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Canadian Seal Hunt To Be Debated In Senate

Posted: 05/ 1/2012 1:46 pm Updated: 05/ 2/2012 7:42 pm

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Liberal Sen. Mac Harb said he believes at least one senator will stand up with him on Wednesday and support the idea of debating an end to the commercial seal hunt. (CP)
UPDATE: Liberal Sen. Mac Harb's anti-seal hunt bill will finally be the subject of debate in the Senate

Harb gained the initial support of fellow Liberal Sen. Larry Campbell allowing his bill to move toward second-reading debate. Harb said Wednesday marks a historical turn of events, with both parties in the Senate voting unanimously to allow debate.

"I was stunned, I had a couple of tricks up my sleeve and I was prepared to force a vote if needed," Harb said.

Campbell said he supported the bill, despite being in favour of the hunt, so that an informed debate can take place.

Harb has tried twice before to introduce a bill calling for the end of the commercial seal fishery. But both the Liberals and the Conservatives refused to allow him to speak and table his bill.

Anti-seal hunt advocates are vegetarians who have set their sights on struggling East Coast hunters rather than fighting the beef cartel, says a Liberal senator.

Sen. Céline Hervieux-Payette told The Huffington Post Canada that Liberals and Conservatives have been united in trying to prevent rogue Liberal Sen. Mac Harb from tabling a bill banning Canada’s commercial seal hunt for several years because it is “disturbing to the whole scene.”

“It is giving the vegetarians a big opportunity,” Hervieux-Payette said. “We see that as a lobby group, the animal rights group who are in fact against the consumption of animals. They address this question in particular (the seal hunt) because they know that the people who are living out of it are poor, it is not a large group and they would not address the beef cartel or they would not address other animals because they know that they would fail because they would have to face a very strong organization,” she said.

“They are picking on the weak, this is their agenda,” she added.

The department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada estimates there are about 5,000 to 7,000 sealers. And while the seal hunt used to be worth several million dollars, the price of pelts has shot downwards with the closure of markets in Europe and now in Russia. The commercial industry is worth a fraction of what it once was.

Harb, the only senator who openly opposes the seal hunt, will try once again Wednesday to table a bill that would prohibit non-Aboriginal commercial fishing for seals in Canadian waters.

Harb has tried twice before, in 2010 and 2009, to introduce his bill but every time he stood up in the Senate and asked his peers for support, he was met with silence.

Without any seconders — even from his own party — Harb’s bill wasn’t placed on the agenda and couldn’t be discussed in the Senate.

Harb told HuffPost he believes things will be different this time around and that at least one senator will stand up with him to support the idea of debating an end to the commercial seal fishery.

“It’s not very good for democracy when you can’t discuss a very important issue just because the issue is not supported by the political parties,” Harb said Tuesday. “What is good for democracy is to allow informed debate and then people can decide."

Senators from different parties have indicated their support, Harb said, though he refused to name any names and said he wasn’t sure who would show up in the Senate Wednesday to lend him a hand.

He credits constituents’ opposition to the seal hunt and massive letter-writing campaigns that have pleaded with parliamentarians to end the seal slaughter. “Every step, every call, every email, every letter makes a difference,” Harb said.

“I’m sort of happy... I want a discussion and I want government to see the light and do the right thing,” he added.

The senator from Ottawa is convinced the sealing industry is unviable and puts a black mark on Canada’s international reputation.

A recent article in the Guardian slammed Canada for spending more defending the hunt than it nets in the first place.

But the Conservatives, like the Liberals before them, are staunch supporters of the hunt, recently calling it an “important economic and cultural driver in Canada’s eastern, arctic and northern communities.”

Canada is fighting the European Union ban at the WTO and, in February, during his trip to China, the Prime Minister promoted seal products. “The government is there, we are in an agreement with them. The Liberal Party is behind them,” Hervieux-Payette said.

The NDP, for its part, is also not opposed to the seal hunt.

The Quebec senator said Harb might finally get to make a speech about killing the seal hunt, but that what senators should really be discussing is the proposed grey seal cull.

Communities in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are struggling with how to deal with an explosion in the grey seal population, she said.

“They don’t have a predator so they multiply quite (quickly) and they live so long, they live 35 years. So it is a creating a problem for the East Coast,” Hervieux-Payette said.

“It’s not just the fish stock,” she added. “If you have 70,000 to 80,000 grey seals, you know the size of these seals … they are big animals, weighing tons and eating a lot but also … it is creating problems for the local communities, they have to come on the earth eventually.”

Hervieux-Payette said the federal government needs to find a sustainable way to use the seals rather than burning the carcasses.

“We have to find a way of recycling them. Why don’t we start a little pilot project and see if we can convert that into food for animals, whether it is pet animals or food for the fish farm?” she said, suggesting salmon should be fed their former predator.

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    Seal hunters use a hakapik, a club used for killing seals, to kill a seal near their boat in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence March 31, 2008 near Charlottetown, Canada. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

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    Seal hunters skin harp seals on an ice floe March 30, 2001 in the Gulf of St. Lawrence in Canada. (Photo by Darren McCollester/Newsmakers)

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    The bodies of harp seals, roughly twenty days old, lie on an ice floe March 27, 2001 in the Gulf of St. Lawrence in Canada. (Photo by Darren McCollester/Newsmakers)

  • Canadian Seal Hunt

    The carcass of a harp seal, roughly twenty days old, lies on an ice floe March 30, 2001 in the Gulf of St. Lawrence in Canada. (Photo by Darren McCollester/Newsmakers)

  • Canadian Seal Hunt

    The carcass of a harp seal, roughly twenty days old, lies on an ice floe March 30, 2001 in the Gulf of St. Lawrence in Canada. (Photo by Darren McCollester/Newsmakers)

  • Canadian Seal Hunt

    The carcass of a harp seal, roughly twenty days old, lies on an ice floe March 30, 2001 in the Gulf of St. Lawrence in Canada. (Photo by Darren McCollester/Newsmakers)

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    Seal hunters carry dead seals in their boat in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence March 31, 2008 near Charlottetown, Canada. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

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    A policeman tries to remove female animal-rights activist Ashley Fruno (R), covered with a body-painting to look like the Canadian flag, during her one-woman anti-sealing protest by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) outside the Canadian embassy in Tokyo on March 24, 2010. (TORU YAMANAKA/AFP/Getty Images)

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    Animal rights activists, Sir Paul McCartney(R) and then-wife Heather Mills McCartney get up close to a seal pup during a venture onto the ice floes of the Gulf of St-Lawrence before the start of the 2006 seal hunting season in Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island. (DAVID BOILY/AFP/Getty Images)

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    Members of the organization for the defense of animals AnimalNaturalis protest naked and painted as bloody seals to protest the seal hunt in Canada on March 15, 2010. (Getty)

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    Members of the organization for the defense of animals AnimalNaturalis protest naked and painted as bloody seals to protest against the seal hunt in Canada on March 15, 2010. (Getty)

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    Inuit hunter Pitseolak Alainga (L) explains how the Inuit traditionally hunt seal to Canada's Finance Minister Jim Flaherty outside the Nunavut Legislature in Iqaluit, Canada, February 6, 2010. (GEOFF ROBINS/AFP/Getty Images)

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    An animal-rights activist holds a baseball bat as he stands next to a person wearing a seal costume during a protest against the killing of seals in Canada on March 29, 2010 in Munich, Germany. (Photo by Miguel Villagran/Getty Images)

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    An animal-rights activist wears a mask depicting the face of a seal during a protest against the killing of seals in Canada on March 29, 2010 in Munich, Germany. (Photo by Miguel Villagran/Getty Images)

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    People protest in front of the Canadian Consulates, on March 25, 2009 in Nice, south eastern France, to protest against the seal hunt in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence in Canada. (VALERY HACHE/AFP/Getty Images)

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    Having recently returned from a trip out to the ice floes to collect seal heart valves for scientific research, local butcher and seal hunter, Rejean Vigneau (R) and AN employee (L) prepare seal meat in his meat shop on March 25, 2008 in the Magdalen Islands of Quebec, Canada. (DAVID BOILY/AFP/Getty Images)

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    The Grim Reaper clubs a mock seal to death during a protest by the animal rights group PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animlas) in Hong Kong, 21 April 2006. (MIKE CLARKE/AFP/Getty Images)

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02:36 AM on 06/01/2012
I don't pity these sealers at all; they are lucky that they have a job (excuse me, TWO jobs since most of them are fishermen as well). Don't talk to me about being poor, Hervieux-Payette, because I know what poor is and I can guarantee that these people are doing quite alright for themselves. My family is scraping the bottom of the barrel just to get by, but I would NEVER accept ANY amount of money to murder an innocent, beautiful creature, let alone masses of them. Also, stating that anti-sealers are pushing a vegetarian agenda is utterly absurd. I, along with many of my friends and family, are strongly against the seal hunt.. and we are not vegetarians. True the meat industry is also cruel, and I fully support a vegetarian diet, but comparing the beef industry to the clubbing and skinning of seals is, in my opinion, likening apples to oranges.
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02:32 PM on 05/04/2012
Stop clubbing those baby seals and start clubbing KITTENS and PUPPIES. Then sell the puppy and kitten meat to Korea .. higher profit margin than baby seals.
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08:12 AM on 05/04/2012
Sen. Céline Hervieux-Payette is a disgrace to Canada and humanity. On top of all of this, she is a single issue Senator with a pro-sealing agenda and nothing else. She irritates me but spouts nothing but nonsense.

Her peers are being subjected to Party discipline and both Liberals and Conservatives are towing the line as everyone wants to win the two riding at any cost. Screw ethics, morality, humanity,and fiscal common sense. The parties want to win seats and they'll do ANYTHING to do so.

Harb is the only one with the common sense and courage to speak up.

Shame on the Parties and shame on the politicians who act against their conscience.
06:22 PM on 05/03/2012
only a fool in denial could support the seal hunt. What if seals could kill your young? Not only Vegetarians (omg, very few ominvores would eat seal meat) don't approve, but most logic, loving people wouldn't approve, either. Why is it that there are so many who want to stop evolution in it's tracks? what is more non evolutionary than murdering children, be it human or otherwise?
Veal anyone? Yes, why should I be upset about the murder of children in front of thier parents? any other way of looking at the killing of any animal is denial. We have evolved past needing to eat each other.
12:16 PM on 05/03/2012
Personally I think anyone capable of hitting an innocent, beautiful wild creature to death is a horrible person, especially with big DOE eyed baby seals, what are you the devil??? Send money to help the poor over there, leave the seals alone. WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO STOP BEING BARBARIC???????? I promise you there are SOULS behind every set of eyes and they feel pain, they are capable of loving relationships and if you want to bring up the bible and how God says to eat meat, then research how "meat" meant food in general back in the biblical days and what people refer to as "flesh" in the bible is indeed flesh. I'm shocked people are in support of killing baby seals. It's heartbreaking. What you put out in life is what you get back, I sure in the heck wouldn't want the karma from murdering the innocent.
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05:13 PM on 05/03/2012
Not only that, but for all the Christians out there who try to use the Bible as their authority for eating 'meat', consider that Gen. 1:29 where God says what is there for people to eat, and He NEVER once mentions dead animals. He says: "29 ¶And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for a meat."

Sorry Christians, but your meat diet is actually more a case of wallowing and participating with great enthusiasm in the wages of sin. That first animal died because of sin and you've been capitalizing on it ever since. Why not live as God originally intended?
05:28 AM on 05/06/2012
It looks like it is time you stop posting in this debate..You comment has nothing to do with this issue. Now your attacking Christians..... a last ditch effort to support your anti sealing organization...
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lebari
08:54 AM on 05/03/2012
“They don’t have a predator so they multiply quite (quickly) and they live so long, they live 35 years. So it is a creating a problem for the East Coast..."

- Replace East Coast with "entire world" and 35 with 75 and you've just described humans. I think WE are the bigger problem, not the seals whose habitat we've encroached on.
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02:14 AM on 05/03/2012
I'm not a vegetarian (although I'd like to be), but I find it utterly stunning how many people not only don't care whether animals suffer, but actually get ANGRY at others for wanting compassion for them. How does one justify that?
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01:57 AM on 05/03/2012
But the Conservatives, like the Liberals before them, are staunch supporters of the hunt, recently calling it an “important economic and cultural driver in Canada’s eastern, arctic and northern communities.”

Driver of what? Poverty? Denial of reality? It's UNSUSTAINABLE!!! Re-educate these people and encourage sustainable business - not welfare for fishermen and hunters!!!
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10:59 PM on 05/02/2012
For some odd reason parliament is afraid of this issue. I don't get why Harb is the only one with the courage to stand up for these seals. I doesn't make any sense.
Is the pittance of money that comes in really that politically viable?
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DebbyM
05:29 PM on 05/03/2012
Have you ever listened to someone from Nfld. talk? Can't imagine how bad it sounds when they are whining. Maybe that is the sound that all those politicians are trying to muffle.
05:26 AM on 05/06/2012
Again, an example of how these protest groups work and think. So your are now attacking the Newfoundland Culture, a rich language linked to their Irish and west England roots. I believe this is an example of racism...
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01:06 PM on 05/02/2012
I don’t hold animals superior or even equal to humans. The whole case for behaving decently to animals rests on the fact that we are the superior species. We are the species uniquely capable of imagination, rationality, and moral choice – and that is precisely why we are under an obligation to recognize and respect the rights of animals.
—Brigid Brophy (1929–1995)
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04:05 PM on 05/02/2012
the biggest deception humans have perpetrated on themselves is re-using the same lie over and over that somehow humans are superior to anything...
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04:26 PM on 05/02/2012
thank you catz1515.that is so true!!! it's just a lie that humans made up.it's speciesism,like racism.
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lebari
09:03 AM on 05/03/2012
Take the guns out of our hands THEN see who's at the top of the food chain. If humans were so superior we wouldn't be overpopulating the earth, we would be living in accordance with what nature provides and actively working to maintain and preserve it for future generations. We've totally disassociated ourselves from our natural environments and forgotten that we actually rely on the earth's resources, all through arrogance and consumerism. That's not superiority, it's stupidity. It will be our downfall.
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10:35 AM on 05/03/2012
absolutely.having guns,slaughterhouses and other weapons is like being in a violent war with our own family.we all evolved from the sea.it's really insane and most of the people who keep saying that humans are on top of the food chain are just mindlessly and brainlessly repeating something that they have been told without really thinking.sounds superior doesn't it?
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01:03 PM on 05/02/2012
When a human being kills an animal for food, he is neglecting his own hunger for justice. Man prays for mercy, but is unwilling to extend it to others. Why then should man expect mercy from God? It is unfair to expect something that you are not willing to give.
—Isaac Bashevis Singer, writer and Nobel laureate (1902–1991)
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01:01 PM on 05/02/2012
A human being is a part of the whole, called by us the “Universe,” a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separate from the rest – a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. Nobody is able to achieve this completely, but the striving for such achievement is in itself a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security.
—Albert Einstein (1879–1955)
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12:11 PM on 05/02/2012
This is typical government deflection.

Rather than focus on ways to give the sealers some economic options that would at least mitigate the need for the hunt, and invest in the local economies dependent on this for viability, attack 'vegetarians'.

I mean, why do any actual work as a government when you can just paint generalities with a wide brush, cop some ink in the Sun and go home early?
11:35 AM on 05/02/2012
I have listen to Mac Harb's commentary.I it full of the same kind of stuff you find on PETA, SSCS, HSUS etc web pages and nothing more!!!!
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03:49 PM on 05/02/2012
awsome!!! Glad to be a part of the solution! Stopping this outrageous violence against innocent animals is a great thing!!!