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The War Against Remembrance Day

Posted: 11/11/11 01:00 PM ET

Sometimes we celebrate the war dead.

Sometimes we honour the war dead.

But these days, we - that is to say, those Canadians who deeply care about those
soldiers who made the supreme sacrifice -are increasingly finding ourselves in a
position in which we must defend the war dead.

This is a perverse scenario. Yet, in recent years, cultural vandals have engaged
in all manners of ideological warfare - from the war on Christmas to the war on
Halloween. Disturbingly, a new target has emerged in their crosshairs: the war
on Remembrance Day. The progressive foot soldiers of this war are armed with
naivety and self-loathing. And they wear their ignorance like a badge of honour.

Examples abound. Some folks have taken to wearing white poppies. Not only do
these people misappropriate a semi-sacred symbol, but they mock what it stands
for, claiming there can be no such thing as a just war and that all armed conflict is
bad.

If The Greatest Generation subscribed to that way of thinking some 70 years ago,
most of Europe would be conversing in German today. In this regard, it is fitting
those so-called "alternative" poppies are white - the same colour as the flag of
surrender.

Then there are those who simply can't be bothered to wear any sort of poppy, due
to warped new-age ideology blended with good old-fashioned ingratitude.

These critics scoff at November 11th, interpreting Remembrance Day as being
a day in which militarism is glorified. They believe that if we could all just sit
cross-legged in a healing circle and talk things out, hassles would be a thing of the
past. But there's no tangible benefit in "flower power" when it comes to dealing
with those tyrants and terrorists who are hell-bent on everything from invasion to
genocide.

Such thinking isn't merely wrong or offensive. It's downright vulgar.

Indeed, when I think of the lunatic fringe that chooses not to respectfully
remember Remembrance Day, I think of my late grandfather who sacrificed five
years of his life fighting in the Second World War. In the 1960s, I was a kid who
grew up reading war comics and watching afterschool reruns of The Rat Patrol.
And I used to deeply resent the fact that my grandfather was so damn miserly when
it came to sharing stories about his real-life wartime exploits in Egypt and Italy.

"C'mon - tell me a war story, Pop!" I'd plead.

I wanted to hear of machineguns blazing and grenades exploding and bad guys
being blown to smithereens. And upon each request, my grandfather would shrug,
saying he really didn't have any good wartime yarns whatsoever.

I reckoned this to be a crock, because I had once stumbled upon a small,
nondescript cardboard box in the linen closet that contained my grandfather's
medals. And damnit, he sure didn't earn those medals by making hot chocolate.
What gives?

Amazingly, my friends told me that their grandfathers were also unforthcoming
with tales of wartime heroics, too. It was downright confounding. After all, comic
book publishers and Hollywood made war look so damn cool. Why wouldn't our
grandfathers share their stories?

In fact, all I can ever remember my grandfather saying about the war were two
anecdotes.

One: In his estimation, Sikhs were - by far - the very best soldiers on the planet.
He told me the Sikh soldiers he came in contact with were absolutely fearless
warriors who embraced the proviso of "death before dishonour." He saw many of
them die on the battlefield in what were essentially suicide missions. And yet, not
a single one of these soldiers ever questioned his orders or deserted his unit. Even
though their loyalty came with an enormous price-tag, there was still something so
very endearing about men embracing such dedication to duty.

The second story was anything but a military conquest steeped in glory. Rather,
it centred on a stupid, deadly accident. Marching in the Sahara, my grandfather's
unit noticed a low-flying American bomber aircraft passing overhead. The soldiers
began to wave at their ally in the sky. But much to their horror, the plane's bomb
bay doors creaked open and ordinance plummeted to earth. The soldiers made a
run for cover. When the dust settled, a sergeant - who my grandfather described
as "very short and very unpleasant" - had a piece of shrapnel lodged firmly in
his helmet. He had died instantly. Although the sergeant was a highly unlikable
individual, my grandfather nevertheless always seemed bothered that a man could
perish in such a completely senseless way.

It was after my grandfather died years later that I began to comprehend his
aversion to reciting war stories. Despite what Hollywood fare would have you
believe, war is seldom glorious. Rather, it's a very messy, very deadly kind of
business, one in which only the Grim Reaper benefits.

I don't think the new-age peaceniks would ever be able to understand my
grandfather and his ilk - men who went to war not because they wanted to but
because they had to.

What the anti-poppy crowd doesn't get is that the biggest advocates for peace are
indeed war veterans. They experienced firsthand the horror that is war and fully
know war is only undertaken when all else fails.

Our soldiers gave so much. We have benefited so much.

Is it really too much to ask that on this day we don a little crimson flower to
honour these giants before they fade away forever?

 
 
 
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05:19 PM on 11/12/2011
Mr. Menzies, you both misunderstand and misrepresent what the white poppy means. I would suggest you do some thorough research before you speak on this topic again.

On another note, I would like to introduce a law whereby the military-aged children of politicians who vote for Canadian forces to be involved in military actions have their children conscripted. Perhaps they would be less likely to support wars when their own children were at risk.
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01:06 AM on 11/13/2011
Well, you say one thing.....and then go straight on and prove Mr. Menzies was perfectly correct about the white poppy.
03:49 PM on 11/12/2011
If Rememberance Day was about honoring our veterans then we'd call it Veteran's Day. It's more than honoring our soldiers. Rememberance Day is about remembering that we cannot allow occurances like WWII. We can't allow bullies, tyrants, and terrorists to beat, bully, and murder the downtrodden, the innocent, and the weak. Sometimes this requires us to act first. Sometimes it requires military action. This is because many people aren't willing to change their ways unless they lose something. They aren't willing to sit down and talk. They aren't willing to fold to a bluff. Fortunately for us. Canada has never entered a war that they started. Afghanistan, Korea, WWII, WWI were all wars started by someone else.

Rememberance Day isn't a day of celebration. It's a day to remember that peaceful societies like Canada's are a rarity. It's a day to mourn those who've tried to make the world a better place.
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02:14 AM on 11/14/2011
Ask those who were brutally forced to "study" in residential school what they think about "peaceful" Canada.

Canada has never been peaceful. We've killed, raped and stole land from the first nation people. Why do you think Harper regime sympathizes with Israelis? we're like them, the colonizers!

Read some history son.
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The Canadian
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03:32 PM on 11/12/2011
David Menzies, your disdain for people who won't wear a poppy is arrogant and disgusting.

I served in the Canadian Infantry, 3rd Battalion, PPCLI, and I don't ever wear a poppy nowadays. According to you, I guess that is "due to warped new-age ideology blended with good old-fashioned ingratitude."

No, it's because what I came to appreciate in my service is that being a VOLUNTEER soldier is a thoroughly dishonorable profession. Nothing else comes close.

Your job is to kill. Period. You'd think after WWI, WWII, the Korean War and all the other wars since that people will finally get what war is. And yet, all over the world, people in every country willingly sign up to become soldiers.

How do we respect this? Many of the men I served with were family men and professed themselves to devote be Christians, yet there they were, in an organization whose sole purpose is to kill others. And anyone who has even the rudimentary knowledge of military operations knows that civilians still bear the brunt of combat. Look in Iraq and Afghanistan. The ratio of killed enemy soldiers to civilian collateral deaths is appalling.

Remembrance Day sugercoats the brutality of war with a sweet, nostalgic sadness that is nauseating. Instead of poppies, people should wear photos of dead and mutilated children killed by modern 'surgical' war if they really want to remember what war is, and why it needs to end.
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12:19 AM on 11/13/2011
Truer words have never been spoken. Thank you very much for your honesty.
12:28 AM on 11/14/2011
Thank you so much for speaking up. Mr. Menzies still doesn't understand why his grandfather didn't want to tell him his war stories. He still doesn't understand how Remembrance Day sanitizes and sentimentalizes war, cynically using WWII - which has been written into the history books as a "good war" ( hmm, I wonder who wrote that history) - to distract everyone from the senseless wars that have been waged since then.
10:37 PM on 11/11/2011
Seems to me the author still likens the idea of killing people to playing with toy soldiers. My interpretation of remembrance day is that war is horrible, and that it should be avoided in all cases except to free victims from oppression. Wars of recent are justified by lies and profiteering, they are an embarrassment to anyone who cares for peace. The wars we are engaged in now are wars where we are the oppressors and the 'enemies' are the victims.
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11:43 PM on 11/11/2011
Strange...that was not the impression I took from the article. It seemes to me that the author said the same thing that you said in your second sentence.
10:04 PM on 11/11/2011
My father too was one of those veterans who found it difficult to tell war stories when pestered by his five boys. It was not a pleasant experience for him. His nightmares still keeping him awake at night 20 years after the war had ended. He spent the last 9 months of the war in a German prisoner of war camp and was taken out on a stretcher once the camp was liberated. He saw friends die. On Remembrance Day we honour our war dead, those that made the ultimate sacrifice. Skip the white poppies. It is misguided.

On another note, I guess my only disconnect with today`s wars is the bumper stickers and car magnets that read, ``Support Our Troops``. It is a political game cleverly popularized by conservatives and hawks that implies that we dishonour and disrespect our men and women in uniform if we choose not to support unpopular wars such as Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes I am respectful of our military but please don`t tarnish the image of our military with political wordplay such as Support Our Troops.
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08:54 PM on 11/11/2011
Question to the author: how are we benefitting from our troops aiding an imperial power torture/maim and murder people in Afghanistan and Libya?

I'm really curious to know your answer.
03:54 PM on 11/12/2011
We aren't. That's the point. As Canadians, we are willing to give up our lives to make the world a better place for others. With absolutely no benefit to ourselves.

We're not torturing, maiming, or murdering innocents in Afghanistan or Libya. However Al Qaeda was doing that so we overthrew them. Ghadaffi was murdering, maiming, and torturing his own people so we helped overthrow him.

Your lack of knowledge both disgusts and saddens me. Your need for personal gain makes me want you to go back to Iran. Even if you've never been there.
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05:33 PM on 11/13/2011
Stop reading National Post and instead examine the facts on the ground for yourself.

You're incredibly naive to think that we went to Afghanistan/Libya to liberate the people there from "dictators". The only reason our troops are there is to support the imperial projects of America. At least Chretien was not as morally corrupted as Stephen Hubris to join Americans in genocide in Iraq - 1.5 million innocent death.

Yeah we went do Libya to liberate them right! man you conservatives are really something. We went there because Gadaffi was getting in our way to profit from THEIR prime natural resource: oil. Why do you think Mr. Baird the minister of foreign affairs took more than 40 business leaders" on his recent trip to Libya?

Listen, I don't respect people whose sole existence in life is to murder, kill and destroy people. I'm against brutality and its instruments: deployed armed forces. You of course are entitled to your delusions of grandeur.
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06:09 PM on 11/13/2011
You really think Canadian bullets only hit bad guys? Are mushrooms free in your magical wonderland, too?

Also, you really think Canada hasn't gained financially from their presence in Afghanistan ad Libya? Heck, there were articles just last week with Canadian officials talking openly about the financial benefits of aiding the 'rebels' in Libya.
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08:53 PM on 11/11/2011
The most ridiculous "argument" I've come to across. Celebrating violence, promoting culture of force and it's instruments are advocating for peace?

I've never worn a poppy and will never ever wear one. Peace is the answer NOT VIOLENCE.
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11:47 PM on 11/11/2011
I wear the poppy to remember all who died in war, civilian and military, and in the hope that we won't go through this again. I am not celebrating the war, but the end of it.
03:56 PM on 11/12/2011
Your right. Peace is the answer. But not everyone agrees with you. Some people won't stop the violence unless you kill them. What do you propose we do with those?
08:35 PM on 11/11/2011
This article bugs me. There is no "War on Remembrance Day" nor is there any war on Christmas or Halloween. The author has chosen an exceedingly small group of people whom he has quite rightly described as a "lunatic fringe" and used them as an excuse to get onto his soapbox to loudly proclaim something the vast majority of Canadians agree with, and is clearly obvious. What's the point?
07:28 PM on 11/11/2011
When I remember 1914-1918 I remember a war whose beginning can be traced back to at least 1853 - the Crimean war - and perhaps further back than that. WWI was a war which should never have taken place. It was an appalling loss of life which was unnecessary. If there had not been a WWI there would have been no WWII and no holocaust. We should be very careful before we decide to go to war. Churchill said that jaw, jaw was better then war war. But have we really learned the lessons from the past? Many wars are given justification after the event. The Iraq war, which was to get rid of (non-existent) WMD, is clearly a case in point. Going to war not only results in many people losing their lives for no good cause but also is very costly. If the US had not been waging wars over the last 10 years they would not have the economic problems they now have. Is it worth it? History tells us no but Politicians forever get us into these messes and then try to justify them. And the toll on the forces, who are also victims, is unforgivable and those finally are the people we need to remember because, however misguided, they were prepared to sacrifice everything for their coountry.
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The Canadian
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03:46 PM on 11/12/2011
You make very good points here. History shows that almost any war could have been prevented, even just wars like WWII. About the only war in the past 500 years or so that I think was even close to being necessary was the American Civil War, and even that is debatable, because it didn't start over the issue of slaves, but over power jockeying between the States.

I served in the Canadian Infantry, and after three years service I had to confront the issue that what I did for a living was totally at odds with my supposed core beliefs. I truly believe it is wrong to kill, so how could I be in the Army when that is its core purpose.

I joined because it was a family tradition, but what sort of tradition is that? When I look at my family tree, my ancestors were involved in wars all over the world, mainly to help build the British Empire. So where was the honour in that?

A final straw was coming across the book, "War is a Racket", by Marine General Smedley Butler, who was a two-time Congressional Medal of Honor winner and is still the most decorate Marine in US history. He had nothing good to say about his 30 year career, and he spoke from a position of unimpeachable authority.

If people want wars to end, then people need to start refusing to be soldiers, period.
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07:02 PM on 11/11/2011
I thinl Wilfred Owen said it best:

If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

The lie needs to die.
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04:29 PM on 11/11/2011
"...Some folks have taken to wearing white poppies. Not only do
these people misappropriate a semi-sacred symbol..."

NO they do NOT. The white poppy goes back to 1933 when the Co-operative Women's Guild in Britain sought to not only remember lost loved ones they also sought to end war. It also remembers non-military deaths because of war.
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02:38 PM on 11/11/2011
I'm an air force brat with multiple relatives from multiple wars and what David says is true. A vet may believe they fought for the right reasons but that doesn't mean they believe every war is just or that they would support war as the first choice to solve a problem. It's been my experience since Vietnam that the people all gung ho to send young men and women off to war are most frequently civilians who's experience with combat is from John Wayne movies.

It's been decades since I've set foot on a base but just like your hometown where the military is mine and every time I hear taps I cry or see a flag at half mast it reminds me of how many of my neighbours died, not only in war, but in peace time as well. I thank them all.