Jim Karygiannis, Liberal Multiculturalism Critic, Accused Of Racial Slur

Karygiannis

First Posted: 08/26/11 07:24 PM ET Updated: 10/26/11 06:12 AM ET

OTTAWA — A former Conservative candidate says his Liberal opponent — the party’s multiculturalism critic — told him Friday he was pleased he learned to write in English.

The Taiwanese Canadian Association of Toronto’s Harry Tsai told The Huffington Post Canada that Liberal MP Jim Karygiannis called him Friday afternoon to tell him that he had seen a press release from his organization calling for Interim Liberal leader Bob Rae to fire him from his critic’s post.

“I don’t think he was very pleased,” Tsai said. “(Karygiannis) said, ‘ I don’t care what you guys write. It won’t affect me. And I’m glad you can write.’ He kept saying, ‘I’m glad you can write English,’” Tsai said.

Karygiannis told Huff Post Canada he never told Tsai he was glad he could write in English.

“Aboslutely not,” he said. “No. no. no. I called him to say, I want to thank him for doing it (writing a letter)…I wanted to find out whether he did it or not,” Karygiannis said.

Karygiannis, the MP for the Ontario riding of Scarborough-Agincourt, and Tsai, know each other well. Tsai was the Conservative candidate who went head to head with the Liberal incumbent during the last federal election in May.

The Taiwanese Canadian Association of Toronto was one of a handful of organizations to write to Rae and request Karygiannis’ removal.

Tsai said a letter, signed by the group’s public affairs division earlier this week, pointed out a few reasons why Karygiannis does not deserve to be the Liberal’s multiculturalism critic.

“He has one of the worse attendance records so we do not believe that he represents us in the House of Commons. And also from his past statements, the way he has treated the Macedonians and the Turkish community…violates the nature of multiculturalism,” Tsai said.

He denied having any personal reasons for writing the letter. He said his group was prompted to write a press release this week because Karygiannis had organized a series of meetings with 19 community and stakeholder groups in Ottawa this weekend.

Karygiannis said the groups who wrote to Rae all want him gone for personal reasons.

“From what I understand they are Turks and, of course, because I am Greek, they don’t like it. Two, the United Macedonian Diaspora, because they got their problems with the Greeks and Harry, because Harry lost, because he got his butt kicked. So they think it will be a feather in their cap if I am removed,” Karygiannis said.

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ekwati
Words matter, as does reality!
10:02 PM on 08/28/2011
Ah, what's the point? Have a good night, morally wealthy dad.
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
05:40 PM on 08/28/2011
Heather helping friends...

This is a non-story...

Tony had disappeared off the screens.

Is HP, sun lite?
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DidiM
Human 'being'
02:27 PM on 08/28/2011
The Liberals accusing anyone of discrimination and bias is the typical mind numbing Fiberal, 'Pot calling the kettle black." How dare any of these "Pretend Liberals", throw accusations of discrimination against anyone, when their decades long promotion and very verbal endorsement of the "illegal, ethnic cleansing language laws", designed specifically to create: a 'pur laines quebecois (pure race french only) Province of Quebeck, all done against our will, without our consent and a gross violation of our pretty much all our Constitutional laws of equality! Wow!
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PortlandZoo
Wait... what?
12:02 PM on 08/30/2011
might want to actually read the article. And calm down.
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lcelidon
roaring mouth
11:51 PM on 08/27/2011
GOP tide coming to Canada soon......be very afraid.
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GeoToronto
Nik Nak Paddy Wak, Still Ridin' Caddy-Laks
06:24 PM on 08/27/2011
This story is a complete and utter waste of time.
Come on HP Canada, you can do better than this.
05:00 PM on 08/27/2011
News Flash >

"Multiculturalism is an absolute failure because of Islam" quote -

dozen European Leaders in the last 12 months
canuckjen
A life that is lived is a life of evolution.
07:08 PM on 08/27/2011
LMAO

News Flash >

"candan is a complete waste of space" quote -
dozen Huff Post posters in the last 12 months
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
03:54 PM on 08/27/2011
What do you call an independent who voted for Obama in 2008 but isn't voting for him 2012?
A racist.
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ekwati
Words matter, as does reality!
12:57 PM on 08/28/2011
Pure illogic, Stan. What do you call the Blacks who voted for Obama in 2008 and are now disenchanted as they realize that a White president would actually be better suited to deal with "Black issues" than Obama ever could be (since Obama must go the extra mile to be seen as not being Black-centric, but rather, RIGHTLY, as being the President of ALL Americans), and then either does not vote for Obama in 2012 or only votes for him because not too many sane independent people want to vote against their own interests by voting for the GOTP? A racist?

Sorry CanadaStan, not much logic there... and sorry for going all John Kerry on you.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
04:56 PM on 08/28/2011
It's a joke, son!
But that's how liberals think...

What's the definition of a racist?
Someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.
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hollace
02:22 PM on 08/27/2011
....he thinks he's an Amerikan.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
03:55 PM on 08/27/2011
Bigot.
Don't get it, right?
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RhysJ W
For the Future, Against the Present.
11:22 AM on 08/27/2011
Its time for another edition of "Is it Racist"? ... no, not really.
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richjustdonothaveenough
To a 3rd world America
10:43 AM on 08/27/2011
There are still many whose language betrays their mindset.
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Greenkid
10:18 AM on 08/27/2011
And the most frivolous 'news story' of the daaaaaay IS!

THIS ONE!
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Skookum1
shooting fish in a barrel is sure relaxing
09:57 AM on 08/27/2011
Those who need to be offended will always find a way to be offended. Those who can make political capital by posturing about being offended, when no offence was meant, will do so vociferously and loudly. Because they have nothing else to say.

As for accusing a Greek of racism against Turks, that's a stretch. Evidently Mr Tsai doesn't know much about Balkan history and culture. Other than the centuries of oppression of Greeks under the Ottoman Empire and all the internecine conflicts in the region since that empire dissolved (it's been anything but a one-way street)....another reality so far as "white" culture goes is that until 50 years ago or so, GREEKS weren't really considered "white" by Northern Europeans and were part of the group considered "wogs" (along with Southern Italians, Yugoslavs and Spaniards). The view of people of European lineage as all "white, therefore racist" is utterly Asian in perspective and winds up being insensitive in cases like this.

It's Mr Tsai who should apologize, not Mr Karygiannis. That he could twist an intended compliment into a perceived insult is a mark of cultural insecurity and also personal lack of confidence; or else just more political tub-thumping based on a one-sided version of what "racism" is. It's all about political expediency in this case, that much is obvious. Ben g told you write well, and twisting that into a complaint about racism - that's just sick, and stupid.
01:17 PM on 08/27/2011
So it's understandable for a Greek to be racist against the Turks because of history? First of all, there is not even a historical reason, Greeks were one of the most priviliged groups in the Ottoman Empire, Turks themselves were more oppressed.
Secondly, then should it go both ways? Then it should be OK for Turks to be suspicious of Greeks, because of what has happened in Western Anatolia, Crete, Cyprus, still goes on in Western Thrace. By that logic, Persians too should have grudge against the Greeks because of Alexander? These are no real excuses, therefore this dude's hate against all these ethnic groups- Turks, Macedonians, Jews, and all others is unbased, not understandable and makes him unfit for his role.
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Skookum1
shooting fish in a barrel is sure relaxing
07:20 PM on 08/27/2011
I did not say nor intend what you have interpreted in my words. I meant that sensitivities about race and culture are DEEP in the Balkans and yes, are verry complex. I'm well aware that the Hellenic milliyet, like the other non-Islamic milliyets (milliyetler in Turkish?), enjoyed priviliges and special rights over ordinary Turks, and were instrumental, like the Armenians and Bulgarians and others, in the administration of the Ottoman Empire; it's why I used the words "Ottoman Empire" instead of "Turkish Empire". I did not mean in any way that people such as Mr Karygiannis either have, or have a right to, any sense of racism against Turks, nor vice versa. I meant that given the complexities of the Balkan equation, historically and currently, to claim someone is racist apparently simply BECAUSE THEY ARE OF GREEK ANCESTRY, is a suspect claim to make, and unfounded. Mr Karygiannis is CANADIAN. Was a time in this country when the whole point was to bury the hatchet and not import the old hatreds and bigotries from the old countries, to set all that aside.
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Skookum1
shooting fish in a barrel is sure relaxing
07:22 PM on 08/27/2011
Many "new Canadians", waving multiculturalism as their flag, claim THAT is what multiculturalism is supposed to JUSTIFY, as with Mr Tsai's wanton slur against Mr Karygiannis for not paying him a compliment in terms that were immune from being asserted as being (when they were not) blatantly racist. Looking for fault in others and looking for ways to complain about discrimination - THAT seems to be, to those of us fully (and proudly) assimilated, seems to be all that people more conscious of their old-world identities and nurtured ancestral hostilities think multiculturalism is supposed to mean, or try to MAKE it mean.

Your reading into my words things that were not meant is a case in point...

Giving someone the benefit of the doubt - and especially not LOOKING for fault, used to be the Canadian norm. Now it seems that people who still have old axes to grind want everyone to walk on THEIR broken glass.

Those that complain that their ethnic sensitivities aren't being pandered too sufficiently by those who have none themselves is what's racist in this equation, i.e. Mr Tsai and those others attacking Mr Karygiannis....

And as far as Alexander goes, the image of him in Persian and Afghan and Indian history is that of a brutal conquerer and genocidist....and he was Macedonian, not Greek, though adopted Greek culture and spread it to the world because HE himself was not a racist, in any way.
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SeanMartin
Everything in moderation.
09:55 AM on 08/27/2011
Hmm. Considering the source (a "former candidate"?), I wonder just how seriously I should take this. Is there an election coming up I dont know about?

And hey! Look! I wrote in English!
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toofarleft4thisworld
the Lord giveth; the Landlord taketh away
08:38 AM on 08/27/2011
in all fairness Karygi(anus) (sic) is only a liberal in name. we have a few of these faux liberals in the suburbs. it's kind of like your southern democrats. he's also a boor.
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richjustdonothaveenough
To a 3rd world America
10:44 AM on 08/27/2011
The liberal party in Canada is not liberal, it is more moderate.

NDP and Green are the true progressives.
06:37 PM on 08/27/2011
No the NDP and Green would bankrupt Canada faster then a drunk at a Beer store
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Valerie Keefe
left-wing euro-tory trans lesbian
08:33 AM on 08/27/2011
Wow an unsubstantiated allegation... dynamite!