Attawapiskat: Bob Rae Calls For Dramatic Change On Reserves

Attawapiskat Bob Rae

First Posted: 11/30/11 01:53 PM ET Updated: 11/30/11 02:23 PM ET

Liberal interim leader Bob Rae is calling for a revamp of the way Ottawa treats the country’s Aboriginal people.

“We are reaching a crisis point here where we need to understand that things have gone on a certain way and they have to change dramatically, structurally and in very deep ways,” Bob Rae told reporters Wednesday.

“We’ve created now a pattern of dependence and a pattern of not dealing with the underlying issues,” he said.

Despite Northern Ontario’s vast resources, Rae said, Aboriginal communities such as those on the shores of James Bay such as Attawapiskat, are mostly frozen out and do not share the benefits of those developments.

“We don’t have a self-governing agreement which gives real responsibility to the reserves to decide themselves what are the techniques and methods that they want to use to encourage economic development, how are they going to set priorities, but basically we have communities that have no economic base, that have no tax base, that have no revenue base and that rely only on transfers from the federal government in order to make way,” the Liberal interim leader said, stressing that Aboriginal people themselves should make those decisions.

The Conservative government could have avoided the crisis in Attawapiskat and other reserves in similar situations, Rae added, if it had not scrapped the Liberals’ Kelowna accord.

“Six years ago, if the government had agreed to carry out the agreement that had been signed by the provinces and the federal government, the Kelowna accord, we wouldn’t be having this problem, because the investments would have been made. The investments were all provided for in the agreement, in water, in housing, in education and so forth. In other to close to the gaps between what some aboriginal groups are receiving and what the residents in the rest of Canada are receiving.”

Ontario, Rae said, spends an average of $15,000 per high school student, while the feds only pony up $8,000 for similar education on reserves — and the same is true, he said, for other support services such as child welfare.

“Everything is less than what is required, it is not more than what is required. And so Mr. Harper is dreaming in Technicolor if he thinks attacking those of us who believe that more investments are required is going to solve the problem. It isn’t going to solve the problem,” Rae said.

The Prime Minister, he suggested, should also head to Attawapiskat and other communities in similar situations in Northern Ontario.

"This is unfortunately, it is not an exception. And this is something that we all have to recognize. This is not a one-off problem. This is a problem right across the board in Northern Canada," Rae said.

When Harper rose in the House of Commons to apologize for residential schools, he did so in the name of reconciliation, that apology, Rae said, has to be followed up with action.

“It has to be followed up with real commitments and we don’t see those commitments,” he said.

“Attawapiskat is not unique. This is not the only community experiencing severe problems. And if they transfer the funding from other communities instead of Attawapiskat, we haven’t resolved the problem. We are just creating bigger problems.”

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Liberal interim leader Bob Rae is calling for a revamp of the way Ottawa treats the country’s Aboriginal people. “We are reaching a crisis point here where we need to understand that things hav...
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Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
09:53 AM on 12/23/2011
“So the negotiation team has to be to the liking of De Beers or they won't talk to them? Colonialism is alive and well.

“Just what did Ellis do to persuade DeBeers to fork over the funds? Did she have connections or did she work for them sometime in the past? That would be the only way she could have some persuasive powers with them. What did she offer to them so they would pass on the money? Did it go to her or to the People of Kashechewan? What is her relationship to De Beers? Who are her personal contacts within DeBeers who can do favors for her while they work things out the way they want?

So what is it? What is the CEAA process? Did you say that DeBeers paid those they wanted to talk to? Who did they pay - you, Ellis and whoever you selected? Why has the community been left dangling by Indian Affairs who are the fiduciaries? This is a human rights issue which Canada has agreed to uphold.

Read the rest...

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Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
09:51 AM on 12/23/2011
The Chief and Council asked me to help them. So I introduced them to Ellis Kirkland as she knows how to deal with companies like De Beer's. (How’s that?)

”The information on De Beers and the Bushmen I introduced to the
community at a community meeting in April and in May. The articles are all
over Kashechewan. The people can't assimilate this information as yet. But it’s in their minds.

”De Beers refused to advance anymore money to the Band negotiation team until
Ellis forced them to do so due to her ability to make press against them.

”De Beer's is now partially owned by the Botswana Government. They came to
Canada knowing that Canada already put the natives in concentration camps
and they think they can control the natives like they did in Africa.

”Kashechewan controls the access to northern Ontario.

”Indian Affairs split the reserve into two bands on one reserve in the 50's when they where looking for the resources in the north, including the big water issue.

”When the De Beer's thing all started, although they have been in the north
for over 20 years, the president of De Beer's had a meeting in England with
the Minister for Natural Resources Canada and the next week NRCAN was the
lead agency for the federal CEAA process.

”NRCAN was pushing speed and dealing with Attawapiskat only.
Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
09:49 AM on 12/23/2011
Zane knows the area because he’s been going to Kashechewan as a volunteer for a year and half! Hey! This costs money! How can he volunteer to go up there? It’s isolated. There is no road. The only way to get there is to fly or drive on the ice roads in the winter. Airfare costs $400 from Toronto to Timmins return and $900 from Timmins to Kashechewan return. He doesn’t pay for this. “Who does?” we wondered.

We got curious about Zane. After I sent out that article “Lust for Diamonds”, on December 28, 2005, he sent the following email.

”You are quite right about Indian Affairs. Doug Forbes, the previous Regional Director General of Ontario was the main person sent out to destroy the relationship of the three Cree communities by directing all the negotiating funds only to Attawapiskat (north of Kashechewan) and the other
communities got no funding. The community had to get money from De Beers
just to talk to De Beers. Indian Affairs has squeezed the community over the last 5 years allowing them to go into debt and making sure they did not have funds to pay the staff.

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Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
09:46 AM on 12/23/2011
“Oh, I was only on the architecture negotiations. Americans have huge firms and they overwhelm us. Now we can bid on American work on an equal basis, have access to their markets and monitor their behavior in Canada”. She confirmed she knew that it was detrimental to the Indians and that there had been protests over it. As she always does when the going gets tough, she quickly changed the subject and did not answer any more questions. I did not tell her that we were invited to sit in on the meeting with Kashechewan in Toronto on January 3rd. She had set it up with De Beers, Indian Affairs and a lawyer, Jim RossHope of Calgary, she was bringing in.

“Who is advocating for the Crees?” I asked.

“I am”, she said. Then I asked how much she knew of the constitutional jurisdiction question. Nothing! So how could she negotiate on their behalf?

14. Zane Bell

DeBeers had a contact in Canada, Ellis Kirkland and Zane Bell. Zane had worked for Indian Affairs. He was an ‘environmental biologist’, who looked at rocks with a member of Kashechewan.

Zane worked for Indian Affairs for a year and a half and suddenly resigned and went to work for Ellis. We were thinking, “Somehow someone got a “finder’s fee” to deliver the Crees to DeBeers. Could it be Ellis or Zane?”

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Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
09:43 AM on 12/23/2011
12. Kirkland Capital Website

On her website there are no pictures or biographies of those she supposedly works with on her extensive global experience in building cities and governmental infrastructures. She was a NAFTA North American Free Trade National co-ordinator and representative under ‘architecture and a co-signer on June 25, 1994. She was on the Tri-national committee on architecture for NAFTA, for who? Was it for me and you? She was on the Royal Architectural Institute of Canada. She was on the Council of Ontario Association of Architects from 91 to 96 and president from 93 to 94. Her license is #4-185.

On her website there are dozens of pictures of her numerous certificates of memberships and accreditations to such organizations as the US National Council of Architectural Registration Board. She was on the Nevada State Board of Architecture of Interior Design and Residential Design, June 26, 1997.

Let’s say at this point, my skepticism about her was being confirmed. Her website under “think tank” has 726 pictures of the Kashechewan community. On January 2nd I picked up the phone at my home and called Ellis Kirkland in Toronto. It rang once and she answered it.

“It’s Kahentinetha Horn here. May I ask you some questions?”

She said, “Of course”.

I calmly asked her about her part in the NAFTA agreement, which, “As you know, the Indians in the Western Hemisphere oppose”.
Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
09:40 AM on 12/23/2011
Kirkland Capital of Toronto

Kirkland Capital seems to be a home office company in ritzy Rosedale in Toronto headed by Ellis Danjier Galea Kirkland. On her extensive and fancy website she purports to be an advisor in establishing international government development strategies, free trade policies and negotiations, international finance, commerce and constitutions, management, trade and technology.

Ellis seems to have everything but modesty. She is originally from Malta, attended schools here and at Harvard, which she was quick to tell me. I went to Harvard too for a semester on Early Childhood Education, which she probably wouldn’t care to know.

My granddaughter and I went to Toronto on November 24th 2005 to visit my friend Kay. The following morning I phoned Zane Bell, who lives in Peterborough, and tried to set up a meeting with him. Thirty seconds after we hung up the phone, Ellis Kirkland called and asked me out for lunch, “I’ll come and pick you up”. She never showed and she never called.

She never asked me anything about myself. She’s dark, looks Italian. Malta is a small island off Sicily. Malta which has been involved in banking and shady money deals since the time of the crusades. She did most of the talking about herself and never answered any of our questions.

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Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
09:38 AM on 12/23/2011
Then on January 2nd, Ntailan Lolkoki sent me another email, “... and maybe you can have a look on www.khoisanpeoples.org - for similarities.

DEAR TO ALL

THE SAN PEOPLE OF SOUTH AFRICA HAS NOTHING IN COMMON WITH DE BEERS.DE BEERS MAKES MILLIONS OF RANDS HERE IN RSA,BUT WE AS SOUTH AFRICANS DO NOT.THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES OF THE WORLD MUST NEVER ALLOWED DE BEERS IN THIER COUNTRIES,BECAUSE LOOK AT HOW THEY EXPLOITED OUR COUNTRY(RSA).HERE RSA WE ARE SO USED TO SELL -OUTS,THATS WHY WE TRY ESTABLISH A TRADITIONAL IN EVERY PROVINCE IN THIS COUNTRY.IN SUCH MANNER THERE WILL BE A BOND BETWEEN FELLOW COUNTRY MEN.WE FEEL THAT YOU MUST BE AWARE OF THE DE BEERS.

DE BEERS DID A VERY BAD THING AND TODAY WE HAVE NOTHING.ON EVERY SITE WHERE THERE WERE MINES WITH VALUABLE MINERALS THEY SOLLED IT.THATS WHY WE URGE YOU TO BOICOT DE BEERS.WE FULLY SUPPORT THESAN PEOPLE OF BOTSWANA.

KEEP ON WITH THE GOOD WORK
ECOTERRA Intl.
Nairobi Node

This certainly gave us food for thought and a lot to worry about.

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Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
09:35 AM on 12/23/2011
0. African connection: Kalahari Bush Men
I had found a book expose on them on the internet which revealed a lot of hanky panky on the part of De Beers in Africa.

On the internet site www.khoisan.org I found out more about DeBeers and their dealings with the Kalahari Bushmen in South Africa. To say the least I found them treacherous and vicious with these people. They had them removed onto reserves and then had them, deprived of hunting and gathering rights and water. So they started to die off. There had been an October 2003 ruling. The constitutional court ruled that the Nama People (Richtersvelders) have a right to ownership of their land and its minerals, despite the fact that they have never been given title deeds and the government had always assumed that they had no rights to it. They were affected when diamonds were discovered there. Botswana and DeBeers were worried. "The ruling that Indigenous People who own land under their own unwritten law have the right to have this upheld inspite of other legal systems which are subsequently imposed by the state had interesting implications for Botswana. If the South African ruling is applied then the Bushmen own their ancestral land as well as the mineral rights underneath their territory."

This can be looked up - Case CCT 19/03 Alexor Ltd. (1st Appellant) and the government of South Africa (2nd Appelland) vs. the Richtersvelder community and others.
Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
09:32 AM on 12/23/2011
Another plan was to build a dike separating James Bay and Hudson's Bay. Then James Bay would be drained into the Hudson's Bay. This would be filled up with fresh water from the rivers that flow north from the Canadian Shield. A huge reservoir would cover the whole area. This would be rerouted south to the U.S., or pumped into the Great Lakes and piped out.

The main U.S. concern is that the Mississippi is no longer viable. The population in California is over 40 million and it's dry. They desperately need water. Canada has the most, fresh water in the world. The U.S. wants it. The Indians are in the way.

To carry out this plan, all Indian communities on Hudson's Bay and James Bay will have to be removed before the area is flooded. The Indians are basically in the way. They live on the mouths of all the rivers draining into James Bay. They want the northern indigenous communities to pay for the U.S. environmental catastrophe.

On top of all this, the U.S. is going to get Canada to build the structure which has been designed to make sure the U.S. gets all the benefits... What they've forgotten is Sections 109 and 132 of the Canadian Constitution, stipulates, that the Indians have prior interests that supercede that of Canada and its provinces

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Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
09:30 AM on 12/23/2011
It's another experiment. Move the Indians away from their original constitutional territory onto another Indigenous nation's land. This separates them from their spiritual ties. Skylnick in her book "A Poison Stronger than Love" proved removals are a big "make work" project for Indian Affairs, who always say, "We'll make the decisions for them". The 1960's experiment on relocating Indians all had to be reversed in the end. Some were relocated to Elliot Lake, the Menominees were terminated, the Innu, were relocated to Davis Inlet. The common thread is that by such removals they lost their land and had to be reintegrated later. Indian Affairs never lets the people decide. They don't intend to do what's decent and good for the Indians.

Here's another slant. What's really going on here?

The North American Free Trade Agreement NAFTA was the crowning glory of former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and his negotiator, Simon Riesman. They gave away Canadian water to the U.S.

In NAFTA Canada cannot withhold its water from the United States. Americans are depleting their fresh water resources and are demanding the right to get Canadian water. One idea was to divert all the rivers that flow into James Bay into the Great Lakes. Then send it to the Midwestern U.S. to irrigate land Americans have turned into a parched "dust bowl".

http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2011/12/mnn-attawapiskat-kashachewan-and.html
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Capital Ottawa
03:34 PM on 12/01/2011
There is a lot of misinformation about Attawapiskat, check out this blog, it really clarifies the what the problem is:

http://apihtawikosisan.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/dealing-with-comments-about-attawapiskat/
Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
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Capital Ottawa
09:51 AM on 12/23/2011
Way to go Donna! Great research on the issue, thanks for the in depth perspective.
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Whistlejackett
Hey stop doing that
03:40 PM on 11/30/2011
Rae has given a great speech, and made many points that will make Harper's face red with shame. Hopefully the Cons will listen to him and get into action. The Northern communities should be sharing in the wealth just like the Inuit do, and build up from there making their own decisions about how they choose to live.
05:32 PM on 11/30/2011
what exactly did the Liberals do to help when they were in power for over a decade?...
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Whistlejackett
Hey stop doing that
05:42 PM on 11/30/2011
Try to focus on the present. This is an important issue for all Canadians, and I am tired of wasting tax payer's money.
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ProgressiveCDN
A Progressive Moderate
04:32 PM on 12/06/2011
Moe, you make a great point.

Sadly, that's not the point. Look at what Liberals are doing and saying NOW. Listen to Paul Martin who's devoting much of his life to the cause of Aboriginal Canadians, now look at what Bob Rae is saying.... You're right to be cynical, because they did do far too little when they were in power, but let's hope that progress is the Liberal goal. As opposed to complete and utter neglect under the current NeoCons
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10:00 PM on 11/30/2011
And what did the Libs do while they were the government? What, ok, give us another chance and we'll do right, we promise? Nonsense.

Come on Huff Post, do some real journalsin
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Whistlejackett
Hey stop doing that
10:10 PM on 11/30/2011
You don't make any sense.
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ProgressiveCDN
A Progressive Moderate
04:37 PM on 12/06/2011
You realize it's been almost 10 years right?

You also realize that the last Liberal PM has actually made it his life mission to help Aboriginal Canadians. Martin has created a non-profit that his helping Aboriginals on reserve and the most grass-roots level, getting them through school and providing all kinds of goods to help them... Stop pointing the finger, maybe.