Crown-First Nations Gathering: Chiefs Hopeful For Change Despite Reports Stephen Harper Won't Listen (VIDEO)

First Posted: 01/23/2012 1:13 pm Updated: 01/23/2012 5:05 pm

OTTAWA — Canada’s First Nations' chiefs say they are cautiously optimistic that tomorrow’s Crown-First Nations Gathering will lead to a new relationship between the federal government and their people.

But news that Prime Minister Stephen Harper has no plans to stay and listen to the approximately 400 chiefs who have come to Ottawa to participate in the landmark summit have already irked many of them Monday.

"I totally disagree with the Prime Minister not showing up for the afternoon sessions, I believe that it is his responsibility to listen to us, for whatever we have to say to him to fix our communities," Chief Jimmy Thorassie of the Sayisi Dene First Nation in northern Manitoba told The Huffington Post.

"These are the things that need to be addressed and if he is not going to address them...?," Thorassie added, lifting his hands in the air. "I just disagree with him."

“Right now, there isn’t the possibility for all the chiefs to participate in tomorrow’s meeting with the government, (Harper) will instead meet selected people in private,” Chief Denis Landry, of the Conseil de bande des Abenakis de Wolinak said.

“When it goes well with some people we invite them, and when it goes less well, we sideline them,” Landry added.

He was hoping Tuesday’s meetings might lead to real change in the type of relationship the federal government has fostered with First Nations people.

“We are currently at an impasse where the First Nations don’t see where we are going to end up ... The First Nations are backtracking … The needs are getting greater and the cuts are getting deeper,” he said.

“We hope it won’t get worse, but what we see from this government, it’s not about bettering relationships between nations,” Landry said.

NDP MP Peter Julian said Harper has an important obligation to be at the meetings.

"I think to have the Prime Minister spend one day on aboriginal issues given the crisis that so many communities across this country are experiencing, that is the least that he could do," he said.

"This is a government that has neglected aboriginal communities, has neglected the growing housing crisis, has neglected the chronic poverty that we are seeing, he has a responsibility to be there," Julian added.

Harper's spokesman Andrew MacDougall told reporters Monday that Harper would attend Tuesday morning's opening ceremonies and deliver a 20 minute speech, but that he won't be at any of the sessions discussing potential areas for change.

"The prime minister is going to be giving a good chunk of his day to go to that gathering," MacDougall said. "He looks forward to it, expects to have productive time there and the rest of the government is fully engaged on this."

MacDougall noted that nearly a third of the federal cabinet and some forty high-ranking officials would be in attendance to help start identifying some areas where Canada can move forward with First Nations peoples.

Monday, Harper met with a few chiefs privately in his office. He plans to sit down with Shawn Atleo, the national chief of the Assembly of First Nations, Tuesday.

Grand Chief Denise Stonefish, from the Association of Iroquois and Allied Indians in Ontario, said she was “optimistic” about the meeting, but added “that’s just right on the edge.”

“I’m being hopeful, but we are not going to accomplish everything in one day so that’s why I’m looking at building a strong foundation and moving forward in the long term, not just with this current government but also with any subsequent governments,” she said.

"Hopefully, that will take us out of the third world conditions that exist," she added.

The relationship with the federal government is pretty tenuous right now, Stonefish said. “I get a little perturbed when they say that we can’t manage ourselves and they still need to come in and dictate to us what needs to be done.”

Stonefish is hoping to see progress on education so that young people can seize opportunities and move forward in their lives. Schools on reserves are underfunded and First Nations should be given control and sufficient monetary and teaching resources to invest in people’s futures, she said.

Chief Irvin Sinclair of the Bunibonibee Cree Nation in Oxford House, Manitoba said he also hoped Tuesday’s meeting would be the first of many with the prime minister and other provincial and territorial premiers.

“I hope that they will modernize our partnership, because we have First Nations in Manitoba especially that have come a long way and we are ready and willing to run our own governments and they should be able to understand that now,” he said.

He hopes communities can be given more control over natural resources and revenue sharing. “It boggles the mind when you are surrounded by wealth and you are not allowed to share any of it,” he told HuffPost.

But the first step toward fixing the “outdated and disconnected” relationship is listening, Sinclair said.

“They need to listen to us, is the bottom line.”

Grand Chief David Harper of the Manitoba Keewatinow Okimakanak said listening would come with the overhaul of the electoral process.

Some Manitoba chiefs are suggesting the federal government set aside seats in the House of Commons and the Senate for First Nations representatives.

“We would elect our First Nations people in the House of Commons for people to speak on our behalf because a lack of representation and a lack of leadership that is happening in the House is what is causing all these crises in our communities. The lack of running water, absolutely no running water in my First Nations, there are 1,000 homes that absolutely doesn’t have no running water, this is what is needed here today,” Harper said.

“The Attawapiskats, they had a lake with no clean running water, well we have to speak. Those words have to be spoken in the House, who is speaking on our behalf? Nobody. That is why we are still in this state today," he added.

Selected seats for First Nations voters is not a radical new idea. The failed Charlottetown Accord proposed dedicated Senate seats for aboriginal peoples.

Many chiefs HuffPost spoke with said they were supportive of the idea, which might be easily accommodated now that the Conservative government has added 30 new seats to the Commons and boundary commissions are preparing to redraw riding borders.

But Stonefish said she she wasn’t sure representation would turn into action.

“We’d have a voice, but I don’t know if it would help in swaying any of the decisions,” she said.

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    Canadian soldier Patrick Cloutier and Saskatchewan Native Brad Laroque alias "Freddy Kruger" come face to face in a tense standoff at the Kahnesatake reserve in Oka, Quebec, Saturday September 1, 1990. Twenty plus years after an armed standoff at Oka laid Canada's often difficult relationship with its native peoples bare in international headlines, the bitterly contested land remains in legal limbo. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Shaney Komulainen)

  • Oka Crisis

    A warrior raises his weapon as he stands on an overturned police vehicle blocking a highway at the Kahnesetake reserve near Oka, Quebec July 11, 1990 after a police assault to remove Mohawk barriers failed. Twenty plus years after an armed standoff at Oka laid Canada's often difficult relationship with its native peoples bare in international headlines, the bitterly contested land remains in legal limbo. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Tom Hanson)

  • Oka Crisis

    A Quebec Metis places a stick with an eagle feather tied to it into the barrel of a machine gun mounted on an army armored vehicle at Oka Thursday, Aug. 23, 1990. The vehicle was one of two positioned a few metres away from the barricade causing a breakdown in negotiations. Twenty plus years after an armed standoff at Oka laid Canada's often difficult relationship with its native peoples bare in international headlines, the bitterly contested land remains in legal limbo. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Bill Grimshaw)

  • Oka Crisis

    A Mohawk Indian winds up to punch a soldier during a fight that took place on the Khanawake reserve on Montreal's south shore in 1990. The army broke up the fight by shooting into the air. Twenty plus years after an armed standoff at Oka laid Canada's often difficult relationship with its native peoples bare in international headlines, the bitterly contested land remains in legal limbo. (CP PHOTO)

  • Ipperwash

    Two aboriginal protesters man a barricade near the entrance to Ipperwash Provincial Park, near Ipperwash Beach, Ont., on Sept. 7, 1995. (CP PHOTO)

  • Ipperwash

    Ken Wolf, 9, walks away from a graffiti-covered smoldering car near the entrance to the Ipperwash Provincial Park in this September 7, 1995 photo. A group of aboriginal protesters were occupying the park and nearby military base. (CP PHOTO)

  • Caledonia Protests

    Caledonian activist Gary McHale (right) is confronted by a Six Nations Protester as he attempts to lead members of Canadian Advocates for Charter Equality (CANACE) in carrying a makeshift monument to Six Nations land in Caledonia, Ont., on Sunday February 27, 2011. CANACE claim inequality in treatment for Caledonian residents from Ontario Provincial Police compared to that of the Six Nation population. They planned to plant a monument of six nation property to demand an apology from the OPP, but were turned back by protesters. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Chris Young

  • Caledonia Protests

    First Nations people of the Grand River Territory stand with protest signs as they force the redirection of the Vancover 2010 Olympic Torch Relay from entering The Six Nations land Monday, December 21, 2009 near Caledonia, Ontario. The Olympic torch's journey across Canada was forced to take a detour in the face of aboriginal opposition to the Games, with an Ontario First Nation rerouting its relay amid a protest from a splinter group in the community. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Dave Chidley)

  • Caledonia Protests

    Six Nations protesters guard the front entrance of a housing development in Hagersville, Ont., just south of the 15-month aboriginal occupation at Caledonia on Wednesday, May 23, 2007. The protest was peaceful. (CP PHOTO/Nathan Denette)

  • Caledonia Protests

    Mohawk protestors block a road near the railway tracks near Marysville, Ont. with a bus and a bonfire Friday April 21, 2006. The natives showed their support to fellow natives in Caledonia, Ont. where they were in a stand off with police regarding land claims.(CP PHOTO/Jonathan Hayward)

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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
06:34 PM on 01/27/2012
"This is a government that has neglected aboriginal communities, has neglected the growing housing crisis, has neglected the chronic poverty that we are seeing, he has a responsibility to be there,"

Other than this what did the previous government do except put forth the Kelowna Accord? Obviously nothing has happened since the Indian Act otherwise they wouldn't be talking. Or are they?
12:27 PM on 01/24/2012
Say no to intimidation, ALL people should be full and equal citizens, time to end apartheid.
09:36 AM on 01/24/2012
Start the process to abolish the Indian Act and change the status quo.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
06:35 PM on 01/27/2012
Mr. Harper has no plans to revisit it even though as you say it should be done.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
06:46 PM on 01/27/2012
Well abolishing the Indian Act isn't popular with First Nations. but the WCB has been abolished so anything is possible.
Thinking historically, and Jean Chretien;
"After the June 1968 election, he was appointed Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development. His most notable achievement in this role was the 1969 White Paper, a proposal to abolish the Indian Act. The paper was widely opposed by First Nations groups, and later abandoned."
09:49 PM on 01/27/2012
Like the WCB, people getting rich by keeping the status quo
Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
12:29 AM on 01/24/2012
http://www.ammsa.com/node/13599
Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
09:29 PM on 01/23/2012
Time to end race based preferential treatment, end the reserve system and do away with the Indian Act. Wanting the gov't to 'listen' is just a euphemism for send more money, no questions asked. Well Canadians have had it, aboriginals get billions every year from the taxpayers, enough is enough thank you.
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ejais
11:54 PM on 01/23/2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlkuRCXdu5A something you might be interested in watching....especially about the "billions" aboriginals (taxpayers also) get?
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SiameseTrainer
...we are Sia..mese if you don't please..
02:10 AM on 01/24/2012
FAM !!!
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Colin Speth
A Claymore for your thoughts
08:06 PM on 01/23/2012
The concerns for the Aboriginal cause on here is really heartwarming. Did you care so much when things were exactly the same if not worse during the 90's under Jean Cretien ? Of course you didn't.
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SiameseTrainer
...we are Sia..mese if you don't please..
02:28 AM on 01/24/2012
And I suppose you can produce a link to back your assertion that; "things were exactly the same if not worse during the 90's under Jean Cretien"? Of course you don't. Budget cuts have consequences you know.
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Colin Speth
A Claymore for your thoughts
06:19 AM on 01/24/2012
No your right reserves were beautiful wonderfull places full of sunshine under the Liberals. And I don't need a like dude I live beside a reserve that hasn't changed for the better in 20 years. Budget cuts lol so we should be spending more during a recession ? Brilliant.
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
02:30 AM on 01/24/2012
I did...And at least Cretien was willing to listen. Arrogance and white pride didn't get in the way.
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Colin Speth
A Claymore for your thoughts
06:20 AM on 01/24/2012
Oh yeah a real man of the people Jean. Bet he's never set foot on a reserve in his entire life. Maybe he will choke someone out for yelling at him.
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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
05:36 PM on 01/23/2012
There is no possibility that tomorrow’s Crown-First Nations Gathering will lead to a new relationship between them.

Many people are aware, but don't seem willing to acknowledge openly, that the Harper Conservatives do not believe in First Nations equality. The Conservative believe the resolution to this issue is voluntary assimilation. Aside from that they can live on the reserves in 3rd world squalor.

Now if you don't mind, Harper's a busy man. He has to go off to China and lecture them on human rights while he's trying to sell them some tar sands.
06:43 PM on 01/23/2012
I think you're right. I do not see assimilation happening anytime soon. It would have happened by now. It does appear his mind is made up about the tar sands. Can anyone stop him?
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
07:11 PM on 01/23/2012
Newt Gingrich maybe...but only to stop him from selling the sands to China instead of the US.

Watch for the Axis of Evil-type speech about Canada and its resources being overtaken by China's new empire (a sell-off most of which has been aided and abetted by US and Canadian multinationals).

Gonna get interesting watching Harper squirm defending deals with China and not alienate his GOP friends, who are if anything even more xenophobic than he is (and just as guilty of the dance with the dragon).
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SiameseTrainer
...we are Sia..mese if you don't please..
02:24 AM on 01/24/2012
Assimilation will NEVER happen in BC. Our First Nations have a 100+ year history of turning down the highest bidder, and having the Courts back them up. I find it curious that Harper has always been quite vocal about refusing to sell out the aspirations of China's minorities for their human rights for the sake "of the almighty dollar" and yet now he seems quite willing to sell out the rights and aspirations of an Internationally Recognized First Nations Minority to guarantee Chinese energy security, oh, and an unending flow of almighty dollars to his home Province of Alberta.
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Colin Speth
A Claymore for your thoughts
08:08 PM on 01/23/2012
Yeah because 10 years of Liberal rule really did alot for the First nations didn't it ? And what solution do you put forth other than lame analogies and throwing millions of more dollars at the problem ?
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ejais
11:42 PM on 01/23/2012
Actually Liberals brought a solid plan to fruitation. It was called the Kelowna Accord. To bad as soon as Stephen Harper was elected it was eliminated.Within a ten year time plan it would have addressed all the problems that have escalated under Stephen Harpers leadership and would have cost less than what its gonna cost to now.
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turkeylurky
Just keepin it real........
05:18 PM on 01/23/2012
Whatever happened to Patrick Cloutier (the soldier in the Oka standoff)?
I remember being really impressed with his self-control - nerves of steel...
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
05:21 PM on 01/23/2012
ROTFL.....yeah he was, didn't you hear the follow-up? Came out he was a coke user, and is said to have been whacked on blow throughout the "standoff" (aka "siege").
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ejais
11:45 PM on 01/23/2012
http://www.famouspictures.org/mag/index.php?title=Oka_Faceoff ...as forrest gump would say....thats all i have to say about that.
04:39 PM on 01/23/2012
“When it goes well with some people we invite them, and when it goes less well, we sideline them,” Landry added.~In other words if the Chiefs are not polite and agreeable he will move on to the next one. Harper continues to show a lack of respect for the people of the country he leads.
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john frodo
armchair expert
04:10 PM on 01/23/2012
How will he listen, he is not going to meet them, only show up for the photo op.
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Leanne McKenzie
You can't make this sh*t up.
04:06 PM on 01/23/2012
Harper will not listen, but others will. If only they were people in power.

The Canadian government can not disregard written agreements with the First Nations people.
To do so is a failure and a shameful act.
Anthropocan
Je est un Autre.
05:40 PM on 01/23/2012
"To do so is a failure and a shameful act. "

Environment, G20, Military spending...I could go on, but I think that waiting for their sense of shame or duty to kick in would be...overly optimistic (i.e. they don't care).
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Leanne McKenzie
You can't make this sh*t up.
05:53 PM on 01/23/2012
There there is that. Which is also a failure and a shameful act.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
04:03 PM on 01/23/2012
A "productive day" for Harper is apparently an opening ceremony and a 20-minute speech of motherhood points and/or paternalism.......he's only there for the photo-op.....sticking around would not be "productive", more like "just asking for it" in the way of bad press and things he'll only look bad trying to answer to.

The chiefs will get more productivity out of him if they tie him to the stake and threaten to light the fire.....

All they're gonna hear is paternalistic spew and semi-racist finger-pointing. This isn't a summit WITH him, it's gonna be a summit ABOUT him (and what to do about him).

"Thanks for the dinner invite, but I gotta go catch my chopper, I had to borrow it from MacKay for the day......I'll say hi to my buddy Newt for you...."
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04:49 PM on 01/23/2012
This a good bedtime fable, bit too long and booooooring.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
05:17 PM on 01/23/2012
For those with a two-second attention span and a good Tory brainwash, no doubt.

You're probably the type who'll come back tomorrow and tell us that Steve had a great productive day, getting an eagle headdress (I doubt they're giving him one, though), smiling wanly while they sing the welcome song, making a twenty-minute speech, no press scrum and just time to run for the limo.....unless maybe that twenty minute speech announces the end of the Indian Act and how instead the government is putting all reserve lands on the block, and negating any future land claims.

I mean, what do you Tory bots think is going on in the world anyway? That politicians are the good guys, and the people ignorant/bad/undeserving?

Actually I think your post, which is a non sequitur vs what I said, is probably evidence that you're one of the many program-blogger "bots" that are known to be working the scene this last year or two.......
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Russg
03:57 PM on 01/23/2012
Everybody knows Harper doesn't listen. Sometimes that is an asset. Other times it is a liability. Either way, Harper does what Harper wants to do, everybody else's opinions be damned.
12:02 AM on 01/24/2012
You hit the nail right on the head. This man Harper has no clue what it means to listen and be a leader as the head of the federal government. Let's get rid of him!
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
02:38 AM on 01/24/2012
Its a clear sign of an out of touch arrogant government that needs to fall into the dust bin of stupid ideas.
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Russg
05:08 PM on 01/24/2012
Yep
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03:37 PM on 01/23/2012
I think it is TIME to give chiefs some tough love....