The ghost of elections past is coming back to haunt Stephen Harper.
The Liberals are pointing out that when Harper campaigned against Liberal prime minister Paul Martin in 2005, he promised he would defend seniors' public pensions.
In a speech to seniors in Guelph on December 9, 2005, Harper said seniors, like his mother, had worked for years to pay into the public pension system and that they expected it to be there for them.
“My government will fully preserve the Old Age Security (OAS), the Guaranteed Income Supplement and the Canada Pension Plan, and all projected future increases to these programs. And we will build on those commitments," Harper promised before winning the election in 2006. You can see video from the speech below.
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has argued that OAS changes are necessary to protect the fiscal health of the government moving forward. But he has been contradicted by budget watchdog Kevin Page, who earlier this week denied that there is a public pensions crisis. Flaherty characterized Page as "unbelievable, unreliable, incredible" in response to the Parliamentary Budget Officer's comments.
The good news is that while OAS may be headed for major change, the Canada Pension Plan (CPP) appears to be in good shape. Harper recently described CPP as "actuarially sound.”
If you want to learn more about the differences between OAS and CPP, check out the slideshow below.
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OAS vs CPP
Here is a look at OAS and the CPP and how they differ. (Getty)
<em>With files from CBC</em>
What is OAS?
The Old Age Security pension is a monthly payment available to Canadians aged 65 and older who apply and meet certain requirements. Unlike CPP, it is not dependent on a person's employment history and a person does not need to be retired from a job to qualify.
The government adjusts the OAS payment every three months to account for increases in the cost of living according to the Consumer Price Index. The average monthly amount was $508.35 in the last quarter of 2011. The maximum payout for the first quarter of 2012 is $540.12.
There are also supplementary programs, including the Guaranteed Income Supplement, which provide additional income to low-income seniors.
The government claws back OAS payments from high-income Canadians. In 2011, for example, if you were retired but had an income of more than $67,668 (from things like pensions and personal investments), the government would reclaim part of your OAS payment - 15 cents for every dollar of income that you had above the $67,668 threshold. That means that if you were retired with an annual income of around $110,000 or more in 2011, your OAS payout would be reduced to zero. (alamy)
Who Is Eligible?
OAS is available to Canadian citizens and legal residents living in the country who have spent at least 10 years in Canada after they turned 18.
It is also open to people outside of the country who were Canadian citizens or legal residents on the day they left the country, as long as they spent at least 20 years of their adult life in Canada. (Getty)
When Should You Apply?
A person should apply for OAS six months before they turn 65. If you have not lived in Canada continuously or were not born in Canada, the government requires a statement containing all the dates when you entered and left the country. It may also ask for supporting documentation.
If a person applies after age 65, they can receive up to 11 months in retroactive payments along with a payout for the month in which a person applies to receive OAS. So if a person applied after their 66th birthday, they would receive 12 months of OAS payments. (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/elwillo/" target="_hplink">Flickr:Keith Williamson</a>)
How Is The Rate Calculated?
In order to qualify for a full pension, a person must have lived in Canada for at least 40 years after turning 18. People also qualify if they reached the age of 25 on or before July 1, 1977, and either lived in Canada, had some residency in the country after age 18, or held a valid Canadian immigration visa and spent the 10 years immediately before appying in Canada.
For those who do not qualify for a full pension, a partial amount is paid out based on the number of years spent living in Canada. For instance, if a person has spent 36 years of their adult life in the country, they will earn 36/40th of the full OAS amount.
Based on the eligibilty requirements, the minimum payout is one-quarter of the total, to account for a total of 10 years spent in Canada.
Once a partial pension has been approved, the percentage of the total OAS pension received will never increase even if a person spends more years in Canada. (Matt Cardy/Getty Images)
What Is CPP?
The Canada Pension Plan is a form of retirement income that is open to all Canadians who have worked and paid into the system through deductions from their paycheques. The amount a person receives under the system depends on how much and for how long a person contributed, along with the age at which a person started receiving CPP payments.
There are three types of CPP benefits: disability benefits, retirement pension and survivor benefits. For the purposes of clarity, this article focuses on retirement pension form of CPP.
The average monthly CPP benefit in 2011 was $512.64. The maximum payment in 2012 is $987.67. The government adjusts the CPP rate every January to account for changes in cost of living as measured by the Consumer Price Index.
According to Service Canada, "If you have lived and worked in Canada most years between age 18 and 65 and earned about the average Canadian wage ($39,100 in 2002), at age 65 you would receive a CPP retirement pension of about $788 a month." (Getty)
Who Is Eligible?
Anyone who has made a payment to CPP is eligible for full retirement pension benefits once they reach the age of 65.
A person can begin receiving CPP anytime after age 60 if they stop working or reduce their income, although they incur a financial penalty by doing so. In 2012, a person receiving CPP early will be subject to a 0.52 per cent reduction for each month before the age of 65 that they received payments. That number is slated to rise to 0.6 per cent each month in 2016.
On the other hand, if a person chooses to delay CPP payments they receive a similar increase for each month they wait between the age of 65 and 70. In 2012, that increase works out to 0.64 per cent per month and will rise to 0.7 per cent next year. (alamy)
When Should You Apply?
This is really up to the individual and whether they want to receive a smaller or larger CPP benefit. However, the government recommends applying six months before a person wants their pension to begin.
Canadians can apply online or print out an application and deliver it to a Service Canada location.
Similar to OAS, a person can receive retroactive payments covering up to 12 months if they delay applying for CPP until after their 71st birthday. (alamy)
How Much Do I Contribute To CPP?
A person contributes 4.95 per cent of of their total pensionable income -- set at a maximum of $50,100 in 2012 -- to a total of $2,306.70 in contributions per year. Their employer contributes an equivalent amount. Self-employed people, on the other hand, must contribute both portions.
Anyone earning less than $3,500 is automatically exempt from CPP contributions.
At age 70, a person stops contributing to CPP even if they continue working. (alamy)
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You can tell by the amount Harper stumbles in the first video above that he knew he was full of BS. Uh, blah, um, ugh... he might as well of just said 'I'm lying to you right now."
Kris_Dubuque: You can tell by the amount Harper stumbles in the
No one has mentioned 'slashing' anything, it's all supposition and what ifs based on hysteria and rhetoric. Good political theatre to be brought up repeatedly, even when nothing is done especially when an election rolls around. People seem to forget about Paul Martin's (Liberal) proposal to completely gut OAS, first they were for it, now they are not. hmmmm hypocrites.
Winnie_Frank: No one has mentioned 'slashing' anything, it's all supposition and
if he gets away with slashing the Old Age Security the CPP and programs will be next in the cross just as sure as there is cr ap in a barnyard. The "secret agenda" myth is a myth no more.
Canuckview: if he gets away with slashing the Old Age Security
Does Canada Pension Plan receive any government money? I don't think so. It is a public savings programme for retirement and is fuly funded by the particip[ants. I am of the impression only the workers and employers fund the programme and it was tweaked a few years ago when people were saying it was going broke. Now it is healthy for a long time into the future. I don't think the government can do much to CPP.
greysells2: Does Canada Pension Plan receive any government money? I don't
canobserv: OAS isn't suffering either... http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sustainable+under+current+rules+says+budget+watchdog/6122090/story.html there was nothing wrong with
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My government will fully preserve the Old Age Security (OAS), the Guaranteed Income Supplement and the Canada Pension Plan, and all projected future increases to these programs
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remember this lie my fellow soon to be OAS recipients
come next election, let's make him pay for his lies
bogey1: -- My government will fully preserve the Old Age Security
I'd be extremely upset if this was an attack on CPP. Especially since I will be among the people who will be retiring in the 2020-2025 timeframe. But a clawback on OAS starting at $60K or so is not the end of the world. On a sliding scale, most people will barely be touched by it.
BentleysPal: I'd be extremely upset if this was an attack on
The claw back now goes from from $60k to $105k. The top bracket of the clawback of the OAS could be dropped to 90k and that would accelerate the claw back from wealthier seniors. I get clawed back now and would go along with some revisions to the clawback regulations in the interests of social justice. I propose $55k to $90k. 55k is the point the claw back starts and accelerates gradually to $90k where all of the OAS is clawed back. Don't forget that money clawed back cannot be taxed so the clawback eases the tax burden slightly. Its not all that bad.for those of us lucky enough to have a little more retirement income than others.
greysells2: The claw back now goes from from $60k to $105k.
The people of Guelph know what Harper is all about-- that's why we re-elected our Liberal MP, Frank Valeriote. The ridings surrounding Guelph are no longer sure things for Harper. It was Ontario who gave the Cons a majority government-- we won't be fooled again.
rickthaluddite: The people of Guelph know what Harper is all about--
Harper is pandering to the Americans on the F-35 procurement. He made a stupid decision initially under undue influence and now he is doubling down now that the costs are out of control.
greysells2: Harper is pandering to the Americans on the F-35 procurement.
Now Harper will force in future 65 year old disabled person scraping away on welfare as cpp-disability does not continue after 65 ( if she qualifies). What is the cost associated with this? The debt to me will just gets transferred to provincial gov't and nothing will be saved in taxes.
katakwi: Now Harper will force in future 65 year old disabled
That's how Flaherty operates. Here's one piece of anecdotal evidence-- property tax on my parents' house went from $1100 to more than $4000 in the 5 years after the PC budgets (overseen by Flaherty) downloaded costs to Regional, Count, and Municipal governments. Contrast road maps of Ontario from 1990 and today. We have a lot more county roads that used to be provincial highways. It reflects poorly on someone who's now spending $7.5 to fete the Queen's Diamond Jubilee that there aren't more Queen's Highway insignia on our roads if Her Royal Highness chooses to tour our beautiful province. Shame on you Jim Flaherty!
rickthaluddite: That's how Flaherty operates. Here's one piece of anecdotal evidence--
Right now OAS taps government revenue to the tune of 36.5 billion a year
By 2015 it will be 48 billion a year
By 2030 (peak) it will be 108 billion a year with over 9.3 million seniors elligible.
Today there is around 33 million Canadians.
Statistics Canada forcasts our population in 2030 to be around 38 million.
If you look around and see Greece floundering and threatening the global financial system its easy to imagine some lean years in our future.
Our friend Mr Page would have us believe that everythings gonna be just fine.
Our growth will continue at the projected rates because.....well...it always has.
If it doesn't....well governments can be flexible when it comes to allocating our tax dollars.
A little less for healthcare, a little less for education, shave a little off transfer payments, you get the idea.
Mr Harper would rather have a plan going forward.
I'm cool with that.
As for the flipflop lie thing......
A lot has changed since 2005.
Right?
lol
Warren_Yuill: Right now OAS taps government revenue to the tune of
Every economist in the western hemisphere acknowledges the neccessity of adding liquidity to bolster an lagging economy.
He did.
It worked.
We're all still here.
Warren_Yuill: Every economist in the western hemisphere acknowledges the neccessity of
If they were truly worried about the budget, those planes would be scrapped and given to a bidder who is not in cohorts with the tories. We would also scrap those prisons that statistics clearly show are not necessary. There are ways to save money without having to touch OAC, but Harper wants the same seniors who blindly voted him in to pay for his pet projects. Classy...
pjlowry: If they were truly worried about the budget, those planes
Wow...has any of these pledges been honored or implemented?
Where's this seniors council? What was their input into policy? What did they say to the minister? What about denying the same pension deal they got to future seniors when no rational or crisis exists to justify the raid?
BCSLAVE: Wow...has any of these pledges been honored or implemented? Where's
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