Iceland Canadian Dollar: Ottawa Nixes Speech Approving Iceland's Adoption Of The Loonie

The Huffington Post Canada   First Posted: 03/ 2/2012 1:34 pm Updated: 03/ 4/2012 12:13 pm

UPDATE: The government of Canada is backing away from a proposal for Iceland to adopt the Canadian dollar, cancelling a speech by a diplomat that would have announced Ottawa is not opposed to the idea.

Once we got wind of [the speech] and it went through the approval channels, we decided it was not an appropriate venue,” Joseph Lavoie, press secretary to Foreign Minister John Baird, told the Globe and Mail. “It’s a political event. So that the decision was made that it’s not an appropriate event for him to speak at . . . While he may have thought about delivering those remarks, those remarks won’t be delivered.”

A Canadian official told the Wall Street Journal that Ottawa is "not endorsing" a proposal popular within Iceland’s opposition Progressive Party to have Iceland replace its struggling krona with the loonie.

The party has opposed Iceland’s bid to join the European Union, and proposed switching to the Canadian dollar as a way to stabilize its economy without tying itself to the struggling euro area. Popular support for joining the EU and the euro has dropped sharply in Iceland, in the wake of the Greek debt crisis. However, talks to enter the European Union continue under the ruling Social Democratic Alliance party.

In a blog posting Sunday, Carleton University economist Nicholas Rowe suggested Icelandic adoption of the Canadian dollar could end up costing Canada money, if the Bank of Canada is expected to act as a "lender of last resort" to Iceland should another economic crisis hit the country.

Iceland can use the Canadian dollar if it so wishes, Canada’s ambassador to the country is expected to say Saturday.

According to a report in the Globe and Mail, Alan Bones is expected to give a speech to Iceland’s opposition Progressive Party announcing that Canada won’t object to Iceland unilaterally deciding to use the loonie -- so long as the Nordic country is aware of the risks.

Economists in Iceland suggested last summer that the country could stabilize its economy by adopting the Canadian dollar.

Iceland’s economy suffered a crushing blow in 2008 when its banking sector went bust, causing its currency to collapse. The krona lost about 60 per cent of its value and has not recovered. To stabilize the economy, the government instituted currency controls that prevent anyone from taking more than the equivalent of $3,000 out of the country.

That has made Iceland an unattractive place for foreign investors. The currency controls are slated to come down, but many Icelandic economists worry that will mean a return to economic instability. Some of them have suggested simply replacing the Icelandic krona with another, more stable, currency.

In a recent poll, some 70 per cent of Icelanders said they would favour dropping the krona in favour of a foreign currency, and the Canadian dollar was the most preferred option, the Globe and Mail reports.

Canada’s currency has developed a very positive reputation around the world, thanks to its solid run-up in value in recent years -- largely due to energy exports -- and due to the perception that Canada avoided the financial crisis that hit banks in the U.S., U.K. and elsewhere.

For Canada, having Iceland use the loonie would likely have little effect. Canada’s economy was valued at $1.8 trillion in 2011, while Iceland, with a population of around 315,000, had an economy of around $14 billion. Canadian policymakers would barely have to take into account Iceland’s use of the loonie when setting policy.

The Bank of Canada reflected this reality when it previously said it had no problem with Iceland adopting the Canadian dollar.

But it’s for that same reason that Canada’s ambassador to Iceland is expected to warn Icelanders that adopting the loonie can come with risks.

As the Greek debt crisis has shown, countries can suffer serious economic difficulties when they can’t control their own monetary policy. Many economists argue Greece would have had a much easier time bringing itself out of a debt crisis if it had been able to devalue its own currency, essentially shrinking away its debt. But because Greece uses the euro, whose policies are made at the European Central Bank in Frankfurt, that was not an option.

Iceland may face similar problems if it chooses to adopt the loonie. If Canada sets its interest rate too high or too low for Iceland’s economic conditions, it could cause economic distortions such as recession or excessive inflation.

For Icelanders, however, fear of a return to the instability of 2008 may be a more pressing issue, and there may be another factor -- a romantic view of Canada and its economy.

“The average person looks at it this way: Canada is a younger version of the U.S. Canada has more natural resources than the U.S., it’s less developed, has more land, lots of water,” economist Heidar Gudjonsson of the Research Center for Social and Economic Studies told the Globe. “And Canada thinks about the Arctic.”

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06:24 AM on 05/17/2012
thanks for this wonderful blog post,, i like this post alot..
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12:03 PM on 03/05/2012
Iceland is the smallest country in the world that uses its own currency. It makes sense for them to adopt another currency. That they want to use Canada's loonie is flattering. Let's hope the mandarins in Ottawa don't screw this up like they did when Turks and Caicos wanted to become a province of Canada.
08:11 PM on 03/04/2012
All joking aside, why would anyone think that Iceland would ever allow itself to be annexed? They only ditched the Danes a scant seventy years ago.
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
02:15 AM on 03/05/2012
How are they being annexed?
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
08:39 AM on 03/05/2012
Only in the speculative ravings of Canadian imperialists which you'll find farther down this thread.
06:25 PM on 03/04/2012
Actually this article is somewhat misleading as Iceland recovered well from the disaster by telling the foriegn banking interests to go piss off. They took control of thier own economy and have done well. In fact Canada could learn a few lessons. Here's one example of better press on this. And as long as Harper is in Canada they would be well advised to stay away.
http://www.businessinsider.com/another-awesome-fact-from-icelands-banking-recovery-2012-2?nr_email_referer=1
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
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laymancanuck
IGNORANCE has used up its quota of TOLERANCE
02:06 PM on 03/04/2012
Canadian imperialism: seducing countries with our strong currency,stabile economy, and high quality of life.
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Vik Dhawan
05:08 PM on 03/04/2012
IF only they would take the Turks and Caicos as a part of Nova Scotia
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wallinmark
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07:17 AM on 03/05/2012
Vik I googled those islands , they are only for the rich ,upper middle and filthy rich , I dought if we could afford to stay there .Offshore Banks ??
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CanuckistanCommie
I ain't no Commie but Pat Buchanan thinks so!
12:49 PM on 03/04/2012
Maybe with closer ties to Iceland we could work to lure Greenland into the Canadian fold.
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01:27 PM on 03/04/2012
Hey, why not? What to do they are closer to us than Denmark!
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
08:08 PM on 03/04/2012
They ARE Denmark......as much as Ellesmere Island is Canada; only self-governing. Really an equivalent to Nunavut. Kala'alit Nunavit of Nunavaat, not sure its name in Inuktitun or whatever the proper language-name is.

Iceland is no longer part of the Kingdom of Denmark, but was until the start of the 20th Century.

Given how aboriginal peoples are treated in Canada, I frankly can't see why Greenlanders would want to have anything to do with us......

Iceland's a bit different; there's more resettled Icelanders in Canada than anywhere else in the world, I think, the huge bulk of them in Manitoba; very much part of the historical root-stock of Western settlement.
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Gathled
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12:35 PM on 03/04/2012
How about the Twoonie? The Queen with a bear bottom...
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canucklehead
12:24 PM on 03/04/2012
Alternatively, they could join us as the 4th territory. Expand the DOMINION!
12:27 PM on 03/04/2012
Except they would be the third... because Nunavut is officially a province now :-)
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Opus Fideo
Atheist. Social Democrat. Canadian.
01:44 PM on 03/04/2012
um... since when?
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canucklehead
03:37 PM on 03/04/2012
Still a province. Population is only 32k.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
08:11 PM on 03/04/2012
I doubt the Icelandic Commonwealth would want to have a monarch again; they're pretty proud of their medieval republic, which is one reason why they shucked off their old constitution (a copy of Denmark's just as the BNA is an attempt to put the unwritten British constitution into print) and wrote a new one.

Might be good for Canada's ego (always in need of stroking) but I think most Icelanders would take a dim view of actually becoming part of Canada. And we'd have another minority language situation, and they'd fight the introduction of French and English as official languages because they're busy protecting their own.
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Poster999
A promise made is a debt unpaid.
08:35 PM on 03/04/2012
Canada has enough problems with separation factions, we have enough trouble holding what we have together.
12:19 PM on 03/04/2012
Harper forgot toget the approval of the USA once he gets that he will approve the use of the Loonie in a snap but this government doesn't blink unless Uncle Sam tells it to.
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Rayma Allaby
11:45 AM on 03/04/2012
this could be shortsighted..what did harpo get a call from his us politcal masters.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
11:17 AM on 03/04/2012
This thought is just a muse. Historically the loonie has never ever maintained itself at par or above the American dollar except in the last ten years; being somewhere around 60 cents. Even our own economy struggles to sell manufactured goods beyond our borders. You get what you get or better still you will get what you got.

Here's an exception. ." From the early 1950s until then end of 1960, it traded in a relatively narrow range between US$1.02 and US$1.06.

Read more: http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Specials/20070920/dollar_history_070920/#ixzz1oAJf4e7V
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CanuckistanCommie
I ain't no Commie but Pat Buchanan thinks so!
12:45 PM on 03/04/2012
The higher valued dollar costs Canadian job.
When the dollar was at $1.40 our economy was booming because it was cheaper for foreign nations to buy Canadian.
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gravescanada
06:42 AM on 03/05/2012
But we must protect the profits of the Oil Sands! A strong Canadian Dollar means more money for the Oil Producers!
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Spanky McFarlane
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06:40 AM on 03/03/2012
If they do adopt our 'loonie' I hope the Royal Mint strikes a special coin to commemorate the occasion.
Maybe copy the back of a Icelandic Krone, slap it on a $5 coin & call it& call it the 'Kronie'.

I would also work toward a free trade/ Defense/ clean energy agreement asap.

Cheers Iceland, long may your big jib draw!
12:39 AM on 03/03/2012
Crazy. That Iceland has its own currency is the reason why it isn't being destroyed with internal devaluation. Alternatively, it can default should it use a foreign currency. The thing that saved Iceland and they want to give it up? Stupid beyond belief.
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11:19 AM on 03/04/2012
Iceland’s economy suffered a crushing blow in 2008 when its banking sector went bust, causing its currency to collapse. The krona lost about 60 per cent of its value and has not recovered. To stabilize the economy, the government instituted currency controls that prevent anyone from taking more than the equivalent of $3,000 out of the country.
12:02 PM on 03/04/2012
With a 60% devaluation that spares them the horrors of what the Greeks are being told to do, and that's reduce prices by 60% without devaluing the currency. That means engineering deflation by causing a massive depression with vastly increased unemployment, poverty, and this is causing thousands of premature deaths. The krona has much to do with Iceland avoiding this fate.
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efell
Careful with that axe, Eugene
10:14 PM on 03/02/2012
Enjoy. It is truly a wonderful coin. Cheers
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
09:55 PM on 03/02/2012
On the news Jim Balsillie was immediately declined an NHL franchise by Gary Bettman... argh
10:37 PM on 03/02/2012
Only smart move Batman has ever made.
10:36 AM on 03/03/2012
Why not have a real HNL team in Southern Ontario?