Conservative Tie With NDP In Polls May Be Broken In The Suburbs

The Huffington Post Canada  |  By Posted: 04/17/2012 9:16 am Updated: 04/17/2012 9:48 am

As another poll pegs NDP and Tory support at almost dead even, the dividing line between supporters of the government and supporters of the opposition is becoming clearer.

A new Ipsos-Reid poll for the National Post released Friday indicates the Conservatives have the support of 34 per cent of Canadians, compared to 33 per cent for the New Democrats. This is the fifth consecutive survey to put the margin between the two parties at two points or less. All were taken after the Mar. 24 NDP leadership convention, but unlike the other polls this is the first one to see the Conservatives slip from the high-30s.

Since Ipsos-Reid's last poll in early March, this marks a three point drop for the Tories and a four point gain for the New Democrats. The Liberals were down two points to only 21 per cent, echoing other recent results.

Though the country is splitting between right and left, this division is not uniform. Both the Conservatives and the NDP can lay claim to specific demographics.

The Conservatives perform best among male voters aged 55 years or older, rural Canadians, high-school graduates, income earners of $30,000 or more and people born in Canada.

The New Democrats, meanwhile, are strongest among women, Canadians between the ages of 18 and 34, those with a university education, people who earn less than $30,000 and immigrants.

This leaves a few voter groups up for grabs: the two parties are running generally even among urban Canadians, middle-aged voters, non-high school graduates and those with a college degree. This would seem to indicate that the battleground between the two parties is primarily in the suburbs, though every party manages to sway voters of all stripes to some extent.

That best describes the plight of the Liberals, who generally get uniform support no matter where a voter was born, how much they earn and what level of education they achieved. While this can sweep a party to a crushing victory when it is riding high in the polls, it also severely penalizes a party in a first-past-the-post system.

In Canada's three largest provinces, home to about 70 per cent of the seats in the House of Commons, the battle lines are also being drawn. The Conservatives, despite the robocalls and the F-35 scandals, are still dominating in Ontario with 41 per cent support, up two points from early March. The New Democrats, meanwhile, have moved into a tie with the Liberals at 27 per cent.

Thomas Mulcair has had the anticipated effect in Quebec, boosting the NDP's fortunes by eight points to 41 per cent support, around where they were for the May 2011 vote. The Liberals have taken the lion's share of the losses, dropping eight points to only 15 per cent -- tied with the Tories.

And in British Columbia, the Conservatives and New Democrats are running neck-and-neck, as they have been in the vast majority of recent polls.

At this stage, it would appear that the fight for the suburban vote could decide the result of the next election. The NDP and Conservatives each have their bastions of strength in Quebec and the West, respectively. But if the New Democrats can infiltrate the suburbs, they will close the gap in Ontario and storm ahead in British Columbia. If the Conservatives can regain those votes, they will be in a strong position to romp to another majority. Both parties have launched national ad campaigns in the last few weeks, so they too seem to recognize that this race is not a sprint, but a marathon.

Éric Grenier taps The Pulse of federal and regional politics for Huffington Post Canada readers on most Tuesdays and Fridays. Grenier is the author of ThreeHundredEight.com, covering Canadian politics, polls, and electoral projections.

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11:32 AM on 04/19/2012
The Mulcair NDP will force the moderate and centeralist Liberals to move to the Cons. When the public gets to see Mulcairs foul mouth and abusive personality, even more people will move further right. He may show his patriotism by denouncing his foreign citizenship though. It may cost him votes in Quebec, but the rest of Canada would approve.
02:11 AM on 04/19/2012
I have to snicker at the merger of the NDP and Liberal. What makes everyone believe all Liberals are left wing thinkers. I believe being a Liberal is more of a middle of the road. In Saskatchewan the Liberals and Conservatives formed the Saskatchewan Party. This party took 61% of the Nov 2011 vote. NDP 31% and other 8% divided amongst the remainder of parties.
If the Liberals did break up or join with NDP you would have a lot of the center thinking Liberals going Conservative I believe.
03:24 PM on 04/18/2012
hilarious.

one party gets its support from native canadians, the well educated, the middle class and the upper class.

and the other gets its support exclusively from women and minorities.

pretty telling.
08:35 PM on 04/19/2012
You mean, high-school education? LOL cos yeah, HS is so much better than university.
But then, seeing as you obviously favour CONS, your illiteracy shouldn't come as a surprise.

Also, your blatant bias against women and immigrants doesn't come as a surprise, either, you bigot.
01:50 PM on 04/18/2012
The Harper Party depended for its majority on several factors not likely to be repeated. It is drifting back down towards its hard-core base, which is very probably less than 30%. Since the Harperites are ideologically addicted to the egocentric hubris that breeds constant scandals, if not corruption, the current trend is almost certainly a death spiral for the Harperites, at least in terms of any future majority status.
11:32 AM on 04/19/2012
Sure hope you are right. The death spiral can't happen soon enough for me.

I am, by the way , well over 55 , voted Conservative when they were " Red Tories " all the time. A good balance of fiscal responsibility coupled with a social contract that benefits all levels of society is the best way to create a strong country. The current Reform/Cons have no idea what a social contract means.

Until we change our electoral system to one that is of some type of proportional representation where all viewpoints are represented at the cabinet table and consensus agreements are reached, this country will continue to be fractured and far less than what it could be.
12:01 PM on 04/19/2012
With the Harperites as a sad comparison, my respect and admiration is rapidly increasing for the 'Red Tories' -- going back to Robert Stanfield, Dalton Camp, Joe Clark, Flora MacDonald,etc.
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10:02 AM on 04/18/2012
Another sympathetic separatist with grand illusions. Canada in the long run won't tolerate these type of individuals, the kind that try to endear themselves to you and then when they think you're not paying them any intention, would attempt to stab you in the back. In reality he's an anti-Canadian and a wolf in she eps clothing.
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10:30 AM on 04/18/2012
Harper is a western separatist. Our choice then according to your comments would be the liberals.

Absolutely no politician in the history of Canadian politics has ever acted as deviously or against the wishes of Canadians than Harper has. He is the king of conflict - he thrives on dividing Canadians along any lines that he can - because divided we will fall.
11:28 AM on 04/18/2012
Let's not get carried away. I seem to recall that Pierre Trudeau did a good job of dividing the country, first alienating Quebec with the War Measures Act, then the West with his energy policy.

http://stevesbigpicture.com/
01:38 PM on 04/18/2012
Divide and conquer is the oldest political strategy in history. If you don't think that ALL political parties practice it when they can then you need to wake up. Personally, I feel the Liberals are spent and I wouldn't lose sleep over them fading away like the Liberals did in Britain. The country would benefit from having a clear choice between "left" and "right".

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07:24 AM on 04/18/2012
without using the googles -----------who was the first leader of the NDP.????
07:58 AM on 04/18/2012
Tommy Douglas was the first leader of the CCF which evolved into the NDP, I believe the first leader of the NDP was Ed Broadbent.
06:34 PM on 04/18/2012
close but no cigar ----it was in fact tommy douglas --who was succeeded by ed broadbent
11:46 PM on 04/17/2012
The Liberal Democrats
10:57 PM on 04/17/2012
Its hard to beleive how anyone would take the NDP seriously....Harper has elevated Canada's image abroad done an excellent Job on the economy under difficult circumstances.

Canadians should be grateful for the evenhanded leadership they have
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12:01 AM on 04/18/2012
In what way or where has Mr. Harper elevated Canada's standing? Are you kidding me? Mr, Harper is rightly seen as an ideological fool in the USA, Europe.... anywhere.

A failed man with failed ideas who lucked into us.
12:18 PM on 04/18/2012
Sir you need to diversify your sources of information....Sorry CBC and HP aint gonna do it.

Just open your eyes.....LOOK AT EUROPE....LOOK AT THE USA... where do you want to live????? We are in the worst global downturn in 100 years and Canada is seen as having largley skirtted the worst of it so far....count your blessings
03:03 AM on 04/18/2012
Don't worry Well Armed Lamb. The left wing live in this make believe world named the Huffington post. Its kind of fun something like reading the comics.
07:26 AM on 04/18/2012
COMICS ---deep reading and research source for the righties
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10:49 PM on 04/17/2012
This article makes only slight reference to the myriad of Con scandals that have repulsed Canada and much of the world. It is therefore a fraud.

The next election is 3+ years away, for Pete's sake!
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10:33 AM on 04/18/2012
Hopefully with the election fraud investigation now looking directly into the headquarters of the Conservative party, we will not have to wait a full three years.

Where is our highly paid GG by the way?
11:37 AM on 04/19/2012
Unfortunately, the GG cannot do anything to help the situation. He is probably the most intelligent GG we have and and he is doing a good job of representing the Queen . Until Harper approaches him to call an election there is little he can do.
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08:16 PM on 04/17/2012
Like the GOP, the Conservatives were once an ethical and proud party. Now they're supported by the wealthy, big business, and older white men. It's not that the NDP is winning so much as it is that the Conservatives have lost their moral compass. Oh, and the implosion of the Liberals.
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09:29 PM on 04/17/2012
You must be taking your talking points from the US destroyer, the Obama Administration
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09:37 PM on 04/17/2012
Oh my god that was SO WITTY!
10:59 AM on 04/18/2012
So the trillions of dollars of war debt accumulated by Bush was Obama's fault because he didn't go back in time to stop it?
06:48 PM on 04/17/2012
"............... The most pressing question that citizens of democratic nations are seemingly asking themselves at present is " what kind of society do I want to live in?" The answer is apparently causing great strife.
So we are witnessing the arrival on the streets once again, of the majority's demand for a more altruistic society, with equal opportunit­y for all. An old idea whose time has come, once again!

The transition may cause some to lose their heads. Hopefully only figurative­ly speaking, and common sense will return to both the political and economic arenas, before any more dangerous escalation of passions. One must always remember the French revolution­?..........."

Mr Harper has apparently forgotten what the penance might be for his betrayal of Canadian values! Mr Mulcair must be a constant reminder........ on behalf of all Canadians
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09:34 PM on 04/17/2012
Harper is the only true Canadian. Mulcair on the other hand is also a French citizen. So he could be in conflict when it comes to the best interest of Canada and Canadians.
So I could not trust Mulcair to give fully committed decisions to Canada
10:10 PM on 04/17/2012
You need to do a little research on your enemies! Mulcair's Father was Irish Canadian as I am and his grandfather was an elected official in Quebec. He is more Canadian than you probably? Harper was spawned by a separatist movement in Alberta the old "concept party" and his surrogate papa was Preston Manning.
10:23 PM on 04/17/2012
That should have read "great great grandfather on his mothers side was an elected government official............ninth premier of Quebec! How does your Canadian pedigree measure up to that? Herr Henk?
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06:48 PM on 04/17/2012
without a merger of NDP and Liberal there will always be a chance of another Harper victory. With a merger he would never be PM again and we can start repairing the damage
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10:36 AM on 04/18/2012
I would like to see a strong committment to cooperation between all of the opposition parties because we really need to get our democracy back into the hands of the people. It will take a lot of non-partisan planning to develop the protocols and support systems to keep the American fingers out of our policy decision and in interfering with our election processes.
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12:12 PM on 04/18/2012
I agree with that. Unfortunately neither Muclair nor Rae can see the forest for the trees right now and until they drop their partisanship towards each other and decide to work together a la ABH cooperation at the bare minimum then I don't know what kind of country I'll be living in come 2015. Maybe I better start learning French if all progressives essentially move to Quebec to uphold social democracy and escape Harpergeddon.
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12:15 PM on 04/18/2012
ABH Anyone But Harper
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11:33 AM on 06/08/2012
Problem is that the common sense Liberals could never get along with the radical NDP!
06:39 PM on 04/17/2012
Every move this Guy Harper makes is another effort to "divide and conquer" in the long term. Believe me he has set his path to dissembling confederation and will with time, remake Canada in an image more akin to a Republic, that will emulate the United states economically and strengthen the influences of Global corporatism.

When healthcare, in the hands of the provinces needs support, he will shrug and say we have no more money. When environmental issues arise he will say we have no interest, as it is is not a federal issue. On and on until what is left is a solution that will change the boundaries and rewrite the charter of rights for all Canadians.
Then he can become the author of a new chapter for Canada. One he has always wanted to write. Full and free market Capitalism, without regulations and we shall then see another nightmarish Ayn Rand style, laissez faire objectivism, that will establish a corporate servile state system in our beloved nation!
That is if we allow him to continue to rule! Nothing must stop his ouster at the election. Nothing is more frightening than his agenda for our country!
09:19 PM on 04/17/2012
there's nothing laissez-faire about Ayn Rand style objectivism. It demands action from people of vision.
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09:39 PM on 04/17/2012
Only if you beleive in the myth of the indevidual that is somehow a nexus of society.
Personally I reject that as anyone can rise high or be dragged low given the right oppertunity or a lack there of.
10:14 PM on 04/17/2012
Alta Bob:

"Laissez faire" refers broadly to "unregulated effort".......which is the core of objectivism and it's idiot child "trickle down unfettered free market capitalism" A philosophy which has over the last 30 years almost single handedly destroyed capitalism and several nation states!
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06:26 PM on 04/17/2012
I am part of the 66 percent.
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05:21 PM on 04/17/2012
As I've said before.

Rural Ontario is the prime tie-breaker.