Canada Budget 2012: Senators Not Happy About Canteen Cuts

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First Posted: 03/28/2012 3:31 pm Updated: 03/29/2012 2:58 pm

OTTAWA -- On the eve of a budget that will deliver deep cuts to the public service, a few Conservative senators are protesting the closure of a tiny subsidized canteen in a building where many of them work.

Conservative Senator David Tkachuk and Liberal Senator George Furey sent a notice to senators and staff Wednesday warning them that, in the interests of “greater fiscal responsibility” the Victoria Building Canteen will be closed permanently this Saturday.

A newly renovated cafeteria in the La Promenade Building, which is four times larger and “easily accessible” through a passageway that connects both buildings can be used instead, the senators suggested.

But their note was met with fierce disapproval by Conservative Senator, and former party president, Donald Plett.

“What a bad, bad idea. The Victoria cafeteria was for the Senators and staff,” he wrote in an email, apparently unwilling to eat with MPs and House of Commons staff.

Conservative Senator Nancy Ruth also responded to the note questioning why senators had not been consulted on other spending decisions.

“So who decided about that stupid slate wall in VB foyer & a Tv that's so high u have to bend your neck. And the winter carpets r the wrong way round. How about asking the users before u waste more $$$,” she wrote.

The Victoria Building is home to several senators’ offices and will now be the only building on the Hill without a canteen or full-service cafeteria.

But it’s far from the only place where senators can purchase subsidized food.

Liberal Senator Jim Munson wrote back, telling his colleagues to get some “perspective here about canteens.”

“We have access to four in the Senate … Losing one is not exactly hardship,” he wrote.

“Let’s not forget the big picture. There is a budget coming down that will affect people’s lives. That’s’where our focus should be.”

The Senate announced Wednesday that it will trim five per cent from its budget over the next three years.

It is shaving off 1.85 per cent next year, leaving it with a $92,215,846 for 2012-2013.

“While Parliament was not obligated to cut costs under the federal government’s Strategic Operating Review, we felt it necessary for the Senate to do its part,” Tkachuk, the chair of the Senate's committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration, said in a news release. “No programs or expenditures were spared during our review,” he added, noting that office, committees, internal administration, caucuses and interparliamentary group budgets would all take a hit. Even the senators’ own “miscellaneous expenditures account” would be decreased.

Over on the House of Commons side, members of Parliament are also tightening their belts.

Joe Comartin, a spokesman for the Board of Internal Economy, an all-party committee that meets in secret to oversee House administration, said spending would decrease by 6.9 per cent — or $30.3 million — over the next three years.

The House's budget for 2011-2012 was $441,648,000.

“There will be some additional job losses, over and beyond attrition,” Comartin told The Huffington Post Canada. Some services will be reduced, he said, noting the there wouldn't be as many little green buses running throughout the day ferrying MPs from their offices, to committees and to the House of Commons.

The House of Commons cuts include a reduction of less than two per cent for MP office budgets, a reduction of nearly 7.5 per cent for the budgets of opposition party leaders and those with senior responsibilities, such as party whips and house leaders as well as the Speaker of the House, and the end of an office equipment replacement fund.

Comartin said the House had also been able to find $4.5 million in savings by buying flight tickets in bulk and by reducing the budgets for parliamentary associations and committee travel.

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  • MP - $157,731

    The base salary for a Member of Parliament is $157,731. Being named to cabinet or other positions nets an MP extra pay. (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/scazon/" target="_hplink">Flickr: Scazon</a>)

  • Government and Opposition Whip - $186,151

    NDP MP Nycole Turmel is the Official Opposition Whip. (CP)

  • Leaders of Other Parties - $211,425

    Bob Rae is the interim leader of the Liberal Party of Canada. (CP)

  • Minister of State - $214,368

    Tim Uppal is the Minister of State for Democratic Reform. Ministers of State are essentially junior cabinet ministers. (CP)

  • Cabinet Minister - $233,247

    Jim Flaherty is Minister of Finance. (CP) All ministers also receive a car allowance of $2,122.

  • Leader of the Opposition - $233,247

    As NDP chief, Thomas Mulair is leader of the Official Opposition. He also receives a $2,122 car allowance. (CP)

  • Speaker of the House - $233,247

    Andrew Scheer is currently serving as speaker. On top of his salary, Scheer receives a rent allowance of $3,000 and a car allowance of $1,061. (CP)

  • Prime Minister - $315,462

    As Prime Minister, Stephen Harper also receives a car allowance of $2,112. (AP)

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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
SeanMartin
Everything in moderation.
08:53 AM on 04/01/2012
Well, you can now expect private delivery boys to be a new growth industry for the Senate, with all charges put against their expense fund. It'll be the Senate's way of providing "job creation" in Canada.
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Juanne Michaud
Proud Canadian, loony lefty
11:32 PM on 03/29/2012
Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

These people make more money and do less work than any other group in the country!

While other people are working harder and getting less for it, these characters have the gall to whine about their lunchroom?

With the money they make, they should be paying 100% for their own lunches and dinners. That's what most of the working people in this country do.
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Eileen Warren
07:38 PM on 03/29/2012
Can I get my grocery bills subsidized and what are their retirement packages like?
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Kris Dubuque
Proudly Progressive
04:31 PM on 03/29/2012
Aw, they're upset about losing their private lunchroom?

Suck it up buttercup. My 53 year old dad just found out that he'll have to work 2 more years to retire, all the while paying taxes so these MPs and unelected Senators can earn a gold-plated indexed pension for life... starting at 55.

These idiots can go pound salt.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
rotary
canucklehead
03:59 PM on 03/29/2012
I'll bet Mike Duffy is having many a sleepless night over this. Canada's senate, what a JOKE.
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All Seeing Guy
Center of the storm
03:38 PM on 03/29/2012
"But their note was met with fierce disapproval by Conservative Senator, and former party president, Donald Plett."

I love the smell of conservative entitlement in the morning.
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Bumpers car
Fish till you die
03:53 PM on 03/29/2012
Yes, I know what you mean. Out here in rural Ontario we have it all day long when the wind is right, or maybe, it's just the cattle. Hard to tell the difference!
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Ansdlmol
03:36 PM on 03/29/2012
If I had my druthers they would be really miffed. They would be out of a job.
02:42 PM on 03/29/2012
At least they did it! I wish Mexican senators would make a move like that instead they earn more than most Canadian MP's and American senators. So sad.
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darksideofthespoon
what we think we become
02:27 PM on 03/29/2012
Oh no :( What ever will they do?!
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Liz Wilson 2
“a small group can change the world
04:50 PM on 03/29/2012
pack lunch maybe if the walk to the next subsidized canteen is to far... Hay maybe we could buy them golfcarts to zoom around the building.
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Dale Chan
Hope is both panacea and poison.
01:46 PM on 03/29/2012
Our so called leaders pull down six figure salaries and generous pensions, all paid for by us, in a time when a Toronto factory worker makes less than his counter part did in the 70s. These people are not leaders. They pass legislation which targets the rights of the working man, they demand we make sacrifices by cutting funding to services which serve us the people, but they are unwilling to make even the smallest of sacrifices. Our "leaders" put their well being before the well being of those in their charge.

Demand change, demand that they make sacrifices, or demand that they get out.
12:43 PM on 03/29/2012
Boo. Hoo.

If you're going to ask people to do some belt-tightening, it's only right to start with your own. (perhaps literally in this case.)
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Poster999
A promise made is a debt unpaid.
11:09 AM on 03/29/2012
People are about to loose their jobs and these clowns are complaining about losing their cafeteria with subsidized food no less. Why the heck are tax payers subsidizing food for overpaid Senators in the first place? Of course they have three other subsidized cafeterias near by but you know, when your used to sitting in a particular place, it's hard to change and besides who wants to sit with the riff raff from the House of Commons. I mean we are talking COMMONS here, as in common people, what are the guys at the country club going to say. Sure hope they have the subsidized Gray Poupon for when they have their subsidized hot dog, I mean have a heart eh.
09:37 AM on 03/29/2012
If Senator Nancy Ruth doesn't like it, she can always retire from the senate, then she will only have to walk as far as her kitchen, which should be very close and convenient in her house. Oh, I forgot her food would not be subsidized then...poor thing.

And, who is Nancy Ruth????? Why does she deserve to be a senator.
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darksideofthespoon
what we think we become
02:28 PM on 03/29/2012
Her spelling certainly leaves me wondering the same question.
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Liz Wilson 2
“a small group can change the world
09:30 AM on 03/29/2012
Finding things to rant about in this report is just too easy... like shooting fish in a barrel (which really sounds like a tory sports idea).

I like that the originial announcement was made by a grit and a tory - appears non-partisan
I am pretty impressed that a senator Jim Munson defended the decision and suggested a big picture look - sober thought approach is, after all, supposed to be the hallmark of the senate.

Somehow not surprised that a tory senator Plett - argues for an exclusive - closed door - out of the public eye, sort of place for the senators and their staff. - That pretty well describes the attitude that the conservative government - behind closed doors, controled information, lack of transparency, lack of accountibility....

Senator Nancy Ruth, comes out with all of the sound and fury worthy of Baird - Senator Ruth - who is best remembered for her advice to women's groups - telling them to shut up or face more cuts...

[Nancy Ruth] is but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing." .......................................Shakespear.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
09:28 AM on 03/29/2012
They seem to have no problem with stagnation wages for Canadian workers, but god forbid they have to give up some of those entitlements that they have given themselves. Fire the lot of them, start from scratch!