Ed Clark, TD Bank CEO, Warns Canada Faces Fiscal Crisis Similar To U.S., Europe

Ed Clark Td Bank Canada Fiscal Crisis

The Huffington Post Canada   First Posted: 10/20/11 02:13 PM ET Updated: 10/20/11 02:13 PM ET

The head of one of Canada's largest banks is warning that the country is facing a financial crisis of similar proportions to those seen in the U.S. and Europe -- but Canada is suffering from a "cone of silence" around its long-term problems.

Ed Clark, CEO of TD Bank, also encouraged the Occupy movement to "stick to [their] guns" and said it's reasonable that the movement's demands are vague.

Speaking at the Ivey Business Leader Award Dinner in Toronto Wednesday night, Clark said Canada, like other Western countries, faces a crisis created by slow growth and changing demographics.

As the population ages, demand for government services will grow, but slow growth in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis means tax revenue won't keep up with the demand, Clark said.

He suggested Canada could face a "Japan scenario," where low growth keeps interest rates low for a long time, and those low interest rates will mean that retirement pensions won't grow as much as retirees had expected, potentially ruining an entire generation's financial plans.

"We have hardly begun to appreciate the implications of such a state of affairs," he said.

Read the full text of Ed Clark's speech

Clark also said the slow-growth economy is exacerbating income inequality in Canada and elsewhere, but "wedge politics" -- pitting one group against another -- are making it difficult to introduce policies that would address the problem.

"Globalization may make the world better off, and makes those in the western world with highly valued skills better off. But others are falling behind. ... The middle class has shrunk. And the working class struggles. While the highest income earners have become better off," Clark said. "Without fully understanding all the forces at play – people get it. They recognize the prize has just got smaller – and their instinct is to protect their share."

Though the TD Bank chief noted that "this discourse has remained relatively muted in Canada," he warned that the global trends "are putting pressure on societal allocation of resources. And so we should not be complacent nor too reliant on Canadians' natural desire to find consensus."

To that end he urged business leaders and politicians to "stand against divisiveness and political extremes."

Clark had some encouraging words for the Occupy movement. Asked by the Toronto Star what he would tell the protesters, he said: "My main advice is stick to your guns. When people say, 'You don’t have a solution,' say, 'Of course we don't. If there was a solution, don't you think people would be doing it?' To ask the people who occupy Wall Street or Bay Street to have a full answer is absurd. They're doing their job which is to say, 'If you think this [system] is working for everyone, it's not.'"

In his speech, Clark suggested that the Tea Party movement and the Occupy Wall Street movement are two sides of the same coin, reactions to increasingly difficult and unjust economic circumstances.

"Their message is the same -- they don’t like how the world is turning out," Clark said.

Mixed Economic News

Clark's dire warning comes as Canada's economy shows mixed signs of growth. Statscan's leading indicator, released Wednesday, shows Canada's economy steady in the months ahead.

And a report from Credit Suisse shows that Canada has rebounded from the 2008-2009 recession, with wealth levels 3 per cent above where they were in 2007. That’s compared to an 8-per-cent drop in wealth levels in the U.S.

"This reflects the fact that Canada's financial institutions and housing market did not suffer a collapse during the global financial crisis," the report stated.

In U.S. dollar terms, Canada's share of global wealth now amounts to $245,000 per adult, compared to $248,000 per adult in the U.S.

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Despite an increase in full-time employment, losses in construction, transportation, warehousing and natural resources contributed to a decline of 5,500 jobs in August, pushing the unemployment rate up slightly to 7.3 per cent. "Employment growth in Canada has definitely shifted down a gear," says Craig Alexander, chief economist for TD Bank. "I don't think we're in for a string of declines of employment, but if you look at three month moving average for employment in Canada, what you're getting is a softer rate of job creation than you've had earlier in the recovery."
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losingitbigtime
Proud Member of The Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy
10:45 AM on 10/29/2011
What a stark difference between the this Canadian bank CEO and his Wall Street counterparts. Read the full text of the speech. He sees the US's folly in thinking it could cut taxes while waging multiple wars, he believes in universal healthcare, he gets the growing class disparity and is engaged in exploring thoughtful solutions. He and other top TD management management earn a pretty penny, but nowhere near the excesses in corporate America. TD remains extremely strong financially compared to US rivals due to the fact that it did not engage in the practices that led to the Wall Street collapse. It's corporate culture, while not high paying, is progressive. 5 weeks vacation in the first year! A GLBT employee committee and partner benefits. I support OWS and at the same time proud to work for the American subsidiary of this bank under Ed Clark.
11:17 AM on 10/21/2011
Part of what Mr. Clark is saying , is that our aging society will place severe strains on maintaining the level of all of the desireable social programs that we need and expect going forward.
Although much has been discussed about high levels of of government debt, in the US, personal levels are a much bigger problem . Currently personal debt / income levels in the US are about 115%, down from 138% , a few years ago. Contrast that with the Canadian situation, where personal debt / Income levels are now approx. 149 % , higher than a few years ago.
It would seem to me that Canadians need to concentrate on repair of their own personal balance sheet, in coming years. With less demand for housing , in future , do we really think that the crutial element of housing will hold it's present value ? If the answer is no, then it's time to be a little more realistic.
In the present environment, of artificially low interest rates, and prospects of more of the same, in the immediate future, Pension plans, both public and private, face an uphill battle to provide the level of retirement income that we all want for the future.
The Tea party, in the US, and the "Occupy " movement , in 78 countries around the world , are telling us that the system is broken, and the politicians don't have the answers.
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RhysJ W
For the Future, Against the Present.
11:16 AM on 10/21/2011
It kinda looks like those two guys are peeing on the wall in the picture.
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CommonWealth-SinglePayer
Walk on the Right, VOTE on the LEFT
08:16 AM on 10/21/2011
Kinda hopeful that some of the Chattering Classes in Canada are supporting the 99%, in the USA you just get "Let them Eat Cake" type slogans from the wealthy.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
06:49 PM on 10/20/2011
You could appreciate this state of affairs and realize that bank policy in part has put us there. You have been too consumed in quarterly profit. You service charge people to death. You offer nothing in return. If you fore close I feel sorry for those caught but if you go belly up I don't care. You cater to corporate profits. you close your banks and squeeze the middle class. what is your solution to this warning if you are so aware? What measures do you propose to resolve the eventuality of what you fear? Eventually the upper class will have noting because the rest of us wil not be able to support it. Buying will stop. Jobs will be lost and social services, governemtn provided, will increase. You would think that the banks wpould back down but they act as a grim reaper of the economy. If a 71 year old hasn't retired then the fear is there and it is real. God help the 30 year old.
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Jeremyewilliams
Reality is not the GOPs cup of tea!
03:48 PM on 10/20/2011
I'm here in Canada, and haven't been able to find a job in my field (Marine Engineer) since 2007. :(

I have had no choice but to fall back to being a worm digger. I dig the mud flats every tide for blood worms. I have only been doing it for 3 years (I'm 24), and am already having back problems. Gotta love that good ol' Canadian economy.

I see no future here.
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
05:46 PM on 10/20/2011
Did they pass some law that makes you have to work as a worm digger? You've got a degree (doesn't matter in what) so you have a leg up on most people looking for work. Now if only you had an imagination and a modicum of initiative.
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06:32 PM on 10/20/2011
I think he's kidding. The math doesn't add up. He says he's been a Marine Engineer since 2007 and is only 24 now. That would mean graduating with an engineering degree at age 20 after a minimum of a 4 year program.

If he was truly a prodigal son and zoomed through university by age 20, he wouldn't be digging worms. I didn't find it that funny either.
02:18 AM on 10/21/2011
Well, he might have a leg up, but he also could have student loan debt which will bring him down, government lawyers will serve him to pay this debt back. It's still bad in the Canadian economy. In fact it is just a slow progression into a deep recession and depression unless the government wakes up.
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KNW
02:58 AM on 10/21/2011
Go work a camp job in Ft. Mac; if it's good enough for the Newfies, it's good enough for you.
03:45 PM on 10/20/2011
Pander much?
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GeneralDisarray
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02:42 PM on 10/20/2011
Great...............
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gx5000
Life's too short, be happy..
01:55 PM on 10/20/2011
So, it's not that the %1 have been trying to get more out of the economy than it can support...hummm...riiight.
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Blodo
Time to build a better world
02:30 PM on 10/20/2011
Right on.

You might find this interesting.

http://www.livescience.com/16518-5-facts-wealthiest-1-percent.html
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gx5000
Life's too short, be happy..
06:18 PM on 10/20/2011
I wish I could sat that that was a surprise, but it isn't.
I can't complain about my lot, I just fear for our societies in general.