Vancouver Housing Bubble: Robert Shiller, U.S. House Price Guru, Says He's ‘Not Investing In Vancouver Real Estate'

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Vancouver’s housing bubble is more extreme today than California’s was a few years ago, says one of the U.S.’s most renowned housing market analysts. (CP/Alamy photo)
Vancouver’s housing bubble is more extreme today than California’s was a few years ago, says one of the U.S.’s most renowned housing market analysts. (CP/Alamy photo)

Vancouver’s housing bubble is more extreme today than California’s was a few years ago, says one of the U.S.’s most renowned housing market analysts.

Robert Shiller, co-creator of the Case-Shiller Index, which measures U.S. house prices, told BNN late last week that "Vancouver looks like part of California" when it comes to its housing market.

“Canada didn’t have the crash we had in the U.S.,” Shiller said. “It’s just continuing to grow and it’s accumulating into some big price increases. So it’s looking like the bubble is — or at least has been, until recently — still alive in Canada.”

Shiller displayed a chart showing Vancouver house prices, adjusted for inflation, exceeding growth rates seen in San Francisco at the height of its bubble.

“San Francisco is a bubble city that’s talked about as one of the major boom and bust cities in the U.S.,” Shiller said. “They’re no different in Vancouver, in fact it’s worse in Vancouver.”

The Yale University economist said that “Vancouver is San Francisco, lagging by a few years.”

He added: “I have Vancouver doubling (house prices) in 22 years. So that’s even bigger than San Francisco['s bubble]. I’ll tell you one thing, I’m not investing in Vancouver real estate.”

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Shiller’s comments come as evidence grows that both Toronto and Vancouver’s housing markets are now coming under severe downward pressure. Toronto home sales fell 12.5 per cent in August, compared to a year earlier, while Vancouver’s housing market saw a substantial 30.7 per cent drop in the same period, marking its worst month of sales since 1998.

The federal government has tightened mortgage rules four times in recent years, in an effort to cool off what many sees as overheated prices. The most recent changes lowered the maximum amortization period on a government-insured mortgage to 25 years, from 30, and reduced the amount homeowners can borrow against their home equity, from 85 per cent to 80 per cent.

The changes were implemented even as some Canadian housing markets showed signs of softening. Brian Hurley, CEO of mortgage issuer Genworth Canada, blamed the changes for the visible softening of the housing market in August.

These are pretty dramatic changes, and I think they’re getting close to the tipping point,” he said, as quoted at the Globe and Mail. “We see really qualified first-time home buyers with very high credit scores now not meeting the bar because they can’t afford a 25-year amortization. These people should be getting a home.”

The outlook for September looks little better. BMO economist Doug Porter said in a note Monday morning that he expects upcoming housing starts and sales numbers to show that the sector “is cooling down in a big way in Canada.”

He expects housing starts to drop four per cent, and nationwide sales to show a decline of nine per cent year over year.

Some economists argue the slowdown does not mean the market was ever in a bubble. Tsur Somerville, director of UBC’s Centre for Urban Economics, says the Vancouver market hasn’t had the kind of irrational exuberance that bubble market exhibit.

You can’t burst a bubble that wasn’t there,” he told the Vancouver Province.

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