatist movements mostly outside of Quebec, yet, a sizeable portion of posts talk about Quebec separation. In Newfoundland, these talks date back to as recently as 2008! I hear nobody posting comment about people from Newfoundland and how they should leave is if they are not happy.

When the Royals came to Quebec, there were some who expressed disagreement with the institution itself, calling it archaic. The replies were "if you're not happy, just leave the country". However, when the Royals left Quebec and went on to visit PEI, NWT, Alberta, there were also articles about the Royal visit and the were people voicing their disagreement with the monarchy. Yet, I saw no disparaging comment, no one was told to leave the country.

Nice double standard.
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Mastiff
Via ovicipitum dura est.
05:55 PM on 07/11/2011
The article talks at length about separatist movements in the 1800s. No, people don't get too perturbed by them, just like few people still complain about horse-drawn carriages pooping on the roads. It's not really an issue.

The average lifespan of the non-Quebecois groups advocating sepration in the last century is slightly shorter than the lifespan of a fruit fly. Again, not really on the top of people's "threat to Canada" list.

None of the groups mentioned have had a federal opposition party in the last twenty years whose primary mandate is to separate from the rest of Canada.

"Double standard" implies that Newfoundland's threats on par with Quebec's. I'd like to hear your case on that.
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canadianperspective
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08:18 PM on 07/12/2011
Mastiff, I read the article and agree with what you say. My only point was to illustrate the contrast on some of the comments I've read regard anti-monarchy sentiment. Not all anti-monarchists in Quebec are necessarily separatists that want to break up the country. Actually, a few years ago, it was John Manley of the Liberals who wanted to punt the monarchy.
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Steve Karmazenuk
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01:26 PM on 07/11/2011
By the way: the older he gets? The more Gilles Duceppe looks like Harpo Marx.
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AmigaMan
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12:54 PM on 07/11/2011
Separation of Québec from Canada is inevitable IMO. Just study world history and see how many countries have broken up over language/ethnic reasons.
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Steve Karmazenuk
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01:33 PM on 07/11/2011
Just study history and see how consistently Quebec separatists have failed.
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AmigaMan
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02:33 PM on 07/11/2011
Do you think I don't know that? :/

I'm afraid the world record doesn't speak well for Canada to stay united unless something is done to drastically alter the political situation and bring Québec into the Canadian constitution. Eventually the country will split on this issue.
12:31 PM on 07/11/2011
It never ceases to amaze me how many Canadians don't realize how great this country is. Wanting to separate from the best country on earth (despite Harper's attempts at changing this) is the most narrow and shortsighted decision any real Canadian could make. What could one replace the best with?
12:49 PM on 07/11/2011
That is the romantic notion that I have held and peddled all my life up until last Spring.

I am sixty years old now and reluctantly have come to realize that Canada has changed to the point where the fault line between it and Québec can no longer be glossed over.

How we got there is not that relevant; the fact that we are where we are is what is important.
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Sam Huston
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01:57 PM on 07/11/2011
Your obsession with Prime Minister Harper is astounding. If you can’t live with the results of democratic election maybe you should leave Canada to live in Venezuela or some other socialist paradise.
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MLukhman
Once you start down the dark path, forever will it
04:15 PM on 07/11/2011
It 51% of the people vote for him?
10:39 AM on 07/12/2011
1) My family from both sides has been in Canada for over 300 years, so I think I bring some perspective to the values of this country.
2) Harper represents about 40% of Canadians, so the majority of us did not want him as PM, maybe you can respect the majority view
3) Obviously your reading capabilities are somewhat limited. You don't seem to be able to understand my text "the best country on earth" when I referred to Canada.
4) I suggest you move to the USA, maybe it will suit you better.
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Mastiff
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11:49 AM on 07/11/2011
Personally, I don't want to see Quebec leave. I like to joke about the door hitting their @ss on the way out every time the separation debate comes up, but the fact is I do think the rest of the country benefits culturally from having Quebec as part of the country.

That said, I am curious how separatists plan to cover the equalization payment gap if they leave. Quebec's budget for 2011-12 is $69.1 billion. Quebec's equalization payments will be $7.8 billion for 2011-2012.

Is there a plan for this discrepancy? I am honestly curious about the answer.
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valar84
12:23 PM on 07/11/2011
Legault had released the budget for the year one of a sovereign Québec a few years back.

Québec's budget may be 69 billion, but you also have to add the part of federal revenues from Québec, that's maybe another 45-50 billions. So that's a total of nearly 120 billions of revenues, not just 69 billions. Québec may lose some amount of money through independence with the loss of equalization, even if some might be compensated by ending the duplication of services by both federal and provincial governments, but it's not an insurmountable problem, nor is it a price most sovereignists are unwilling to pay.
12:27 PM on 07/11/2011
Yeah? Are you going to pay your share of the national debt when you leave? Didn't think so...
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Mastiff
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06:05 PM on 07/11/2011
Thanks. Can you please send me a link, or provide more details so I can hunt it down myself?

I understand what you're saying about eliminating duplication of services between Federal and Quebecois governments saving some money, but that doesn't take into consideration that there are some areas that will need to be created, such as Defense or Treasury, does it?
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Jay from Ottawa
sovereignty sale, 1.3T OBO
12:24 PM on 07/11/2011
I think it's "freedom first" ... "well figure out the rest later"
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ParliamentHillCatMP
11:03 AM on 07/11/2011
I'd be happy to join a separatist movement-I'd be happy to show Alberta the door, those right wingers are destroying Canada.
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
11:28 AM on 07/11/2011
Funny you should mention Alberta. Back in the twenties and thirties the founder of the Social Credit party ran (and won) on the notion that Alberta should have the right to its own central bank.
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Mastiff
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11:34 AM on 07/11/2011
Smart thinking. Alberta is the province that covers the income shortfalls in Quebec ($7.8 billion), Ontario ($2.2 billion) Manitoba, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia (between $1billion and $1.7 billion each) and PEI ($329 million).

Kick those darn Albertans out and start paying for your own services. That'll show 'em!
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ParliamentHillCatMP
11:58 AM on 07/11/2011
We'll do just fine without them.
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AlisonCarnie
I am unique ... just like everyone else
10:55 AM on 07/11/2011
After living for twelve years in Chicago, two in Atlanta, six in California and three in New York ... I am back in one of the greatest countries in the world. In my opinion, the greatest.

These folks want to leave Canada? They don't like this stunning, elegant, classy spot??

I will drive they there myself!!!
09:24 AM on 07/11/2011
"How about we declare Canada indivisibl­e by Act of Parliament­"......

No thanks. Why don't we DECLARE OUR INDEPENDENCE FROM BRITAIN and start our own damn country.

Now that's getting us somewhere.
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bbertaud
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10:20 AM on 07/11/2011
Ignorance is bold....
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AmigaMan
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12:41 PM on 07/11/2011
I think he means declaring Canada as a republic and get rid of the British monarchy as the head of state.
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01:09 PM on 07/11/2011
Trolls are blunt; don't feed 'em.
10:44 AM on 07/11/2011
"independance from Britain"

What is it that we depend on from Britain?

Ignorance is in our face in all caps.
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Steve Karmazenuk
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09:13 AM on 07/11/2011
How about we declare Canada indivisible by Act of Parliament, pass an anti-Treason law and put the seppies in prison for life?

Seems to me that's the easiest way to deal with this garbage. I'm sick of what the separatists in Quebec have done to my Province, the sectarianism and the ethnocentric mentality.

What's the point of having a conservative majority if we don't have a little heavy-handed authoritarian patriotism?
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canadianperspective
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01:29 PM on 07/12/2011
I agree on most of what you suggest, and I will comment on that.

I too am sick of the ethnocentric mentality prevailing in my Province. It has gradually cut us off from the ROC (although MacLean's has done it's fair share of bashing).

And although I am not always in agreement with the policies of the Harper government, I don't mind a pendulum swing to the right. It allows me to argue against the too often left-leaning cry babies who want more social programs but complain when their taxes go up. Everything is not free. Everything usually has a cost.
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CommonWealth-SinglePayer
Walk on the Right, VOTE on the LEFT
08:47 AM on 07/11/2011
No more fake borders on Turtle island,

How arrogant to think the French or English have been here so long they deserve their own land.

Find real issues to feed a Political Party, not divide and conquer.
10:52 AM on 07/11/2011
We came, we took it. What part don't you get?
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CommonWealth-SinglePayer
Walk on the Right, VOTE on the LEFT
05:48 AM on 07/22/2011
next frat boy please
08:44 AM on 07/11/2011
the threat of separation always raises its head in troubled times ------

it is a bargaining chip.---right across the nation
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gx5000
Life's too short, be happy..
12:36 PM on 07/11/2011
Same thing happens in marriages, well some I'm told...
07:50 AM on 07/11/2011
I wish the provinces would separate from the CORRUPT Federal Government.
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subinense
"We are star stuff" Carl Sagan
08:07 AM on 07/11/2011
And I wish TomasJefferson would separate from HuffPost, but hey, life ain't perfect !
08:45 AM on 07/11/2011
he's a plant, figuratively and literally.
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ParliamentHillCatMP
01:51 AM on 07/12/2011
Good one..LOL!