John Baird: Hitler Argument Against NDP Rears Its Head In Question Period Again (VIDEO)

The Huffington Post Canada  |  By Posted: 04/28/2012 1:08 pm Updated: 04/28/2012 1:55 pm

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On Friday, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird became the second prominent Tory to reference Hitler during debate with the NDP on Canada's withdrawal from Afghanistan.

It appears the Conservatives have decided to make playing the Hitler card a talking point.

On Friday, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird became the second prominent Tory to reference the Nazi leader during debate with the NDP on Canada's withdrawal from Afghanistan. On Thursday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper first made the argument that the NDP, which didn't exist at the time, failed to support the fight against Hitler.

The prime minister's fuzzy history sparked a Twitter firestorm which culminated in the trending hashtag #HarperHistory, with users joking about other historical events the NDP could be blamed for (See the best tweets in the slideshow below).

Asked by NDP MP Christine Moore about whether the U.S. has asked Canada to extend our involvement in Afghanistan past 2014, Baird responded, "The NDP don't support sending troop abroad for anything, Mr. Speaker. Let's look at the former leader of the NDP CCF when he said the following, 'I would ask whether we are to risk the lives of our Canadian sons to prevent the actions of Hitler?' So you know who said that Mr. Speaker? The former leader of the NDP CCF, J.S. Woodsworth."

Baird was immediately met with jeers similar to those Harper received on Thursday after making the same argument.

Baird wasn't the only MP to bring up Hitler on Friday. NDP MP Dan Harris read #HarperHistory tweets aloud in the House and Tory backbencher Scott Armstrong echoed Harper and Baird's CCF/NDP talking point.

The NDP was created in 1961 when the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (CCF) and Canadian Labour Congress (CLC) merged. The CCF's leader in the late 1930s and early 1940s, J.S. Woodworth, was an uncompromising pacifist who opposed Canada's involvement in the war. However, after Woodworth's death in 1942, the CCF's new leader, M.J. Coldwell, altered the party's position to support the war effort. The Canadian Labour Congress did not yet exist during the conflict.

So why are the Tories hammering home the Hitler argument and risking more public ridicule? On Friday night's "The National," CBC political reporter Kady O'Malley speculated that the Tories are using the Hitler argument as a "diversionary tactic."

With Minister Bev Oda's taste for expensive hotels making national headlines, Auditor General Michael Ferguson continuing to question the government's handling of the F-35 purchase and polls showing Stephen Harper's approval numbers tanking, perhaps it's not surprising that the Tories may be looking to create a diversion.

Whether that strategy backfires will depend not only on how Canadians feel about the appropriateness of invoking Hitler, but also about whether there is a role for Canada in Afghanistan post-2014.

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It appears the Conservatives have decided to make playing the Hitler card a talking point. On Friday, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird became the second prominent Tory to reference the Nazi lea...
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10:22 AM on 04/30/2012
John Baird , small minds think small things.. Just reading more into this some one said it is about religion ? Not sure if religion fits into this conversation.
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10:11 AM on 04/30/2012
Harper and Baird should both take a Political History course. Both where not even born . Baird in particular has no idea who or what Party the Hitler regime was . The NDP where not around and our not related to the other Party that opposed Canada , which at the time was still part of the British empire. That is the only reason Canada was there to fight the Germans . That expedition into France ended in DUNKIRK . 1940-41 But this being said I wish the Canadian government and all the wonderful politicians take a school course in Political science or political history . Before they talk about something in which they have no Idea . Verystupid remark. Shows what kind of government is running Canada .
06:13 AM on 04/30/2012
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Tazzie
Speaking truth to stupid
01:38 AM on 04/30/2012
I expect more from Canadian Politicians. At the very least I expect them to adhere to basics like Godwin's Law.
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
11:46 PM on 04/29/2012
One big irony is that the NDP are closer inline with Hitler's victims (socialist/honest) and the Harper's government is closer inline with fascism (fascist/corporatism/undemocratic/liars) which is what Hitler was. Ironic isn't it?
06:58 PM on 04/30/2012
No, no it's not. For the love of all that is sacred please don't start a "who's more like Hitler" fight. Nobody's anything like Hitler.
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
06:07 PM on 05/02/2012
Yes, yes they do. I said his party has policies that are similar to the democratically Hitler's policies - hate for honest people, hate for unions, hate for democracy and as such love of election rigging, intimidation, spying, unreasonable personal attacks, stalking, propagandizing and hatemongering. So yes they do have similarities whether you'd like to see that or not.
09:33 PM on 04/29/2012
I have never been so embarrassed by the government, than with this crop of conservatives. I could often find respect for the Progressive Conservatives in spite of being left politically. I can only imagine how ludicrous the parliament would be if Harper did not have such a tight gag on most of them.
This government is not Canadian. I feel it actually hates Canada. As it's leader has several times let be known in previous put downs of the country in it's parts and it's whole. Canadians need to sweep these people out completely in the next election. I would like to see a good mix of left, center and right of actual thoughtful leaders again. Ones who represent Canadians, not neocon American wannabes.
12:29 AM on 04/30/2012
I agree, it seems a bit surreal, some (ok alot) of the things that have been going on in our country!
09:05 PM on 04/29/2012
In 1939, J.S. Woodsworth (but not the other MPs in the CCF party) voted against sending troops to war. Mr. Woodsworth was a well known pacifist. Stephen Harper and John Baird lied in Parliament about this. The claimed the NDP voted against the war.

They lied about two things
1. The NDP did not exist in 1939
2. The CCF party that was the forerunner of the NDP did not vote against the war, just their leader.

Harper and Baird have no class. Prime Minister MacKenzie King who was the PM at the time obviously does have class, when he said this about Mr. Woodsworth in the House of Commons during the debate in September 1939 about entering the war .

"There are few men in this Parliament for whom I have greater respect than the leader of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation. I admire him in my heart, because time and again he has had the courage to say what lays on his conscience, regardless of what the world might think of him. A man of that calibre is an ornament to any Parliament."

That statement shows how unfit for office are Harper and Baird and the whole gang of smear artists in the CPC.
06:16 PM on 04/29/2012
Cannot even remember or recall that one in government had been attacked on ones religious belief. Is anyone aware of such? And when in Canadian government has one used Hitler or calling out such statements? Is anyone aware of such a thing happening in the past? Where is this all coming from?
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canobserv
07:28 AM on 04/30/2012
it is coming from desperation.......methinks
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Marcus Davies
I'm still standing
04:52 PM on 04/29/2012
BREAKING: MP religion no longer off limits. Harper attacks MP for voting according to religious beliefs.
06:19 PM on 04/29/2012
Who ever as made such a claim or heard, such against another ever in Canadian History, bringing in another religious faith ?
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DidiM
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07:39 PM on 04/29/2012
As he should. Religion has no room in Parliament. We have freedom of religion yes and that's a good thing. But an MP's personal religion and the beliefs that go with it - cannot interfere with the laws of the Constitution! This makes sure for example: that none of our current laws are skewed via a "Private members Bill" - to suit the MP's - religious beliefs like being an anti abortion advocate and thereby infringing on the rights of women's free choice. It also protects us from for example: The Christian religion - being struck down in favor of Islam etc... Get it?
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Marcus Davies
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10:39 AM on 04/30/2012
I have no idea what point you are making. So when an MP votes according to his religious beliefs he should be openly mocked? Because that's what happened. Is that what you think separation of church and state means?
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AuntiFascist
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03:49 PM on 04/29/2012
Harper is the reincarnation of Il Duce!

Benito Mussolini was known as Il Duce and he is famously quoted as having said "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Is this not what we're seeing promoted by the Harperites? Is this not the reason for being of the Fraser Institute and EthicalOil?

Harper and Baird want to talk about Hitler. I nominate the nickname of Hitler's ally, Benito Mussolini, be award to Stephen Harper.

My suggestion is that he be known as" Il Duce" from this day forward. It suits him!
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dannyboy551
Emperor Harper needs to be booted out of power
10:20 PM on 04/29/2012
I've been calling him Harpolini for years
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
11:04 PM on 04/29/2012
"Il Duce" (like Der Fuehrer) just means "the one who leads" and is from the same root as "Duke". We already call our party poobahs "leaders"...all you're doing it is saying it in Italian.

And besides, Mussolini had actual taste in art and civilization, and also a better tailor.
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All Seeing Guy
Center of the storm
03:40 PM on 04/29/2012
Draw a Hitler stache on Baird and I'd swear he and the real thing were separated at birth.
05:58 PM on 04/29/2012
Not far enough in some aspects.
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Wild Thing
Say What?!
11:32 PM on 04/29/2012
...and without a 'stache, Baird looks just like Mean Floyd from the Muppet Musicians of Bremen!
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01:19 PM on 04/29/2012
The NDP are standing up against Hitler now.
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Marcus Davies
I'm still standing
01:05 PM on 04/29/2012
UPDATE: Harper attacks Member of Parliament for voting according to his religious faith.
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cwebster
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12:22 PM on 04/29/2012
My theory is that Harper made a gaffe when he forgot the NDP didn't exist, so is having the minions hammer away making the NDP/CCF connection. It's a face-saving measure, but it is reprehensible, considering that it is his party that has the fascist tendencies.
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canobserv
07:31 AM on 04/30/2012
it was a stupid move.......and now the opposition can bring up Reformer policy ...and Alberta Firewalls
12:14 PM on 04/29/2012
The use of Hitler's name is reprehensible and the Harper Government knows it. Having had family die in the gas chambers, the use of his name brings up those memories. Harper is following, as he is doing with anything the US Gas & Oil Industry of the US wants, trying to make Canada into a Canadian version of the Tea Party. Now the Conservatives are bringing up abortion, another issue that the US keeps wanting to re-litigate. Can you imagine what will happen, how much more Harper will turn us to a appendix of the US, if Mitt Romney is elected President? Go Obama Go and Out Harper Out is the battle cry!