Stephen Woodworth: Conservative MP Files Motion Aimed At Reopening Abortion Debate

First Posted: 02/ 6/2012 1:20 pm Updated: 02/ 6/2012 7:29 pm

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Stephen Woodworth, the Tory MP for Kitchener Centre, tabled a motion in Parliament Monday calling for the formation of a special committee to study "what medical evidence exists to demonstrate that a child is or is not a human being before the moment of complete birth." (CP)

OTTAWA — A Conservative MP is proposing a roundabout way of reopening the abortion debate, despite the Harper government's insistence that it has no plans to engage in the conversation.

Stephen Woodworth, the Tory MP for Kitchener Centre, said he believes it is unacceptable — “illegitimate and wrong” — for Canada to have a law that doesn’t recognize a "child” as a human being before the moment of “complete birth.”

Woodworth favours reopening the abortion debate, he told reporters Monday, as he acknowledged that a motion he tabled Monday morning was a first step toward doing so.

“Whatever view one has about other issues, does it make medical sense in the 21st century to say that a child is not a human being until the moment of complete birth?” Woodworth asked reporters.

Parliamentarians and Canadians have a duty to reject any law that doesn’t recognize human beings as human beings, he suggested.

But Opposition MPs were quick to latch on to Woodworth’s motion as an indication that Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservative Government intends to allow a debate on a woman’s right to choose.

“(Harper) always says he doesn’t want a debate on the topic but then he lets his MPs start one,” NDP interim leader Nycole Turmel told reporters.

The controlling Prime Minister could shut his backbench MP down, if he wanted too, Turmel suggested.

The question of when life begins is directly tied to determining when a fetus is given the right to live, Bloc Quebecois MP Maria Mourani told reporters after Question Period Monday.

“Whether you want to or not, the debate on human beings is a debate tied to abortion as well as all types of questions related to genetic research: children, test-tube babies, everything is tied to this definition of a human being,” she said.

With Woodworth’s abortion motion coming on the heels of Conservative Senator Pierre-Hugues Boisvenu’s open musing on the death penalty, Mourani said she was questioning whether the Tories were trying to use the back-door to pass controversial ideas “of their own.”

Woodworth’s motion calls for the formation of a special committee to determine when a human being is formed and, based on that conclusion, what the consequences would be of recognizing a fetus as a human being before it leaves the womb.

Aside from the obvious consequences regarding the availability of abortions in Canada, other individuals, those in a coma or people who “haven’t reached the age of reason,” might also be affected by any changes to the law, Woodworth noted.

The Conservative government, mindful of responses from opposition parties and Canadians, was swift to issue a press release stating it has no plans to reopen the contentious debate.

"Private Members motions are considered in accordance with the rules of Parliament. The Prime Minister has been very clear, our Government will not reopen this debate,” Justice Minister Rob Nicholson stated in a press release in reaction to Woodworth’s motion.

Public Works Minister Rona Ambrose told MPs in the House of Commons, that this was an issue that people would probably continue to debate but the Prime Minister had said it “very clearly that we have no interest in this debate.”

If Canadians realized their country has a 400-year-old law that doesn’t recognize life before a baby’s “little toes” come out of its mother, Woodworth suggested, they wouldn’t be scared to engage in a debate.

Woodworth would not say when he thinks life begins but The Campaign Life Coalition which came out in support of his motion, said was clear to them that scientific evidence shows “life begins at conception.”

The Kitchener MP said he believes, however, that “children are human beings for quite a considerable period of time prior to the moment of birth." He readily acknowledged some people don’t wish to change Canada’s laws but said he hoped his motion would get people thinking about the issue.

Woodworth be successful in forcing a debate on the question of abortion but that would be about it, Liberal interim leader Bob Rae predicted.

“I feel there will be a good majority of the House that will vote against such a motion,” Rae said.

Previous efforts by Conservative backbench MPs Ken Epp and Rob Bruinooge to bring in right-to-life legislation failed during the minority Harper governments despite having sizeable support from the Tory backbench.

Woodworth acknowledged his motion may not pass, but he noted that private member’s motions are most often “free” votes with MPs acting without instruction from party leadership.

“In our party, we have a policy which says that private member’s business on matters of conscience should not be wiped,” Woodworth added.

Even if the motion fails, Woodworth's desire to have a national conversation on the issue of when life begins will be realized. His motion will get two hours of study in Parliament.

It could be up for discussion sometime in March and debated for a second time and voted on before MPs head home for their summer break.

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11:01 AM on 02/09/2012
Abortion is the killing of _______. A) a bunch of cells B) an embryo C) a human being D) all of the above. If you were in Biology class, even a hard-heart­ed biology professor would have to answer D. Four decades of sanctioned killing of human life has de-sensiti­zed us. It is a legitimate question and yes, it may lead to the correction of legalized evil that has pervaded our country. Even toddlers know ultrasound images of fetuses represent living human babies. Oh the truth hurts, but the truth is the truth, and if you can't deal with it, then you are convenient­ly burying your head in the sand and turning a blind's eye to the evil it is. Women are truly free when they and the rest of society accept their dignity as bearers of the human race, not killers of it.
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04:35 PM on 02/11/2012
Embryos are not babies. Fetuses are not babies. You are not a woman.
Who is evil again?
01:35 PM on 02/12/2012
Not sure I understand your comment (YankeeCanuck)... Did I say embryos were babies? I am making the point that they are human. Not sure what my gender has to do with that point. Taking of an innocent human life is evil.
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Capital Ottawa
11:43 AM on 02/07/2012
I applaud Conservative MP Woodworth for bringing forward this abortion motion. There are a great number of Conservative MP's who were elected by "prolife" supporters to address this issue. I encourage all Conservative MP's to put forth private member bills and motions on their voters behalf, carry out what they were elected to do.

Harper can only keep his MP's on a leash for so long, in time Canada will see what the intentions of the Conservative party are. Perhaps next election we will have a better voter turnout.
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All Seeing Guy
Center of the storm
09:02 PM on 02/08/2012
"I encourage all Conservati­ve MP's to put forth private member bills and motions on their voters behalf, carry out what they were elected to do. "

Yeah....that's probably not gonna happen.
10:41 AM on 02/07/2012
I would bet $1000 that the "special committee" will include at least one evangelical pastor with no medical background whatsoever.
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All Seeing Guy
Center of the storm
09:02 PM on 02/08/2012
Will he be testifying on the proper way to diddle an alterboy?
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montezaro
10:02 AM on 02/07/2012
You can talk about vasectomy. Live the abortion debate to your wife.
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AlisonCarnie
I am unique ... just like everyone else
08:20 AM on 02/07/2012
It isn't your uterus ...

it isn't your choice.
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CanadianSkeptic
Amazingly, thinking can solve most problems
09:08 AM on 02/07/2012
As simply and clearly put as I have ever heard. Thank you.
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
07:09 AM on 02/07/2012
Please NDP and Liberals... merge so Canadians don't have to put up with this anymore. Bury the hatchet for the sake of the country not your petty quabbles
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nete peedham
10:48 AM on 02/07/2012
It doesn't matter...because the cons got a majority over the opposition combined. Corporations own the media, so an NDP message doesn't get out. The Bay Street liberals parachuted Iggy in from Hahvahd, where he championed the Iraq war.
One has to have something to vote FOR.
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Imma Okay
12:40 AM on 02/08/2012
Don't despair! The conservatives won with a minority, and would lose if the elections were held today!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/where-federal-parties-stand-in-early-january-2012/article2291005/
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06:45 AM on 02/07/2012
Why don't we just hang a noose in every uterus?
Let the fetus decide if it wants to suffer 9 months of imprisonment.
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Frnkndad
06:33 AM on 02/07/2012
Yet another MP that needs to be shut down and defeated in the next election
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Dennis Schmunk
05:37 AM on 02/07/2012
We might hope that Woodwarth is sincerely hoping to understand the nature of being and takes a journey to see the Dalai Llama or somesuch but it's far more likely that he intends to engage in dualist dogma. Another us versus them diatribe is not well intentioned philosophical debate and MPs are rarely the source of a real paradigm shift in thinking.
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Add In Canadia
Egotism is a weakness
04:01 AM on 02/07/2012
Meh, I'll pay more attention to it when it's not a back-benching private members bill. and the Conservative party actually endorses it.
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toofarleft4thisworld
The Right Is So Wrong
06:45 AM on 02/07/2012
this is the trial balloon. if we don't kick back now and he gets a second majority...watch out.
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Spanky McFarlane
ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM.
01:19 AM on 02/07/2012
I use to think it was an intrusion by the State when I was ordered as part of my job to have a flu shot.

I can't imagine what it would be like to be ordered to have a baby.....Oh wait, with this Regime in power maybe I can?
12:41 AM on 02/07/2012
Canada is still experiencing the fall out from the largest recession since the great depression in Sept. 2008, huge unemployment, issues regarding old age pension, issues of the environment and oil sands pipelines and this guy wants to re-open an abortion issue? Where is this man's head? What is it MPs think they are doig in Ottawa. Fire this guy right out of caucus.
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05:23 AM on 02/07/2012
Maybe he just likes the attention.??? I guess he's not happy with 7 billion people on the planet, he wants to add a huge population of unwanted- possibly ward raised- children, what a greeeat idea!
12:44 PM on 02/08/2012
One less tan
11:34 PM on 02/06/2012
Don't look at me, I voted Liberal. Harper has a secret agenda that will set this country back so far, that Sir John A. will come out of his grave and punch him.
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06:46 AM on 02/07/2012
Sir John A legalized unions in Canada. he's already rolling over in his grave.
11:26 PM on 02/06/2012
Stephen Woodworth for prime minister! i feel the problem of most concern with abortion procedures is that largely the man does not get a choice in the matter. I will note that some woman are forced into abortion by others, so i don't receive a vast amount of hate mail. I think that the father should have some say in it as well. I would not want to stereotype, however, i am not sure if I can count the number of times girls i know have aborted by vengeance. perhaps others have had similar or contrasting experiences. please feel free to let us all know kindly.
11:38 PM on 02/06/2012
Sure, I agree. If I become pregnant, and I dont wish to carry to term, the father can do it. Oh, wait, I guess that isn't possible. I guess it really IS up to the woman, isn't it.
Dinsdale Pirahna
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11:58 PM on 02/06/2012
Faved by mistake. Let me ask? You said, "...i am not sure if I can count the number of times girls i know have aborted by vengeance...". You must know a lot of pregnant girls or you can't count very high. So let me get this straight, you would prefer she kept the "fetus" and brought the baby into an unloving relationship or become a single parent? Sounds reasonable. So when your Prime Minister Stephen Woodworth gets into power you would have no problems asking that your tax dollars go to raise it. Good for you. And so she can get a job you're going to let him know you would also like him to pony up some money for daycare too. Well good for you! Hey wait a minute... you aren't a Tory after all.
11:09 PM on 02/06/2012
This will be useful when I petition the court to let me start receiving my old age pension nine months early.