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Groupon's Latest "Deal?" Torture Porn

Posted: 04/24/2012 2:07 pm

Groupon has stooped to an all-time low and is in danger of losing its customer base unless it changes course. For the second time this year, it is teaming up with torture pornography producer, Kink, selling tours of Kink's San Francisco building and production studio. Because of this, Porn Harms and Morality in Media have announced a nationwide boycott of Groupon.

Pornography's purpose is primarily the sexual exploitation of women and children for pleasure of men. Numerous scientific studies now demonstrate that pornography consumption contributes to many societal ills, such as violence against women and misogyny, addiction for adults and children, sexual trafficking and so much more. The website PornHarmsResearch.com substantiates these claims by offering a wealth of peer-reviewed scientific studies on porn's harm. Kink's pornography though takes sexual exploitation and harm to a new, lower level.

Kink sells the sickest of hardcore videos and live online performances of "young, sexy teens who are overwhelmed and outnumbered...who need to learn a lesson by multiple men." The teens and women, according to Kink, are, "bound, whipped, objectified and humiliated ... suspended and tied in rope bondage...tormented beyond all reason ...pulled in and out of cages, their tongues clamped, their bodies pinned."

Kink also brags on its site that, "contraptions used in countries such as China for torture" as well as machines, metal, wood, electrodes, hooks, needles and urination are its objects of female torture. Kink claims the women they abuse actually enjoy being tortured and it prides itself on the fact that it works with female directors. The fact is that the these women directors have completely accepted the male pornographers' views of women and shoot the same misogynistic and abusive content as men, failing to make the industry any more female friendly.

Groupon's response? What's not to like!?

Well, close to that. When confronted with concerns about Kink, Groupon defended the company, saying in response to the boycott: "We thoroughly vet the businesses we feature... Fortunately, this business has proven to be a responsible member of their community... We feel that because the business is an active good community citizen..."

Thoroughly vetted? This raises the obvious question: Does Groupon have any women in senior management? If so, its time to speak up at the staff meetings, or, if they are too timid do defend womanhood, move out of the boys-will-be-boys culture of Groupon.

The company is worthy of a national boycott and, until it announces a change of policy (and maybe a change in senior management,) our boycott will succeed in costing the company money and customers.

Where is Groupon's sense of corporate responsibility? Could it possibly believe its considerable fan base supports Kink's treatment of women? Instead of defending Kink, Groupon should be thinking of its wider commercial audience, most of whom, unlike Groupon, would not support the torture and humiliation of women and girls for the sexual enjoyment of disturbed men.

I understand that the company is experiencing financial difficulty, with its stock price nearly cut in half since its public offering last November. But I say, let it fall to $0 if that's what it takes to learn this simple lesson. The sexual humiliation of women is not a successful financial strategy.

 
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RuinedSaint
11:40 AM on 05/23/2012
Kink-dot-com gives tours..? Cool. Sign me up.
01:11 AM on 05/15/2012
BDSM is not torture, it is a consentual act. Unfortunately, people who practice the BDSM culture are discriminated against much like gays were discriminated against until recently.
07:31 PM on 05/03/2012
Torture porn? Are they showing The Passion of the Christ?
08:41 PM on 05/01/2012
What if it was men...greasing themselves up and hitting each other. Proudly parading their bloodlust in a carnival type atmosphere. OH WAIT.... its called wrestling!! Lets let our children watch it and put it on prime time!! After all, its the purpose of wrestling is sexual exploitation of men AND woman for the pleasure of the whole family.

Oh wait again!!.... maybe its not real... **facepalm**

But seriously, Groupons is new to me and now that I know that they do buisness with a reputable buisness like kink, I might just check them out!
08:36 PM on 04/29/2012
After reading this, I will definitely subscribe to Groupon. Kink.com is all performed SSC - Safe, Sane, and CONSENSUAL!!! Anyone who does not know or understand this is simply not informed. Most of these girls ENJOY being in these films!
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07:14 PM on 04/27/2012
I am involved in the BDSM scene as a dominant woman. I abhor submitting to men. And I am aware of how many strong minded, feminist, powerful women LOVE to submit - as many who showcase on that site do. I love Vanessa Pinto's quote in her response to your article:

"I find it insulting that Hawkins is taking the position that women who do porn are doing so because of men and have no idea what, if anything, they are doing to themselves. That statement implies that women do not know how to think for themselves, which is an insulting and degrading statement."

I do not understand how extreme radical feminists cannot see the inherent hypocrisy and control in this stance.

And for as many of your so called peer reviewed studies that say porn causes harm, I can find just as many that show that having the outlet of porn prevents crime and abuse.
07:55 PM on 04/26/2012
Porn induced erectile dysfunction is increasing in men. Men may have a more difficult time getting an erection for a live partner. They also may become impotent even using porn. The good news is it's reversible. Google ( or whatever search engine you'd like to use) it. Also, those participating in anal sex and undergoing repeated colon preps...please take care of your kidneys. Been seeing an increase of kidney failure in my medical practice as a result of it.
04:38 PM on 04/26/2012
DocManahattan- I disagree because people who think simplistically like Dawn will boycott Groupon based on her hysterical hyperbole. So, she will be successful in getting narrowed minded fundamentalists to boycott Groupon, but luckily the majority of this country is open minded, thoughtful citizens, who can see through this garbage.

Also, anytime a group points to one thing as the reason for societal ills and problems it is dangerous because you are not viewing the whole picture. EXAMPLES; child abuse, bullying, violent video games, porn, bad parenting, nature, alcohol, drugs, sex, masturbation, religion, atheism, etc etc. Lets face it, life is hard and complicated and the sooner a person like Dawn accepts this premise the happier they are going to be and the more good they can do to improve society. It is impossible to categorize life into simple boxes. I wish we could, because it would be so much easier.
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03:59 PM on 04/26/2012
Most people I know who are into this sort of Bondage are woman. Who would have thought.
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12:30 AM on 04/26/2012
I think it odd that commenters here have dismissed Groupon on the basis of a glance at the new groupon offering knowing little about it. Groupon is a reputable company, no? If they have vetted something, they have taken appropriate steps to research carefully successful businesses and markets to ensure products are legitimate and not harmful before offering deals. If the commenters used the same approach as Groupon does instead of a mere glance at companies offering deals, I would suggest a lot of them making negative comments would merely express a dislike of the product and move on to some other thread. To suggest Groupon has added this product without appropriate research calls into question the legitimacy of all other participating companies.
02:45 PM on 04/26/2012
If they did appropriate research on this Grouporn deal, they failed.
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04:49 PM on 04/26/2012
Then we have no idea what other shady businesses participate in this scheme. Travel agencies, restaurants, gas stations, drug stores, grocery chains, etc.

What can you tell us about the aforementioned Kink business that Groupon and other commenters on this thread have not told us. Hint: You'll need to do some extensive reading before you answer this one.
12:59 AM on 05/27/2012
It seems Dawn Hawkins failed to properly do research on kink before writing her opinion piece. It does not appear she did anything other than a superficial scan of the kink website, and her comments indicate she missed entire sections of the site and kink's offerings since she only focuses on one part of their offerings. If she were serious about her complaints about vetting she should research the company, not just the website, and better yet tour the Armory herself so her opinion is properly informed. Kink has been in business for years in SF and has established credentials.
06:26 PM on 04/25/2012
This post troubles me for many reasons. However, I doubt it was the intent of the author to raise these troubles.

The author, as others have already pointed out, explains that the primary purpose of pornography is to exploit women and children for the sexual benefit of men. Patently false. While it is true that more men purchase porn and men tend to view porn more frequently, the purpose of porn is not to exploit women or children.

The author contends that women are always exploited in porn as the weaker person. Once again, very untrue. Kink has several lines of porn titles which feature women exclusively, feature women as dominant over men, or include no women at all. Gay men, as much as straight men, enjoy pornography.

The article implies that porn actors do not choose to be in the adult entertainment industry. While I'm sure there are some actors who would prefer a different line of work, the majority enjoy their work and choose to continue in it.

The author apparently has a particular distaste for Kink as a company and pornographers that make fetish porn. Kink is very concerned with the well-being and treatment of their models and actors. Not every studio has such stringent policies promoting the safety of performers. The author is wrong to imply that Kink is causing harm and abuse to the women performing in their films: Kink causes no harm or abuse to the performers.
03:24 PM on 04/26/2012
The majority enjoy their work??? You say that without backing up that statement. What about the minority who don't then?? How do you know which ones you're jacking off to? Does it matter to you? Or are you so "involved with your hand" that you can't bring your mind to see it?? Would you see it if suddenly you found yourself jacking off to your daughter?? Would it matter then? Or have you completely sold your soul???
04:31 PM on 04/26/2012
I'll back that statement up. I am a former(and hopefully future) model for Kink. I have worked there a dozen times and never been treated with anything but respect. Yes I have been humiliated and 'abused' on camera but it was sexually and professionally rewarding to me. The moment the camera stops I stop being a 'slave' and become an equal partner in a creative endeavor. The moment I get overwhelmed and ask to stop using my safe word or signal the filming stops and I am provided with anything I need.

I don't doubt that there are a few individuals who have not enjoyed their experience. This does not mean Kink is inherently bad. It means that we must constantly endeavor to insure that all models going in know what they are getting into and continue to maintain clear and honest communication.

Dare I sugest that many professions are more demeaning and oppressive than porn? Does your housekeeper get down on her knees to scrub your floors because she enjoys it or because she needs the money to feed her family? Is your waitresses smile because she is really happy to see you and just can't wait to carry heavy trays all evening?

It's fine if you don't want to watch porn. It's fine if you want to endeavor to provide alternate work environments for those that choose them. Just know that it is my right to objectify myself for my own reasons.
04:32 PM on 04/26/2012
The very fact that they continue to make videos (often not just a few, but dozens of titles) indicates that they have made a rational decision to continue their work in the adult entertainment industry. Those who don't, leave. It really is as simple as leaving any other job. You might not love your job, but if you like it more than you dislike it, you stay. If not, you leave.
07:50 AM on 04/27/2012
It "troubles you" that someone correctly identifies a serious dysfunctional societal tolerance for something so damaging to ALL society?
Well, that makes total sense coming from a Democrat/communist party beholderist.
07:37 PM on 06/11/2012
Oh, come ON. I'm a fifty-year-old woman and I can tell you with 100% certainty that I have not been "damaged" by porn and I don't know anybody who has. What is this "damage" you're lavishing all these hysterical crocodile tears on?

Hahaha @ "dysfunctional societal tolerance". Because a healthily functioning society has no use for open acknowledgement that people have sex.
06:11 PM on 04/25/2012
"Other people's opinion of me is none of my business" definitely applies here. Volumes of quantitative and qualitative research showing the benefits of the Leather/Kink lifestyle could be delivered to one's doorstep, but without an open mind that is willing to listen and understand, it will fall upon deaf ears. So in the meantime, I think I just might sign up for groupon.
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03:30 PM on 04/25/2012
One more step down the Road to Hell.
02:11 PM on 04/25/2012
I used Groupon constantly for our area, and I called the company and immediately cancelled their stuff from coming into my inbox. I want nothing to do with such an evil thing and I am so disappointed in them! They still keep sending me their stuff and I keep cancelling! They just don't seem to get it!
02:09 PM on 04/25/2012
So Groupon should not run a coupon because YOU don't like the product? I'm sure the women involved will be very happy to lose their jobs because YOU don't approve of what they do.

Ignoring for the moment that this article offers zero evidence of exploitation at the company being promoted, the reason women (and men) in the sex trade industry are so easily exploited is because they are marginalized by society and infantilized by people claiming to know what is in their best interest better then they do. If you care about these women then that is where your moral outrage should be directed.

If you were serious about preventing abuse you should be encouraging the kind of public tours you say Groupon was promoting. Exploitation and abuse thrive when people have to hide in the shadows not when their activities are open to the public. As long as humans have sex prostitution and pornography are *never* going to go away. Driving them further underground facilities exactly the kind of abuse you claim to want to prevent.
11:26 PM on 04/25/2012
Did it ever occur to you it might be a good thing if they lost their so-called "jobs" or is there no such thing as degradation and evil in your world, just body functions and physical needs?
12:54 PM on 04/26/2012
And I suppose you have been given the power to arbiter of all that is good then? What moral authority do you possess to make decision about other people's sexuality?
09:30 PM on 04/27/2012
Lorelei and AC Guts -
No, I am not the moral arbiter of all that is good. Good grief. I am stating that I am opposed to a company, with which I have done business, promoting a business with highly debatable ethics and actions. And that is something that everyone, at some point in their life, will likely do, for reasons of their own. At least, if they have a spine.
But since we're in the arena, I am a bit surprised, to be honest - are you really trying to convince me that prostitution and voyeurism, not to mention simulated rape, are morally ok? If so, what is your moral standard for being able to do so? You accuse me of trying to be a moral arbiter; however, you are the moral arbiter by giving moral acceptance to this while telling ME I'm wrong. To pretend that moral neutrality in such an arena, exists, is intellectually dishonest. Everyone has a moral bias regarding sex, including you!
At least I have a substantial backing: the vast majority of civilizations and religions, not to mention research we have quantifying regarding the damaging effect of such actions and their consequences (STDs, abortions, the damage to sex organs), side on the recognition of these things as moral evils.
Furthermore, I am not stating that it should be illegal or even is immoral to be interested in bondage, leather, etc. I am talking about sex as a business, and rape.