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Before You Compare Something to Hitler and Nazis...Don't

Posted: 09/12/2012 8:35 am

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

The above statement is known as Godwin's Law. It's based on the principle developed by American lawyer Mike Godwin that if an online conversation goes on long enough, it eventually turns into a mudslinging contest. Both sides become frustrated and less rational, and invariably the argument will include a Nazi or Adolf Hitler comparison. At that point, the discussion is over; the one using the analogy has lost, for the argument has become irrational.

Mike Godwin's theory is based on online discussions, but the Hitler/Nazi comparison goes well beyond the Internet. Sadly, it happens with such regularity it has almost become part of our every day vernacular.

Just this week Ontario PC MPP Jim McDonell was forced to apologize when he compared legislation involving the ORNGE controversy and its alleged secrecy to the manner in which the Nazis operated.

And don't think the United Sates is not without its "Nazi Analogizers." My dear friend and colleague, Menachem Rosensaft right here in Huffington Post wrote last week of that bastion of talk radio extremism Rush Limbaugh who has consistently likened President Obama's health care policy to Nazism, with little or no comment from any mainstream Republican leaders.

"Obama's got a health care logo that's right out of Adolf Hitler's playbook"; "Obama is asking citizens to rat each other out like Hitler did"; the President "is sending out his brownshirts to head up opposition to genuine American citizens who want no part of what Barack Obama stands for and is trying to stuff down our throats"; and "Adolf Hitler, like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate."

The Democrats too, says Rosenschaft, are certainly not without fault. California Democratic Party Chairman John Burton lambasted Republican Vice Presidential nominee Paul Ryan by suggesting he utilized the "Big Lie" invoking the name of Joseph Goebbels the Nazi Propaganda Minister. Goebbels created the murderous atmosphere necessary to murder 6-million Jews by developing a brutal and hateful demonization of European Jewry.

And the past is replete with examples from both the left and right of the political spectrum of those who it seems temporarily lost their minds with visions of Hitler and Nazism.

In accepting his Nobel Peace Prize a few years ago, former U.S. Vice-President Al Gore used the Hitler analogy to compare world leaders ignoring climate change to those who ignored the potential threat emanating from Nazi Germany's early days.

Here at home, the leader of our Green Party, Elizabeth May, used similar hyperbole, comparing our government's environmental plan to former British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of the Nazis in 1938. Thankfully she later offered a full retraction and apology.

Former Kitchener-Waterloo MP Andrew Telegdi once compared Canada to Nazi Germany in regard to its immigration laws: "Canada is acting like a Nazi-style regime ... That's what Hitler used to do,'' Telegdi said. After some pressure from then Prime Minister Jean Chretien, Mr. Telegdi announced his regret in the House of Commons.

Former Liberal Transport Minister Jean Lapierre accused Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe of employing "a little bit of a Nazi tone'' after Duceppe boasted about making the Liberals "disappear'' in Quebec. Lapierre later apologized and promised he would never use the analogy again.

And on it goes. It seems as though every time a public figure draws a comparison to Hitler and Nazis, they are justifiably criticized and they apologize -- yet the comparisons continue. Perhaps that's because they don't truly appreciate the ramifications of what they're saying.

So, allow me to be perfectly blunt to avoid any further confusion. There can be no comparison. And, in my view, it matters little if the association is direct or through the back door. The attempt to annihilate an entire people is beyond such facile analogies and any attempt to do so sadly trivializes the act of genocide. And it is the trivialization that makes people so angry.

A government's policy on climate change or immigration or the manner in which it governs cannot be compared to those who perpetrated one of the worst crimes in all history. Godwin's rule is correct: the debate stops once Nazi parallels are invoked.

As for why people insist on making such comparisons, I'm not sure. Clearly, like Nazi swastikas painted on the walls of a synagogue, they have a certain perverse public relations value. Comparing a person or an issue to one of history's most demonic regimes and its leader is provocative to be sure, and it will make the news. Attempting to raise one's profile by invoking the name of Adolf Hitler may work in the short term, but in the long run, it will be seen for what it really is: a dismal attempt at self-promotion. And in the end, the real issue being advocated gets lost in the condemnation that inevitably ensues.

Whatever the rationalization, it has to stop. Trivializing Hitler and the Nazi regime is not only supremely dangerous and foolish, it is also insensitive and a slap in the face to all who suffered under that regime. It is time we begin to appreciate the beauty of the English language. According to U.S. author Paul JJ Payack, president of the Global Language Monitor, there are over 1,013,913 words in the English language, give or take. Surely advocates and lobbyists are creative enough to use all that richness properly and paint images that are worthy of the issue they espouse. Falling back on Hitler and the Nazis only tells us that they lack both imagination and sensitivity.

 

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Angelo Barovier
I came, I saw, I ate the cheese.
08:16 AM on 09/13/2012
Oh, don't be such a Nazi about Hitler.

*badum-tiss*
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OuterBanx North12
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03:36 PM on 09/12/2012
ad hominem attacks are always the last gasp of someone who has nothing more to contribute to the conversation, who can't elaborate on an idea or argument simply on it's merits.
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NTodd
Aude Sapere
03:19 PM on 09/12/2012
Generally, I'm in agreement with this view. When arguing over some issue, it's the easiest, laziest tact in the world to compare the view of one's opponent with the Nazis. It's a kind of moralistic shorthand, where any comparison to the Nazis automatically confers the ultimate "badness" to that point of view, without having to justify WHY you think it's bad. There are counter-examples, too. Quoting Dr. King or Einstein is supposed to confer unchallengeable "goodness" on your point of view. (Interestingly, a great many commonly cited quotes by Einstein are actually things he never said.) Where I disagree is that Godwin's law is itself a kind of blinkered moral shorthand that discourages us from making the kind of serious moral inquiry into whether the experience of the German people from '33-'45 is in any respects similar to ours. We must never forget the lesson that modern, civilized people stand constantly at the precipice of barbarity, and if we dismiss this lesson as something isolated from us by time, we risk falling into that precipice.
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02:21 PM on 09/12/2012
That is a very good opinion piece. My opinion on it of course is my own. I could perhaps cite references or arguements. Someone however will disagree. They will disagree with your opinion or my opinion of your opinion. They express their own, cite references or argue the matter. That is society.

However there are a few individuals and groups who will throw mud at everything they dislike. They insult the author, disparage the sources, misquote the writing, and generally propose fallacious arguements to justify their position.

Often they have something to say but can not frame their meaning so they insult the writer. Worse they seem afraid their arguements can not stand debate and attempt to stifle it. Unfortunately we seldom have the opportunity to learn what their point of view is, other than the world is wrong and they are right.

I do think that literacy is a factor. I have met so many people who can read but not follow the content or structure that it is distressing. September is literacy month. Written comprehension is very important. So is taking a breath before replying to any opinion or question. Thought never hurt anyone.
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Colin Speth
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12:17 AM on 09/13/2012
Well said. however there is nothing wrong with disparaging an author if he or she deliberately misconstrues or omits facts in order to bolster an already tenuous argument or to advance his or her partisan agenda. It's not just those who comment that may have a problem with content and structure, as this site demonstrates quite often.
01:55 PM on 09/12/2012
There is no doubt in my mind that there is no country which cannot be seduced into acting the way the Nazis did. Propoganda was his forte and he happened to live in an era when it could be used in an extremely effective way. The Hutus and the Tutsi went from living side by side to a slaughter of the most primitive sort and one that would have amazed the Nazis with just a bit of propganda. Religions hate other religions and children are always taught how right the religion of their family is and how wrong the religion of another family is. Everybody wants to think they are inherently better because they belong to a certain group. If you agree with them and tell them other groups are weakening them they will rise up and kill. It has been going on since the first day of recorded time.
01:10 PM on 09/12/2012
Economic policy and social policy are separate questions, altogether.

Hitler was not evil because he felt he should stand out of the way of business (right) but because he had VERY STRONG opinions about how society, how people ought to be organized. (up)
01:08 PM on 09/12/2012
Hitlee was not a right wing extremist, he was a moderate economic libertarian and there are American politicians further right than was, but he was all the way UP on the social scale (Yes, up/down. That secret 2nd-dimension that the political mainstream doesn't want you to know about!)
11:48 AM on 09/12/2012
I always find it humorous when arguments go that way. However, to simply dismiss by saying, "it is also insensitive and a slap in the face to all who suffered under that regime." does not take into account the complexities of the movement.

We can try to live by the axiom that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. So, if there are similarities beyond genocide and persecution, why not bring them up?

That said, I believe that deference to those who suffered must be considered. And considered knowledgeably and intelligently. for the most part, terms like "Nazi", "Hitler", and "Fascist" are thrown around with little understanding of what they really mean. They are simply irrelevant shaming tactics and speak more to the person using the tactic than the one they are attacking.
09:25 AM on 09/12/2012
Regarding Bernie Farber's column suggesting, quite reasonably that we not compare everyone we disagree with to Hitler and Nazi's. I do have some hesitation to fully endorse this suggestion. 99% of these comparisions are purely emotionally charged hyperbole where apples are being compared to arsenic. But Hitler didn't "invent" fascism on his own as a way of annihilating the entire Jewish population, not to mention 20 million Russians. It did start out as a right wing political movement both in Italy and Germany, that came about in response to ridiculously bad economic conditions. When we actually compare the economic policies of fascism, especially as they were originally invisioned by Moussilini then there are comparisons to be made to the current hard right take over of the Republican Party and the slightly less severe right ring rhetoric and policies of the Stephen Harper Conservatives. I am cognizant of the old saying "only in studying history....." I think looking for and finding those early signs of reactive right wing extremism in the context of economic turbulence, that can lead down a path toward fascist-like economic policies is warranted. In fact, it is a duty.