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Why Not Just Ditch the Monarchy?

Posted: 10/20/2011 6:22 pm

Canada finally has the opportunity to gracefully ditch the monarchy, and it's all thanks to gender equality.

Last week, the British prime minister asked Stephen Harper and the leaders of the 14 other countries of the Commonwealth to change the Act of Succession so the firstborn child of the royals, regardless of gender, can become the head of state.

While the move is welcome and significant, more than anything it shows how wildly absurd the continuance of the monarchy is in Canada.

In a letter to the other Commonwealth leaders, who all need to approve the change to the Act of Succession, David Cameron wrote, "We espouse gender equality in all other aspects of life and it is an anomaly that in the rules relating to the highest public office we continue to enshrine male superiority."

Seeing as Jews, Sikhs, Catholics, Athiests, Unitarians and all sorts of other people can never take the throne, one assumes Cameron is perfectly fine with the Commonwealth continuing its tradition of enshrining the superiority of the Anglican faith.

On top of that, it remains true that heirs to the throne are chosen based solely on whose vagina from which they arrived in the living world. It appears the British prime minister is also okay with that method of appointment.

While the United Kingdom has a long history of living within a rigid and ridiculous class system, Canada is a country that prizes, at least in theory, meritocratic beliefs, multiculturalism, and sanity in state decisions. It is, therefore, disingenuous of us to allow our heads of state to be chosen in the manner we do.

There should be no job in Canada that is not available to any Canadian citizen willing to do the work to earn the position, so Canada should refuse to consent to a change in the Act of Succession unless it is a complete overhaul of how the kings and queens of Canada are selected.

That leaves us with two options we can politely suggest to the British prime minister: succession based on election or government appointment or the complete abolition of the monarchy in Canada.

What is most sensible would be a combination of the two ideas, dropping the monarchy but retaining the appointed position of governor-general. Unless there's some reason why we need to have foreigners visit us every few years to collect flowers from strangers and hijack all our available media space, there's no reason not to harness this opportunity and extricate ourselves from the mess of monarchy.

 

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Canada finally has the opportunity to gracefully ditch the monarchy, and it's all thanks to gender equality. Last week, the British prime minister asked Stephen Harper and the leaders of the 14 other...
Canada finally has the opportunity to gracefully ditch the monarchy, and it's all thanks to gender equality. Last week, the British prime minister asked Stephen Harper and the leaders of the 14 other...
 
 
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05:09 PM on 11/14/2011
There is no logical argument to be made in defence of a monarchy. It is simply a rement of history.
02:09 PM on 10/21/2011
The Queen and her family own a huge amount of real estate (not to mention other valuables) that would enshrine them as a tourist attraction even without the honour of the monarchy. As a student of history I think it does no harm to retain such institutions as they link us to our past and teach us valuable lessons for the future.

The Royal family is a huge tourist draw and individually do a great deal of charity work and fund raising....what is the harm in that. Most folks would not want that job even if they could have it. I say sign the new rules and let them be.
02:38 PM on 10/22/2011
Explain how any of that relates to Canada or how any of it would change if even the UK became a republic?
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anugs
12:22 PM on 10/21/2011
If you want to do it have a referendum and let the people decide. I for one remember that the UK was responsible for us not being part of the Good old U.S. of A. Look at the efn pickle they're in right now. I say retain the monarchy. If you want to get rid of it, do it via a referendum not by a vote in the House of Commons. God save the Queen.
02:42 PM on 10/22/2011
The constitution would have to be amended to allow a referendum to be the decider. Canada would first need a referendum to allow a referendum. Silly isn't it? In 1982, monarchists succeeded in making it as difficult as possible to end the monarchy in Canada. Right now, if 99% of Canadians wanted to get rid of it, we couldn't. Monarchists aren't a democratic bunch, really. So the first step is to either throw out the amending formula or find away to get around it.
08:24 AM on 10/21/2011
I'm neither Canadian nor British... but just out of curiosity, why would on eliminate the monarch as head of state but retain a governor-general?

Of all possibilities, that would seem to be least sensible, by a long shot. In the absence of a monarch, there's simply no role for a vice-regal, viceroy, or governor-general.

If Canada were to become a parliamentary republic, wouldn't Canadians want to retain the PM as head of government and perhaps choose a president as head of state?
10:33 AM on 10/21/2011
Ahh, hello? How about a parliamentary republic? ie; ceremonial president with some constitutional reserve power - kind of like a GG :) - a prime minister as head of government. This is how most republics work: Ireland, India, Germany, Portugal, Iceland, Italy, Poland, Israel, .....
10:50 AM on 10/21/2011
Your writing style leaves me unsure of your meaning.

But a Governor General, whether ceremonial or not, does not exist in a parliamentary republic. Presidents and other "head of state" officials do, but not Governors General.
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Mike Marlin
Good Spouse, Good Fishing,Good Friends,Proud Nativ
06:43 AM on 10/21/2011
I think if mr macbride wants to win people over to his viewpoint in this discussion he should point out some positives in getting rid of the monarchy. Instead of just writing a negative based article on what he feels is bad about our current constituti­onal monarchy system. Although I am not sure if my viewpoint would be changed since I like our current system, I am sure that I would be more open to a discussion on it if some positive possible changes where given instead of a simple this is wrong , that is wrong approach that this article offers
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john frodo
armchair expert
09:28 AM on 10/21/2011
How about saving about $50 million on average per year for Royal Babysitting gifts and exchanges.
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Mike Marlin
Good Spouse, Good Fishing,Good Friends,Proud Nativ
08:50 PM on 10/21/2011
John although I don't agree with getting rid of the Monarchy in Canada I at least give you credit that you brought up a positive for that stand. Even if it is one that I do not agree with.
05:14 AM on 10/21/2011
As a strong Monarchist I wish Canada would go it alone and stop these silly articles. Canadians do not understand a Monarchy, because of comparatively little history and appreciation of the of the facts already posted here. That "Colony" attitude went out years ago but you see it is still brought up. If it is to be " Go Canada Go," the best of luck.. you will regret spoiling this great country.
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HegelRightSideUp
A living wage is a right.
09:48 AM on 10/21/2011
Why exactly would I support an institution that has as its fundamental premise the inequality and oppression of people?
10:36 AM on 10/21/2011
Most Canadians don't understand the monarchy because they're too smart. The whole concept defies logic. The only ones who support it do so blindly and without any rational thought. Kind of like the Flat Earth Society. :)
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
01:21 AM on 10/21/2011
Typical of the mentality that wants to become American. Canada has worked it out and I prefer a constitutional monarchy as well. As a pressing issue for Canadians? Nope. Even Harper went with more ties to the royal side of naming so this only comes from the minds of republicans who without concern or interest in social or society or climate change or peak oil, literally have nothing else to think about
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feuille derable
La République du Canada
03:52 AM on 10/21/2011
Seriously, is that your best argument in support of a british monarch... that we secretly want to become American? If you're so hung up on it, move to to the UK and let the rest of us celebrate our national identity. It will happen.... you know it will.
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cwebster
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04:31 PM on 10/21/2011
Why should he/she move? My family has been here for more than 400 years and I don't why things should change.
if it works, don't fix it.
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Skepticat
Supporting skeptical felines everywhere
09:17 AM on 10/21/2011
So the only reason to keep a foreign monarch who visits for a few days every 5 years or so and have images of monarchs plastered on our currency is because we don't want to be Americans. Pretty lame excuse even from a monarchist. It's sad that there are people living here who believe that Canada has absolutely no identity or tradition of its own and depends on foreign dysfunctional royals for an identity different from Americans.
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cwebster
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01:11 AM on 10/21/2011
No thanks. I like being a constitutional monarchy. Makes us a bit different from the neighbours.
08:18 AM on 10/21/2011
We need to stop forging our identity based on how we are not like our neighbours to the south and start promoting ideas and characteristics that are uniquely Canadian. A monarchy is not one of these things.
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cwebster
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04:32 PM on 10/21/2011
That's not my reason. I think our system works better than theirs, and that isn't where we need changes.
What needs to change is our electoral system. Harper got a majority, with 39% of the vote. That is wrong.
11:56 PM on 10/20/2011
Unless there is an Occupy Buckingham Palace movement I dont think anyone will do anything while Queen Elizabeth is still alive.

After that who knows...

My own personal opinion is that the monarchy will wind itself up after the Queen is gone. How long after I dont know.
11:33 PM on 10/20/2011
Quote : "Unless there's some reason why we need to have foreigners visit us every few years to collect flowers from strangers and hijack all our available media space,"

Mr. McBride obviously has little knowledge of the history of Canada. or the fact that without the British Canada would have been absorbed into the US. Our first Prime Minister was a Scottish immigrant. So we can hardly call the British "foreigners" . The commonwealth nations promote friendship and co-operation between nations, a positive force , in the world.
A governor general divorced from our head of state would be a meaningless position. Those who study our system of government realise that the present situation brings many benefits, and needs no change.
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Craig MacBride
01:12 AM on 10/21/2011
As a Scottish-born Canadian, I'm well aware of the British influence, and especially the Scottish influence, on Canada, but we have grown beyond it. We are no longer a colony. As for the GG being a meaningless position without the Queen/King, I'd argue it's not particularly meaningful now. The position has whatever authority you give it.
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feuille derable
La République du Canada
04:04 AM on 10/21/2011
Lighten up. It was meant to be a little bit funny.

Vive le Canada libre!
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john frodo
armchair expert
08:00 PM on 10/20/2011
Lets do it on facebook
10:41 AM on 10/21/2011
Citizens for a Canadian Republic, the partner movement to all the republican organizations in Aus, NZ and UK is on Facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/CanRepublic.RepubliqueCan
06:19 PM on 10/20/2011
As much sense as your suggestion makes, and likely having the support of a majority of Canadians it just isn't going to happen. For the reason that changes along the lines you are suggesting would require opening the Constitution and no one wants to go there.
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Skepticat
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09:21 AM on 10/21/2011
Unfortunately the one thing Canadians are even more opposed to than pretend allegiance to foreign royals is the preening and posturing of our polticians at constitutional conferences. Fanned and faved for providing unfortunate realism.
10:49 AM on 10/21/2011
Completely untrue: In May, 2010, an Angus Reid Public Opinion national poll said a majority of Canadians (52%) support reopening Canada’s constitutional debate to discuss the possibility of replacing the monarch with an elected head of state. Only one third (32%) are opposed.

Link to poll:
http://www.visioncritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/2010.05.25_Monarchy_CAN.pdf
01:01 PM on 10/21/2011
The point is that from a practical perspective the constitution cannot be opened for just one change as it is recognized that all sorts of trade-offs would be necessary to get that through. For example, even though Quebec has no particular affection for the monarchy it might hold out for more powers before saying that it would sign, as a negotiating tactic. Then other provinces might object to that. It all stems from the attempt by the Mulroney government to implement the Meech Lake Accord into the constitution which failed with the effect of increasing separatist sentiment in Quebec when just the opposite was intended. That is the reason no one wants to open the constitution and why Prime Minister Harper is making his changes to the Senate outside the constitution. It is not entirely clear as to whether these changes are constitutional as they have not been challenged in court.

A survey showing 52% of Canadians in favour of re-opening the 'constitutional debate' (note that is not the same as actually opening the constitution itself to changes) is insufficient to actually do so. There would likely be provincial objections as the federal government plus seven provinces with 70% of the population would be necessary as a minimum to change the constitution. Still not likely to happen.