Abortion Canada: Tory MP Stephen Woodworth Aims To Reopen Debate On Rights Of The Unborn

Abortion Canada Stephen Woodworth

The Huffington Post Canada   First Posted: 12/21/11 12:11 PM ET Updated: 12/21/11 08:50 PM ET

A Conservative MP is calling on Parliament to take another look at the rights of the unborn, potentially reopening the debate on abortion in Canada.

Stephen Woodworth sent a news release out Wednesday suggesting Canada should revamp its laws to recognize the human rights of unborn babies — most specifically, the right to life.

Woodworth cites an Angus Reid survey that suggested 79 per cent of Canadians incorrectly believe Canadian law protects the fundamental human rights of children before birth, in the later stages of gestation.

"In fact, the opposite is true,” Woodworth said in his press release. “Canadian law provides no human rights protection whatsoever for children before the moment of complete birth.”

Parliamentarians, he told The Huffington Post Canada, should discuss the issue and bring in ethicists and medical professionals to offer their expert opinion as to whether it makes sense, in the 21st century, to say that a child is not a human being until the moment of “complete birth.”

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“I think of regardless of a person’s views on abortion, it would be important to know whether a child is a human being before birth,” Woodworth, a member of Parliament’s “pro-life” caucus, said.

“It seems to me that to make those decisions, you need to proceed from a factual, accurate basis,” he added.

Asked if he is trying to reopen the abortion debate, Woodworth said he was trying to “shed light on it” so that whatever debate occurred was not based on “inaccurate principles.”

“If it was (up to) me, I would say a child is a human being before the moment of complete birth, but I am not a medical expert, I am simply suggesting that we look at the medical evidence on this thing,” he said.

Still, he acknowledged, the question he is raising is the first step towards recognizing the rights of the unborn, potentially granting them the right to life. That could, in turn, pave the way for abortion laws that determine whether or not a woman can chose to terminate her pregnancy.

“I think it would inform the abortion debate,” he said.

Woodworth acknowledged that he had discussed his press release with Prime Minister Stephen Harper. He also suggested the issue had been raised in caucus and that the timing of his press release — after the House of Commons had finished sitting, MPs had scattered to their ridings and the national media was heading on holiday — had been strategically negotiated.

“Whatever conversations I have privately are private. But I can tell you that my position is that this is an important issue and I didn’t want the end of the year to go by without having raised it,” the Member of Parliament for Kitchener Centre said.

This is not the first time anti-abortion advocates in the Conservative caucus have piped up. During the election campaign, Harper was forced to react to news that one of his backbench MPs, Saskatoon — Humboldt’s Brad Trost, was bragging he had helped “defund” Planned Parenthood.

At the time, Harper had pledged that as long as he was prime minister, the Conservatives would not open the abortion debate.

"The government will not bring forward any such legislation and any such legislation that is brought forward will be defeated as long as I am prime minister,” Harper said during the campaign.

When Planned Parenthood received federal government funding this fall, Trost wrote an open letter warning the Conservative Government to brace itself for more decent among MPs who oppose abortion.

“The government only responds to pro-life issues and concerns when we take an aggressive stance. We will apply this lesson," he vowed.

Woodworth, who described himself as less “confrontational” than Trost, said he first tried to raise the idea of a debate on the rights of the unborn last year. But his 60-second statement in the House of Commons “really didn’t get noticed much,” he said.

Personally, Woodworth added, he believes the unborn should be protected.

“I would err on the side of protecting children before birth,” he said, although declining to say when life should begin to be protected.
“I have a variety of points of view on that and I’d rather wait until I see the evidence.”

Even though, Harper may not agree, Woodworth said, he believes a debate should be allowed to take place.

“I’m not disappointed if everybody doesn’t agree with me, that’s okay, but let’s at least figure out what the evidence is, what is the medical evidence?,” he said.

Canadians are quite capable of having an intelligent debate on the matter, he added.

But without a private members' bill or even a motion, Woodworth has little chance of getting debate started without the Conservative government's approval.

“I’m not for closing any options and certainly a motion in Parliament is an option and I’ll figure that out in the new year,” he told HuffPost.

This is not the first time, Conservative MPs have tried to pave the way for changes to Canada’s abortion stance.

In 2010, Tory MP Rod Bruinooge introduced a private member's bill that would have added new criminal penalties for those who coerce women into terminating a pregnancy. Harper voted against the bill and it ultimately failed.

However, four years ago, Harper did vote in favour of a private member's bill introduced by Tory MP Ken Epp which would have treated the unborn as separate victims when mothers are attacked or killed. Many saw the bill as an indirect means to prevent abortions. The government eventually blocked passage of the bill.

Canada currently has no laws regulating abortion.

You can read the complete text of Woodworth's release on Facebook.

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10:24 PM on 02/08/2012
Abortion is the killing of _______. A) a bunch of cells B) an embryo C) a human being D) all of the above. If you were in Biology class, even a hard-hearted biology professor would have to answer D. Four decades of sanctioned killing of human life has de-sensitized us. It is a legitimate question and yes, it may lead to the correction of legalized evil that has pervaded our country. Even toddlers know ultrasound images of fetuses represent living human babies. Oh the truth hurts, but the truth is the truth, and if you can't deal with it, then you are conveniently burying your head in the sand and turning a blind's eye to the evil it is. Women are truly free when they and the rest of society accept their dignity as bearers of the human race, not killers of it.
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08:33 PM on 12/23/2011
just another assault (doomed to failure) on the reproductive rights of women.
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PoliticalJunkie65
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11:04 PM on 12/27/2011
Agreed. A lot of people here can't seem to get that through their thick skulls. There will be this kind of pressure until the end of time, but Canada will about be about a woman's right to choose.
10:31 PM on 12/03/2012
To PoliticalJunkie65: A woman's right to choose what? Abortion? Infanticide? Whatever she chooses?

Sorry, but my skull tends to reject the phrase " . . .a woman's right to choose" as hopelessly meaningless or else alarmingly sinister.
Donna Meness
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08:32 AM on 12/23/2011
Gov. Kasich signs bill to prohibit coverage for abortion

By William Hershey | Wednesday, December 21, 2011, 04:26 PM

Gov. John Kasich on Wednesday signed legislation to prohibit the Ohio health benefit exchanges to be created under the new federal health care law from providing coverage for abortions.

House Bill 79 was backed by abortion opponents and opposed by supporters of abortion rights.

“Ohio is witnessing historic gains in legislation that protects mothers and saves unborn babies,” Mike Gonidakis, Ohio Right to Life executive director, said in a press release.

“Politicians should never be allowed to limit the kinds of insurance benefits that women are allowed to purchase with their own money,” Kellie Copeland, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Ohio, said in a separate release.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/ohiopolitics/entries/2011/12/21/gov_kasich_signs_bill_to_prohi.html?cxtype=feedbot

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_HB_79
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PoliticalJunkie65
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11:05 PM on 12/27/2011
You realize we're talking about Canada right?
Donna Meness
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02:17 AM on 12/28/2011
Canada has been invaded by american thinking for a # of yrs. now...

If anyone is interested enough to see how Canada has been infiltrated by the Yank Think tanks and moneyed capitalistic Foundations along with the Yankee corporations, There is a new (2009) book out by Donald Gutstein, ex-professor of Communications at Simon Fraser University called “Not a Conspiracy Theory” . The subtitle is “How Business Hijacked Democracy!”
You can get a summary if you Google the title and name.
It covers the formation of the Reform party, the real rise of the Fraser and CD Howe Institutes to formulate the propaganda and the Yankee foundations like the Donner Foundation that established Canadian roots and the multinational corporations and big business that fund it all. The greatest propaganda machine in the world and now it is focussed on OUR medicare system. It has been for some time and are constantly generating lies and misleading articles about the shortcomings of the system but not mentioning it is mainly caused by purposely underfunding by the right wing governments. But it is also focussed on our education system, and, with CETA, they will be allowed to privatize all services and procurements across Canada , right down to municipal level.

That is what Van Loan and over 100 CEOs are working on now with Harper’s blessing.

http://www.canadians.org/integratethis/backgrounders/timeline.html

For more information on the public consultation or to submit comments, consult www.borderactionplan.gc.ca.
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08:27 AM on 12/23/2011
The US House of Representatives introduced several major anti-abortion bills and voted to eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, a reproductive health organization that provides three million patients per year in the US with family planning, contraception and abortion services. Related initiatives have been launched in many states, including a bill that would outlaw abortions after the first heartbeat can be medically detected in Ohio (for which an unborn child is set to "testify" via ultrasound), legislation to criminalize miscarriages in Georgia and bills in Iowa, Nebraska and South Dakota that would legalize killing abortion providers.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/16/a_war_on_women_gop_bills

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/02/ohio-texas-duel-most-restrictive-abortion-law

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/rep-bobby-franklin-looks-to-criminalize-miscarriages

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/02/iowa-bills-justifiable-homicide-abortion-docs
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11:05 PM on 12/27/2011
You are obsessed....and a bit scary.
Donna Meness
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02:10 AM on 12/28/2011
a self educated Indigenous woman of Turtle Island...who understands the big picture.

do a bit of research to understand how politically aligned both Canada & the USA in all aspects..
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05:07 AM on 12/28/2011
Throughout the 1990s, especially the early years, the Canadian Reform Party and the American Republican Party were forging ties, that have proven to be lasting.

They share policies, initiatives, staff, and even financing.

The New Right movement has many "signals" and according to David Kuo, the term "believers' is assigned to anyone believing in three things: the end of abortion, the end of gay rights, and the right to carry a gun. In an oped piece Harper wrote in 1995, he claimed that Reform was about "Gays, Guns and Government Grants".

He was a "believer".

http://pushedleft.blogspot.com/2011/09/canadian-manifesto-10-exploitation-of_25.html
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08:18 AM on 12/23/2011
I am DEEPLY, let me say again DEEPLY concerned of the consequences of this potential action. Are not the Conservatives running on a platform of international aid in terms of maternal health?! Planned Parenthood is a fantastic organization that provides much needed education and services to thousands of Canadians, men and women, each year.

Why would you cut funding to a program that would help to do so in other countries? Would you not want your sister, daughters, granddaughters to have access to education about sexual health, parenthood, and birth control?
Why not those who live in countries less fortunate than ours, also have access to such programs?

Are we living in the dark ages?

As a woman, I need to feel safe, I need to know that there are organizations to which I can turn to for help. Planned Parenthood welcomes women of all types and classes. They do not judge. This is so important in regards to providing a safe, open and inviting environment in which to ask questions about sexual health. Hospitals can be scary places for many people and my community Planned Parenthood is just that, a part of my community. I support them, and they support me. To this end, I think their presence internationally might just be the most important kind of organization that we can put forward onto the international scene, to assist in the health of women across the world.
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08:17 AM on 12/23/2011
-97% of what planned parenthood does includes pap smears, comprehensive sex ed, cervical cancer screenings, hiv testing and treatments, other sti testing and treatments, brest exams, pelvic exams, fertility screenings and referrals, vasectomies, pre-natal care (shocker, people want to KEEP their babies? /sarcasm), birth control etc.
-There are more than 78,000 children in the care of child welfare organizations across Canada. More than 30,000 of these children have parents whose parental rights have been terminated by the courts.
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08:17 AM on 12/23/2011
Let me just say that this is a sad attempt at abolishing abortion. Abolishing abortion DOES NOT STOP ABORTION. It forces women to use unsafe methods; back alley, hangers etc.
-70,000 women die every single year around the world from unsafe abortion, leaving behind 220,000 already born children without mothers.
-61% of women seeking abortions are already mothers and cannot provide for more children.
-68% of women seeking abortions are either married or in long-term relationships and never want to be mothers and despite their efforts, get pregnant anyway.
-54% of women seeking abortions were using some form of contraception that failed them. ie; taking antibiotics while on the pill thus rendering it less effective, forgetting to take the pill, the condom breaking etc.
-of those who were not using contraception, something like 30% had concerns with contraception, such as a latex allergy, or a woman over 35 who smokes (more prone to blood clots). Also about 30% thought they couldn't get pregnant, such as they had their tubes tied/vasectomy, or were told they were infertile.
-3% of what planned parenthood does is abortion.

more next post ..sorry
Donna Meness
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08:16 AM on 12/23/2011
Harper's teacher & hero..

http://das.sagepub.com/content/18/6/719.short
Donna Meness
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08:16 AM on 12/23/2011
Maternal Health Plan about Saving Lives, not “Family Planning”: Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/maternal-health-plan-about-saving-lives-not-family-planning-canadian-foreig

Also in response to Rafferty, Cannon pointed out that Canada's plan has drawn praise from African leaders, who have not mentioned the issue of family planning.

NDP member of parliament John Rafferty, who claimed that the most important and cost effective way to reduce morbidity rates is family planning and contraception.

As a follow-up to his initial question about family planning in the initiative, Rafferty indicated that Canada spends millions of dollars every year on family planning, and noted specifically Canada's support for the International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF). “Are those funds going to be secure or will you again, at the cabinet table, work to make sure that those funds are still available?” he asked.

Minister Cannon directed Rafferty to speak with the Minister of International Cooperation, Bev Oda.
Donna Meness
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08:14 AM on 12/23/2011
For example, women who choose roles other than that of full-time stay-at-home wife and mother and especially those who actively seek to create conditions in which women who choose other roles are not discriminated against are the women dubbed ‘radical feminists’ by Gairdner and they are purported to be the instruments of the breakdown of so-called traditional values in Canadian society.

http://pushedleft.blogspot.com/2011/04/suspension-of-womens-rights-are-we.html
Donna Meness
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08:14 AM on 12/23/2011
The relationship between Stephen Harper and Gairdner is long and deep.

Both are founding Reform Party members and also instrumental in the creation of The Northern Foundation: "... established in 1989, originally as a pro-South Africa group . . . [n favour of continued Apartheid]. Since its establishment, however, the foundation has developed into a broad coalition of right-wing groups and individuals across the country’ lists among the founding members of the Foundation both William Gairdner and Stephen Harper.

Gairdner is also former chair of the National Citizens’ Coalition, where Stephen Harper spent three decades, eventually acting as both VP and President; and founding president of the Civitas Society, one of the policy arms of the Harper government.
In arguing that at least some sexist discourse should be considered hate speech, I first demonstrate that the popular discourse of Canadian neoconservative author William D. Gairdner is sexist.... Sexism, the ideology and practice of relegating women to a lower rung on the social hierarchy than men simply by virtue of their femaleness, is an integral component of neoconservative thinking, and one way that such sexism is produced and reproduced is through language"

more..
Donna Meness
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08:37 AM on 12/23/2011
more research on Gairdner

http://das.sagepub.com/content/18/6/719.short
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06:04 PM on 03/09/2013
/ 2 of 3

Just like dictators, Ms. Meness, you would set all the rules for all time: YOUR rules.

You would therefore necessarily eliminate debate and your need to defend ideas you disagree with -- by simply imposing your idea in the place of everybody else's ideas.

But you cannot set the rules for all time, Ms. Meness, because, like Fidel Castro, you cannot live for all time.

The whole point of freedom, Ms. Meness, including freedom of thought, belief and expression, is to guarantee to every human generation the right and dignity of being able to rethink every idea of every past generation.

You would arrogate to yourself personally the right to decide for all time what all people everywhere must always think, which I view as an astounding and violent aggression against the innate freedom of the human spirit.

... 3/3
Donna Meness
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08:13 AM on 12/23/2011
The authors say that seven facilities have private court injunctions against pro-lifers, two are covered by B.C.'s Access to Abortion Services Act, and twenty-four (73%) have no legal barriers against pro-life activism. Sixteen (53%) said staff felt "upset" or "frightened" as a result of the pro-life presence, though eight said they were not affected by it. Nineteen (58%) favored legislation akin to British Columbia's for their
province.

http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/presentations/ARCC-survey-protest-activity.pdf
Donna Meness
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08:13 AM on 12/23/2011
Twenty-one of Canada's 33 abortion facilities currently have a pro-life presence, reports the Abortion Rights Coalition of Canada (ARCC) in a new study.

The study, designed to promote the legal elimination of pro-life activism and sidewalk counseling, is based on a survey of staff at each facility and released November 16. It found that an additional seven facilities (15%) had experienced pro-life witnessing in the past.

The survey aimed to measure "anti-choice activity" outside the facilities and the effectiveness of pro-abortion measures to reduce or eliminate it. British Columbia's Access to Abortion Services Act, in particular, as a model for other provinces. The act, which came into force in 1995, makes pro-life activity illegal within "bubble zones" around the province's abortion facilities, hospitals, and the offices and homes of abortionists.

"The court injunctions and BC's law have been quite successful – they have significantly reduced protest activity at every clinic that uses them, sometimes completely eliminating it," said Arthur in a press release. "We hope that the survey data will be helpful for other provinces that may want to pass bubble zone legislation, or for clinics thinking about getting a court injunction."

next..
Donna Meness
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08:12 AM on 12/23/2011
This party has always been very patriarchal, pro-Anglo and Christian fundamentalist.

One of their mentors and co-founder with Stephen Harper of a right-wing extremist group, the Northern Foundation, William Gairdner; always had some very disturbing views on women. Another co-founder of the Northern Foundation was Link Byfield, who has spoken at REAL Women conferences. In a 2002 lecture he stated: "Women, men and families must be defended against those forces that enslave us as we speak. That's why it is necessary for REAL Women to exist and to persist in its work on behalf of the Judeo-Christian understanding of marriage and family life."
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06:07 PM on 03/09/2013
Ms. Meness:

If you disagree with anything Mr. Gairdner has to say, I might be fascinated to know your viewpoint; but I would not rush to shut up either you or Mr. Gairdner by attempting to criminalize and suppress with the power of the state his or your ideas or the expression of them.

Your "hate speech" diatribe in your Sage article which you link below is a true menace to real freedom, and to civilization.

As in Orwell's 1984, you want language to be eliminated from the public space with a view to eliminating the ability to THINK about certain issues.

But, if "certain" ideas cannot be expressed -- those you disapprove of, or those which whoever is in power does not welcome and has the coercive agency of the state to suppress -- then no idea, whether good or bad, can ever be thought about and if necessary, challenged.

Like Orwell's Winston, you would inevitably edit the news and the dictionaries -- which, in fact, is already happening.

What is more reprehensible in your concept that some ideas are "hate" speech is that it is mind control.

Like Fidel Castro, you would deprive other human beings of the dignity and integrity of being able to challenge ideas you happen to disagree with in the environment in which they live. You would deprive them of the human right to know, and to control their lives. And you would do so because you think you are superman. ... 2/3
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06:17 PM on 03/09/2013
/ 3 of 3 -- The concept of "hate speech" is totalitarian.

My grandmother used to say, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names can never hurt me". That was a good British-English reply to the totalitarian idea of silencing others to "defend" yourself.

I was a child when she said it; I didn't know then it was the very basis of liberty. For, it comes down to this: short of libel or slander, if you haven't got the guts, backbone and character to exist despite what other people think or say, then that's your problem.

But, in your world, which is also the world of Aldous Huxley, the poor, conditioned, sanitized, brainwashed and silenced people would have to take hormone treatments to give themselves a good, artificial "passion".

What sets us apart from animals is our ability to think, to hand down the good, the bad and the ugly ideas to other generations. That which leaves us indifferent today may tomorrow stir our passions. But, your "hate speech" theories, which are mind control, would reduce us humans to nothing but conditioned animals -- which, of course, was state policy of the USSR under Brezhnev.

If those of us who disagree with you had the balance of power, why, we could shut you up, too! While you for all time would jail our souls, we are content to let yours fly free... however erratically -- in the knowledge that in doing so, we ensure our own freedom.