Jim Doak, Asset Manager, Compares Tax Hike On The Rich To Ethnic Cleansing

The Huffington Post Canada  |  By Posted: 04/10/2012 7:50 pm Updated: 04/10/2012 8:29 pm

A recent study finds Canadians are willing to endure tax hikes if it means saving the country’s social safety net.

But, of course, not everyone agrees. Then again, not everyone feels as strongly opposed to the idea as Jim Doak, either.

In a debate on CTV Monday, the president and managing director of Megantic Asset Management compared Ontario NDP Leader Andrea Horwath’s proposal for a tax hike on the rich to ethnic cleansing.

“It’s nasty. It’s ethnic cleansing,” Doak said, referring to the NDP’s demand for a two percentage point increase in the provincial income tax for people earning more than $500,000, as a way to close Ontario’s large budget deficit.

“She’s defining a group not by culture or language, but by how much money they make, and she wants to get rid of them,” Doak added.

A voice could be heard laughing off camera when he made the remark.

Watch the video here.

Doak was appearing in a debate against Armine Yalnizyan, senior economist for the progressive Centre for Canadian Policy Alternatives.

As an Armenian it was a stunning comment to hear as his opening defence, and incredibly challenging to avoid commenting on,” Yalnizyan tweeted Tuesday.

Doak’s argument boiled down to the idea that financial services firms will leave Ontario if their highest-earning employees and clients were to pay higher income taxes.

“Why don’t you say goodbye to the financial services industry, which provides 150,000 jobs in downtown toronto, high paying jobs, because those will go right away,” Doak argued.

Doak’s estimate of the number of people employed in financial services in Toronto seemed to be on the right scale, although only a small percentage of them have anything to fear from a tax on income above $500,000.

For her part, Yalnizyan argued that opposition to tax hikes on the rich amounted to the wealthiest Ontarians attempting to avoid their share of the burden posed by the government's austerity measures.

“The people Ms. Horwath is talking about taxing did the best ... in the decade before the [budget] crisis, and now they’re being asked to pitch in just like people on welfare, the disabled, who are literally having food taken out of their mouth,” Yalmizian, a Huffington Post contributor, said during the debate.

The Ontario NDP released a platform last week outlining what it would take for the minority Liberal government to gain its support on the budget. The plan included a proposal to increase the provincial income tax rate from 11.6 per cent to 13.16 per cent.

The NDP’s list of demands also includes removing the HST from home heating bills, saving 4,000 child care spaces from cuts and a “modest” increase to the Ontario Disability Support Program, which the Liberal budget would see frozen for a year.

According to a profile at Bloomberg Businessweek, aside from running Megantic Asset Management, Doak is also a member of the board of Khan Resources, and is president of the Toronto chapter of the Alliance Francaise.

Denise Balkissoon, who writes for the blog Ethnic Aisle, which first flagged Doak's comments, Tweeted that complaints about Doak's remarks have been filed with the CFA Institute, a financial consultancy industry group. The Huffington Post was not immediately able to verify that.

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A recent study finds Canadians are willing to endure tax hikes if it means saving the country’s social safety net. But, of course, not everyone agrees. Then again, not everyone feels as strongly...
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10:26 PM on 04/14/2012
The world is filled with two kinds of people. Predators, and Prey. Doak and his ilk are predators. We're keeping our money and if you try and take it with higher taxes, we'll leave... What a weasel. What an empty threat. My guess is Doak was the spoiled kid who picked up his ball and went home when the game wasn't going his way. Aside from being manifestly greedy, what really makes me sick is his indignation at being asked to contribute more to a society that has been very good to him. As for the argument about people in Toronto's financial services sector having worked hard for what they have.... Ah yeah, my guess is most of them probably didn't grow up in tenement housing at Jane and Finch or Regent Park. The vast majority of these people started on third base. It's not that far a walk to home plate.
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02:32 PM on 04/13/2012
This type of heartless behavior is the reason the masses guillotined the rich during the French Revolution.

I'm not inciting violence towards the rich but I'm pretty sure someday soon the masses will if this current trend doesn't reverse.

Time for the elites to eat some humble pie.
02:53 PM on 04/13/2012
Despite the fact that you say you not inciting violence towards the rich, it's curious that you mention the rich being guillotined. Not exactly a pacifist comment now, is it? The people who are smart enough to earn a good, legal living are in no way culpable of anything other than achieving a lot and have nothing to feel bad about other than perhaps paying disproportionately to support those who take more out of the system than they contribute. I wonder if you might be in the latter group for it appears you're not in the former.
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04:41 PM on 04/11/2012
I'm reading the book "The Great American Stick-Up" , it really explains the economic downturn in the US and how the greedy rich fueled the problem.
05:29 PM on 04/11/2012
And, for balance, does the book discuss how the greedy rich are paying the taxes to keep Obama's promises from short-circuiting the recovery?
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06:20 PM on 04/11/2012
For balance it speaks about how the Clinton administration carried on the deregulation fever that Reagan started and that Bush sr. helped along. It does speak about how many of the officials from the Clinton era were relied upon in the Obama White House, I don't agree with it and I don't understand why. The most appalling thing to me was the collusion between Wendy Gramm and her husband Phil, one in the White House administration for Reagan and the other a Republican Senator, carrying out the wishes of Big Business and, how Wendy Gramm benefitted from the deregulation she instituted when she was on the board of Enron!
03:47 PM on 04/11/2012
as we've said all my life THE RICH GET RICHER ,most of us worked all our lives for a small pension ,did what was right for our family and kids now what 50years for this .???the few that make this kind of money should be paying more ,and forget the production jobs have gone elsewhere no job no tax ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
05:31 PM on 04/11/2012
Why would you decide for others how much they should pay? How would you feel if others decided for you that you ought to pay more, whether or not you could, and whether or not you thought that was fair?
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10:32 PM on 04/11/2012
Generally most adults are good at recognizing fairness and things that are not fair. Taxation should be fair!!!!!!!
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07:18 PM on 04/12/2012
That is how it is done. Where have you been?
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YankinCanada
Two opposing idealogues walk into a liberal bar...
02:59 PM on 04/11/2012
Has anyone asked an ON Con MPP what they think about that statement? I bet there are a few who would agree with this inane inflammatory 1% tomfoolery
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MarsAmbassador
Per angusta ad augusta
02:43 PM on 04/11/2012
This man is ridiculous. Saying the government is trying to wipe rich people off the face of the planet by proposing a SINGLE POINT INCREASE on anyone making $500,000. Most of them wouldn't even see it because every single rich person I know runs their money through corporations.
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WorkInCanada
Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid. John W
02:05 PM on 04/11/2012
The rich expect the poor to carry the burden of government austerity. Shame, shame.
02:43 PM on 04/11/2012
Nonsense. The wealthy pay more than their share. In Ontario in 2012, $500,000 annual income means $211,579 in combined Federal and Provincial tax (42.3%), with a marginal tax rate of 46.4%. Someone earning $50,000 pays $8887 (17.8%) with MTR of 31.2%. Charlatans can loot the tax system only as long as the wealthy are willing to contribute to those who pay less than the services they consume. When the next generation stops dreaming and striving for success, the cards fall down and the children of today's looters along with everyone else will be in squalor. In the meantime, pointing fingers without facts isn't a productive pursuit.
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WorkInCanada
Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid. John W
02:53 PM on 04/11/2012
So, being left with $290K isn't enough? $25K / month isn't enough? $1000 / day in your pocket isn't enough? For some reason, you guys also forget that you too pay the exact same amount on the first $50K as everyone else. This is fair...it's called progressive taxation.

Yet, those who are putting a total $100 / day in their pocket are supposed to be believe YOU when you call them looters? They are supposed to take reduced health care and more expensive education and more expensive housing and pension plans that you are sucking dry?

Stop embarassing yourself and please be quiet.
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Northern Observer
03:28 PM on 04/11/2012
So what you're saying is that those making $500,000 have to live off of $288,421 and while those making $50,000 have to live off of $34,400 - $41,113. Are you expecting someone netting $288,421 to use the same services as someone netting $34,400 or vice versa? But it's ok, feel free to be lumped in the same group as Doak, who thinks a %2 tax increase is like ethnic cleansing. Just shows how completely out of touch and ignorant he really is. Enjoy your company.
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01:59 PM on 04/11/2012
Totally want this dangerously insane individual managing my wealth.
02:50 PM on 04/11/2012
I suspect your wealth would be of limited interest to him - but who knows? A person called Nihilicious might have millions stashed away and be making plans right now to make a fortune growing pineapples in Oregon. Or not.
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William Muller
01:44 PM on 04/11/2012
Of course this guy would bring out the big guns against tax hikes for the rich because he's one of them. His major worry is what size his next yacht is going to be while people down the road from his mansion are worrying how to stretch their food dollars.
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01:31 PM on 04/11/2012
Is this what we should start calling the "americanization" of Canadian media?
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02:43 PM on 04/11/2012
It's not Canadian media, it was a Canadian person talking on the media. Big difference.
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Michael747
03:01 PM on 04/11/2012
Yes, but the Canadian media is now practicing the same "false equivalency" that we see in the US media
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03:15 PM on 04/11/2012
right, I liked you remark about Flaherty, he would make great PM.
12:55 PM on 04/11/2012
ahahahahhahahahahaha I don't think he understands what ethnic cleansing is
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12:44 PM on 04/11/2012
What a silly, silly comment and a cavalier attitude--from someone who has never known suffering. Downright insulting to anyone who lost loved ones in war.
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oxjr
12:29 PM on 04/11/2012
The reason why the rich are supposed to pay more taxes is they get the most benefit from government spending. The roads, shipping lanes, water lines, phone lines, and even the military (protecting a safe stable place to do business) will benefit a wealthy person may times over. For every dollar a rich person earns - a larger portion of that dollar was achieved due to infrastructure.
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
12:22 PM on 04/11/2012
Dork? ? Right?
SamEasy
You really don`t want to know.
11:54 PM on 04/11/2012
Capitalist pig too!
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Sandra MacKay
11:45 AM on 04/11/2012
Since we are on the "cleansing" road, let me introduce Mr. Doak to the concept of "social cleansing" which is defined as the "process of removing an undesirable group from an area"
One could very well argue the current monetarist system which serves to only benefit the very few, that could be seen as a social cleansing. The current housing market is pushing many lower to middle income families out of neighbourhood they lived in for years. That is social cleansing. A wealthy community refusing to allow social housing to be built could be interpreted as social cleansing. Mr. Doak, you are the people who are doing the "cleansing" not the res of us.
04:52 PM on 04/11/2012
Very good comment and faved. To someone who spent a number of years in the real estate business, at different times and under different economic conditions, I can attest to your observation