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Part 4: Hatred Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry

Posted: 12/30/11 07:32 AM ET

In this four part series exclusive to Huffington Post, novelist and essayist Douglas Anthony Cooper examines the accusations of genocide that have been made against Israel by its critics. You can read Part One: "Genghis Khan with a Computer" here, Part Two: Murder by Numbers here, and Part Three: A Matter of Lies and Death here.

The genocide libel can be innocent. I truly believe this. Many people simply do not have the relevant information. Not everyone can be expected to do historical research, and when quasi-respectable historians promote a lie, it is hardly a sin to believe them. An appalling number of decent people truly believe that Israel is committing genocide.

If you are coming into this argument late, I refer you to the beginning of Part 2 of this article, in which the numbers are laid out fully, with links to the relevant databases. The most important figures -- established with academic certainty -- are these: Approximately 15,000 have been killed over the course of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This number is accurate within a couple of thousand, and includes all Jewish and Palestinian fatalities: civilians and combatants. The number of innocent Palestinian civilians killed since 1948 is in the four figures.

These numbers have been calculated by rigorous institutions, whose sympathies lie with the Palestinian cause: They are not contested by serious scholars. I confess that I was amazed at just how low these figures are -- I found myself returning to the data again and again to check that I had not misread them. (I urge you to do so as well.) Hence, I can hardly condemn others for not pursuing them more rigorously, even if they have swallowed a vastly more bloated distortion.

It is a different matter when a liar knows that he is lying. Huffington Post member Bill Sampson, a ubiquitous "Level 2 Super User," is almost certainly less of a scholar than Norman Finkelstein -- he may not know the precise figures -- but make no mistake: He knows precisely what he is doing. Sampson is fond of spreading obscure pseudo-history -- for example, the anti-Semitic canard that Ashkenazim are all descended from converted Khazars, hence have no claim to Israel. And he is very keen on painting those Jewish interlopers as serial murderers:

"Attacking Gaza is the latest episode in its six-decade reign of terror satisfying the definition of genocide against defenseles­s Palestinia­­­n civilians."

Again, these comments appear on the Huffington Post. Not the Institute for Historical Review (a supposedly scholarly front for Holocaust denial). Not a neo-Nazi bulletin board. This is a liberal online publication, with moderated comments.

I suspect those moderators would react immediately if a contributor posted that Jews ritually slaughtered gentile children in order to use the blood in the preparation of matzo. Readers would scream. Perhaps a couple of the most malignant Israel-haters would quietly approve, but even they would be careful to stay quiet. The rest would quickly denounce the writer as a malicious, ignorant bigot.

Nevertheless it is entirely acceptable on this site to discuss the "Palestinian genocide." The genocide libel -- which is uglier than the blood libel -- is not even considered vulgar, much less impermissible. Worse, it is considered uncivilized by many not to share this bigotry. Note the following exchange between humanitarians on Huffington Post.

User gina51 opines:

"The unfortunat­e thing about this conflict is that if one sympathises with the Palestinia­ns they are immediatel­y labeled anti-semit­ic. Israel is committing genocide ...."

User "morgan1" responds immediately:

"Your statement is absolutely correct.... stating Gaza is a concentrat­ion camp does not go far enough. It is a slaughter house... They seem to take great delight in ordering people into shelters and then bombing them.... premeditat­ed genocide."

As I say: this chat may well be quite innocent. Thousands of honorable, decent liberals have swallowed Finkelstein's poison. Denouncing a crime of this nature -- on this enormous scale -- is of course admirable, and many well-intentioned people are simply not aware of the fiction they have been served by apparently reputable public intellectuals. It is different, however, if you know the truth. And now you do. I have linked to the sources. Check them yourself. You no longer have an excuse.

I do not pretend that any of my research is original, by the way. This information is distributed widely. The scholarship has been done by others. I am quite sure that many if not most of my arguments have already been made by far more qualified writers. It is crucial to stress this, as Norman Finkelstein's favorite tactic is to accuse his critics of plagiarism. I shall be disappointed if I do not draw that accusation. Please assume, before the good professor weighs in, that everything here is stolen: that I am a plagiarist, and a lousy scholar, and a wretched human being. Agreed? Lovely. We are now free to ignore the inevitable circus and to concentrate fully upon what matters here: the truth about a slandered people.

Israel is not in the same league as the world's genocidal nations. It is not in the same moral universe. It does not matter whether you use the term "genocide" accurately, or loosely, or incorrectly. To apply this term to Israel -- in any imaginable sense of the word -- is slander.

If you obsess about Israel's supposedly murderous nature, yet feel neutral about Guatemala, Angola, Brazil, Mozambique, Nigeria, Indonesia, etc. -- each of which (though arguably not guilty of genocide) is responsible for the outright massacre of at least 100,000 innocent civilians -- then you are a bigot. You may not be an anti-Semite. But you have a problem with Jews.

The genocide libel is no ordinary lie. It is impossible to tar a nation with an uglier smear. You are suggesting that a state is utterly, irrevocably evil. To permit such a nation to survive is cowardice, and the people who do so are scorned by history as quislings and appeasers. The proper response to Hitler's Germany -- the only decent response -- was to destroy it.

Huffington Post user Lenajones has learned Finkelstein's lesson: "Send the Israelis to the Hague! The Israelis are committing nothing short of genocide payed [sic] for by my own Aipac [sic] controlled government­."

You do not have to use the word "genocide" to engage in this species of libel. If you suggest that Israel is "Genghis Khan with a computer," for instance, you are saying something unambiguous. Remember that not everywhere is Hitler considered an evil man. In the Middle East, President Nasser of Egypt was hardly alone in his admiration: Anwar Sadat -- even though he later became a friend to Israel -- published a fond letter to the dead Führer in 1953. Technically, Temujin's crime may not have met the proper definition of genocide: it was less cruel. Nevertheless, if you aim to sow a hateful, incendiary equation, Finkelstein's is a far more effective analogy in that part of the world.

One of the great Muslim historians, Ali ibn al-Athir, happened to be Temujin's contemporary. He described the Mongol's sadism in words that are still widely read: Genghis Khan "spared none, slaying women, men, and children, ripping open pregnant women and killing unborn babes."

Importantly, ibn Athir wrote that this disaster was especially focused on Muslims. Temujin is described in theological terms: he was more pitiless than Dadjdjal, the Muslim anti-Christ, since he murdered indiscriminately, whereas Dadjdjal could be expected to kill only his adversaries.

Finkelstein has chosen his analogy with care. It is an exquisite lie. The blood libel pales.

Because Israel has been conflated with the most vicious regimes in history -- the Mongol Empire, the Third Reich -- many simply assume that every atrocity in the area must be a Jewish act. When an Israeli couple and their children, including a baby, were stabbed to death on the Sabbath while sleeping, Huffington Post user Anbreen -- who can always be counted on to explain Zionism -- argued that the murderer "could be a settler. Quite few [sic] of those people are whet [sic] would be called 'monsters' or 'criminall­y insane' in the US."

Surely they can be expected to murder sleeping Jews during the Sabbath. I urge you to read the entire conversation. Agreement all around.

Hamas took no credit for the butchery, but expressed "full support." When two Palestinians confessed that they had murdered the family, and had no regrets, Anbreen fell silent. Not a word from the once-eager claque. Not a single apology, despite the sickening depth of the libel.

If you put out the lie that a nation is genocidal, you strengthen its enemies. You weaken its friends. You convince otherwise well-meaning liberals that they are allied to a monster, that they enable this monster and its genocidal weaponry. Decent people do not wish to be complicit in genocide. Decent people cut off funding.

Huffington Post user "steve8072" speaks for them:

"After all, we can't let little things like Israel waging a relentless genocide campaign against the Palistinia­ns, [sic] being a state sponser [sic] of terrorism and murdering a bunch of internatio­nal humanitari­an aid volunteers come between the U.S. and our best ally."

Which is to say: if the libel succeeds, Israelis will die. Despite Norman Finkelstein's concerns about some of his best friends, who are Jews. And if the libel truly accomplishes what it must intend, Israel itself will die.

When you refer to the Israel defense forces as "jackbooted" -- that favorite slur among supposed liberals -- you are engaging in a genocide libel. Jackboots have been worn for centuries, yes, but you are suggesting something very specific: that the IDF is no better than the SS, whose special Einsatzgruppen were directly responsible for the slaughter of over a million individuals, in a focused effort to erase their people from history. It is time to retire that metaphor.

In 2003, the Polish Air Force invited their Israeli counterparts to fly, as a ritual gesture, over Auschwitz-Birkenau. The resulting photograph has become iconic: three Israeli F-15s in formation over the remains of the death camp. Jeffrey Goldberg discusses this image in an important piece in The Atlantic about Israel and Iran. David Remnick refers to it in the New Yorker.

This photograph is a kind of Rorschach test. How you respond to it says something about who you are. Many will see it as propaganda: Israel flexing its muscle in a display of jingoism. Others -- Finkelstein's friends -- will take the opportunity to ponder just how little separates Israel, in their minds, from the men who built those banks of crematoria. The first response is forgivable. The second is not.

A third is possible. These planes are flying, by invitation, over Poland: once the largest Jewish community in the world, with a population of 3,500,000 -- now for the Jews little more than a graveyard. Perhaps 5,000 remain. It represents an unexpected and bitter failure on the part of the efficient men who occupied that country that there are any Jews at all. This third response to the photograph -- and the only response with any measure of perspective -- is to regard it as the closest thing post-Biblical history has offered us to a miracle.


 
 
 

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In this four part series exclusive to Huffington Post, novelist and essayist Douglas Anthony Cooper examines the accusations of genocide that have been made against Israel by its critics. You can read...
In this four part series exclusive to Huffington Post, novelist and essayist Douglas Anthony Cooper examines the accusations of genocide that have been made against Israel by its critics. You can read...
 
 
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BananawentCrazy
06:52 PM on 01/28/2012
An amazing article. I didn't think that I would be able to read it all, but as I started I was amazed by your delightful writing skills. I felt the need to create this account especially to tell you this, although you will probably not read my comment as this aritcle is a month old already.
I sincerely hope that you continue to provide us with such articles in the future, about the Middle East conflict. It's actually pretty funny that it's called this way because many other conflicts in the Middle East were alot shorter and alot deadlier.
02:42 PM on 01/23/2012
The fact that a Novelist needs to dedicate a detailed four parts essay to combat such a claim is tragic. What is the point to logicly dispute a gruesome lie? in it's essence it is a premeditated lie ,it doesn't stand on logic nor facts so why try and fight it with logic and fact? If we live in a world where we need to explain the difference beteen 4 thousends to 40/400/4000 hundred thousends to someone then we are really at the stage of grotesque futuristic neo-intellectualism era ,where you argue at the basics of everything. I admire the writers effort but despair at his audience.
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carolineeaton
I am a Goddess who runs with the wolves
05:40 AM on 01/09/2012
(Not trying to be a late comment hog:). I also think we are living in a time that demands we confront the lies that have so conveniently permeated our lives, and in some cases dictated how we live. We are too often sheople who believe everything that is fed to us. I congratulate Mr. Cooper for his efforts to challenge an untruth.
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carolineeaton
I am a Goddess who runs with the wolves
02:23 AM on 01/09/2012
(Lost track of this series and am late with a final reply.) I am by no means a scholar on Israeli and Palestinian relations, but I never thought that Israel was committing genocide, even though I am limited in my scope of that history, and not unsympathetic to Palestinians. I find Mr. Finkelstein to be a person who exaggerates to prove his point, and I suspect he is suffering from some form of guilt. I think that people/groups of people who have been brutalized or discriminated against make much more of an effort to be fair than most because they know the sting of unfairness, and of course, extremists people/groups of people (not the majority of people) will not embrace that view because they are more hatred-centric. Mr. Cooper was elegant in his presentation. (However, he writes so well, that if he did a piece on "decorating your dog house with plastic flowers," I would read it.) Thank you Mr. Cooper:). Enjoyed it.
11:52 AM on 01/03/2012
Well done Mr Cooper! Very well written! I thought it was interesting that you compare Israel to other countries- it truly highlights how biased one is when they criticize only Israel ahead of the tens of other much more guilty countries. This article should be mandatory reading for any middle eastern studies major.
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YankeeCanuck
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03:52 PM on 01/02/2012
Amira Hass remembers the invasion of Gaza on the third anniversary. Naturally, plenty of the "usual suspects" will be howling and barking at her. But, she is a serious intellectual, and an analytical journalist--a rare combination these days. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/on-anniversary-of-gaza-war-we-will-remember-idf-soldiers-who-destroyed-palestinian-families-1.405012
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Douglas Anthony Cooper
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07:51 PM on 01/02/2012
I have little trouble with most of that piece. And it's crucial to point out that it appears in Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper.

Can you imagine that sort of critique appearing in a legal publication in Tehran? Or Damascus? Haaretz is routinely -- and intelligently -- critical of Israel. Democracies are nice that way.
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YankeeCanuck
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08:44 PM on 01/02/2012
So you don;t like Amira Hass' anaysis. So what.
Interesting that you compare Israel to Tehran and Syria. Wait a while, they'll get closer.
THe loyalty oath, segregation of the sexes, silencing of BDS voices within Israel all still up in the air.
On top of the ongoing atrocity of occupation and siege, that is.
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08:45 PM on 01/02/2012
Now you're writing like every other hasbarist. Israel is a democracy, so it OK. Well, as long as Israel controls the borders of the West Bank, it's not a democracy.

How about refuting the critique?
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
01:41 AM on 01/03/2012
yankeeC -- Amira Hess in Tokyo-Rose, just at tdiefferent time and place......and Haaretz is an Arab's newspaper published in Tel Aviv....so quoting both is like quoting Hezbollah or Hamas...
Again, when you play in fire, you get burnt..... maybe you should explain that to the Arab/palestinians.
02:25 PM on 01/02/2012
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/palestine-freedom-riders/

We Shall Overcome.

Israel is on the wrong side of history.

Aluta Continua!

Amandla! Awethu!
04:40 PM on 01/02/2012
The whole Middle-East and North Africa will be liberated from the Arab colonial occupation and peace and prosperity will come to the region!
The Arab colonial empire kaput!
06:13 AM on 01/03/2012
LOL!

Arab colonial empire? What are u smoking?
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
01:51 AM on 01/03/2012
gemma08 - keep it up, illusions are good for the dreamer......just remember Israel is strong and prosperous and there is nothing neither you nor your Arab friend can do about it....go fly a kite, you may enjoy it better..........
05:59 AM on 01/03/2012
I will remind you of this statement the next time you cry about poor Israel defending its strong self against the rocks thrown by Palestinian children.

No, you flaming hypocrite. You CANNOT have it both ways.
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YankeeCanuck
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01:04 PM on 01/03/2012
You bark because you know you cannot refute these analyses. You've not made one cogent argument.
01:21 PM on 01/02/2012
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal. -Aristotle

Wise words from a man much wiser than me or anyone else on these boards; for those who think its OK to justify the oppression of millions of people, steal their land, use their children for target practice, bulldoze their homes, destroy their thousand (yes, THOUSAND) year old olive groves because of a few rockets fired in self-defence anyway. Get off their land and I guarantee the rocket fire will stop. Its THAT simple.
05:30 PM on 01/02/2012
You are the type of person who is very dangerous as nothing is ever that SIMPLE.
06:04 AM on 01/03/2012
Actually, it is EXACTLY that simple. It is a common strategy for Israeli apologists to overcomplicate the conflict. Its simple:

1. Refugees - right of return
2. Green Line 1976 borders - Israel must return to it.
3. Stop settlements
4. Compensation for those who cannot/will not/do not want to return.

Simple.

Why you and people like you seek to overcomplicate a simple matter is because you do not WANT Israel to give back the land they stole beyond the Green Line and would sooner see a dead Palestinian than any Palestinian. (You can go into a denialist rant here). You're not fooling me, only yourself.

But like all peoples who have resisted an oppressor (Im a South African who grew up during Apartheid - a non-white SAn btw) let me give you some advice... Palestinians will fight until the last man standing. They have nothing left to lose.
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07:53 PM on 01/02/2012
That is an almost perfect misinterpretation of Aristotle. It is precisely the opposite of what he intends, which is a critique of egalitarianism. (I don't happen to agree with him here.)
06:15 AM on 01/03/2012
and?
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tallen
panem et circenses
10:43 AM on 01/02/2012
Excellent article.
I personally was astounded at the level of hatred at HP, a liberal web site, towards the only truly liberal democracy in the middle east.
No lie about Israel seems to be to big, no allegation made without evidence that isn't accepted by too many as true.
More disturbing was the acceptance by too many at HP that any violence ( including mass terror murder) directed at Israel is deserved.
Your series lays bare the lies and the hypocrisy.
01:22 PM on 01/02/2012
You neither understand the concepts 'hate' nor 'liberal'.
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nycpaladin
Have truth will travel
01:36 PM on 01/02/2012
Clearly, you could school nobody in either one.
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
01:52 AM on 01/03/2012
gemma08 - we understand your envy, hatred and backward thinking very well, suit yourself....
10:35 PM on 01/01/2012
I do not know whether Israel is committing genocide but I hasten to think the scopes of Israel's crimes makes the effort worthless. Israel is colonizing the Palestinian's land, and infringing on the people's collective political and economic rights. This alone is enough to condemn.
09:25 AM on 01/02/2012
Read your history
12:19 PM on 01/02/2012
My "history" happened hundreds of years ago. It's no excuse to allow the same to happen today. Your argument is invalid.
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12:55 PM on 01/02/2012
Or a couple of newspapers and a magazine. There are three issues:

- Ending the occupation and colonization of Palestinian land.

Search news.google.com on "settlements". There are more Israelis living in the West Bank now than there were one year ago.

- Recognizing the fundamental rights of the Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality.

The Israeli government shows every intention of strengthening its anti-Palestinians laws. Look for any news article on anti-Democracy in Israel, but stick to the JPost if you're scared of liberals.

- Respecting, protecting the right of return.

Simple issue and a good discussion here: http://harpers.org/archive/2011/12/0083721
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
01:58 AM on 01/03/2012
theworldblows -- get yurself a nice cup of Java and wake up to read the correct history books, not palestinians revisions and revisonists like finkelstein and pappe......
06:08 AM on 01/03/2012
I challenge you and/or anyone else to refute Finkelstein. None of his detractors have been able to do it. Nice challenge for you.

*not holding my breath*

lol :)
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10:21 PM on 01/01/2012
I'd like to propose a thought experiment: let's call is "Finkelstein's Dilemma." Imagine that a powerful genie offered Norman Finkelstein a choice between two scenarios:

a) The Palestinian people could be utterly exterminated, thereby proving his thesis, and rendering him the greatest overlooked historian of his age.

b) Peace could be established between Israelis and Palestinians, with two perfectly harmonious states, but only under this condition: Finkelstein's lie about genocide would be known, worldwide, for the deliberate distortion that it was. It would be taught that way in the classrooms, forever.

Which do you imagine he would choose?
10:39 PM on 01/01/2012
A worthless thought experiment. Who is Finkelstein and and why does his dilemma matter?
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11:01 PM on 01/01/2012
Finkelstein has many Palestinian friends so experiment with yourself. "Which would Cooper choose..." etc.

Can you please, finally, quote Finkelstein himself (rather than yourself) on the subject of genocide and tell us what you don't like about his use?
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06:46 PM on 01/02/2012
I do quote him. And I do tell you. But you'd have to read the piece.

It's easy to find, I think. Scroll up. (I guess I could cut and paste it here.)
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
02:00 AM on 01/03/2012
G BT --Frinkelstein has many palestinian friend while his ancestors are turning over in their graves from shame and disgust.....
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09:35 PM on 01/01/2012
(This comment was lost.) Yes, al-Naqba, the "Disaster,­" was caused directly by tactics now embraced by Finkelstei­n: the deliberate inflation of atrocities­.

Deir Yassin was vile, and unforgivab­le: Jewish terrorists butchered about 120 peaceful villagers­. Pregnant women, however, were not raped; their bellies were not slit open. We have Palestinia­n testimony, on video, to the *fact* (not the opinion) that the atrocity was deliberate­ly embellishe­d in order to inspire resistance­. Hazem Nusseibeh was the editor at the Palestine Broadcasti­ng Service who put out the exaggerate­d report:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=GkhSHiwza­IY

"I asked Dr. Khalidi (Hussein Khalidi, a Palestinia­n leader) how we should cover the story. He said, 'We must make the most of this.' So he wrote a press release stating that at Deir Yassin children were murdered, pregnant women were raped: all sorts of atrocities­."

Abu Mahmoud, an eyewitness from Deir Yassin, reports that villagers objected: "We said, 'There was no rape.' He said, 'We have to say this, so the Arab armies will come to liberate Palestine from the Jews.'"

Deir Yassin was worse than a sin. It disgraced our people. The magnificat­ion of that atrocity, however, was a catastroph­e: it became THE Catastroph­e. Nusseibeh admits as much: "This was our biggest mistake. We did not realize how our people would react. As soon as they heard that women had been raped at Deir Yassin, Palestinia­ns fled in terror. They ran away from all our villages."
10:47 PM on 01/01/2012
This is a red herring. These are what matter:

1) Palestinian land is what Israel resides in.

2) The land has been colonized for more than 50 year, and the Palestinians driven to desperation.

3) This atrocity must come to an end. People have a right to self-determination, democracy must come later.
05:58 AM on 01/02/2012
Lots of red herrings :). I feel like Im swimming in a sea of them.
04:46 AM on 01/03/2012
All your points are in the "opinion" range" The point of the article is stop exaggerating facts.
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YankeeCanuck
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11:09 PM on 01/01/2012
So, they murdered a bunch of people but did not rape them.A year after the Nakba began in 1947.
And that is supposed to prove there was no atrocity.
The complete blockade of Gaza is an atrocity--drone strikes and bombardment are an atrocity. Automated weapons at the border are an atrocity.
What is the occupation of the West Bank, with 55% of Palestinian population living on 17% of the land under Palestinian control? A reservation, bantustan. And the rest of the land and its population controlled by the Israeli military. Walls, checkpoints, private Israeli-only roads,no freedom of movement, agricultural land encroached upon and restricted, water limited.
All of this done with overwhelming military and economic might. It is wrong when the US does -this, wrong when Israel does this--and by "this" I mean the impact on a civilian population.

Back away from the edge--you are too close.
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
02:53 AM on 01/02/2012
yankeeC - and what do you call the thousands Suicide bombing, and ten thousands of rockets launched at Israel civilians for the last 40 years....
A welcome firework celebration?
06:34 PM on 01/01/2012
Sorry if i was a member of several million people surrounded by many times that number of people who say that the only way to handle the jews is to exterminate them I would be ignoring all the bleeding hearts who are arguing for my death while they sit in their comfortable home and shout platitudes. It is easy to be liberal and theoretical when there is absolutely no chance of a hint of a cost to yourself. Isreal has no one including Canada and the US that would guarantee their survival. They know they are alone and can only depend on themselves. Most of the countries around Isreal have been very good at keeping this powder keg going by not allowing the palistinians to integrate into their populations and are only interested in using the palestinians as weapons against Isreal. Most of these palestinians cannot go back to Palestine as there is no room for them there.
10:42 PM on 01/01/2012
Other Arab countries have an obligation to provide for own people, not the Palestinians. On the other hand Israel has an obligation to return the land it has stolen back to the people to which it owes. There cannot be room in Palestine for Israelis but not for Palestinians. That does not make sense. It is like saying there is room in America for Mexicans but not Americans.
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nycpaladin
Have truth will travel
01:39 PM on 01/02/2012
Israel is the ONLY country in the Middle East that has ever returned land won in war by it's own volition. And in the case of Gaza, much to its regret.
05:27 PM on 01/02/2012
Whatever happened to humanity and allowing the displaced another place to live which is why many have moved to North America and Europe.
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
02:11 AM on 01/02/2012
nick46 -- Well said, F&F
05:00 PM on 01/01/2012
It is simply absurd to try to claim that Israel is guilty of genocide.
During Israel's occupation of Gaza, just 38 years from 1967 to 2005, the Muslim population there almost quadrupled, and life-expectancy increased by over 20 years.
See http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000636#graph5
Gaza population in 1970: 368,000, Gaza population in 2005: 1,376,289

See also http://www.arabamericannews.com/news/index.php?mod=comment&article=2547
"Let's take responsability and teach our kids the reality:
The population of the West Bank in 1970 (prior to the re-establishment of any Jewish population in that area, outside of Jerusalem) was 677,000 Arabs--and no Jews (except for a few hundred of the ancient Samartian cult living near Nablus). By 2003, the Arab population was 2,300,000 and the Jewish population was 219,000. Yes, that's right. The Arab population more than TRIPLED over that time. In Gaza there were 368,000 Arabs in 1970; by 2003 there were 1,337, 000. Yes, that's not a typo. Under the supposedly genocidal and tyrannical rule of Israeli occupation, the population of Gaza went up FOURFOLD."

These rates of population growth are far greater than for the population of Israel !!
Between 1970 and 2005, Israel's population increased by 133%,
but the population of Gaza, under Israeli occupation, grew by 274% - more than twice as fast.
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11:22 PM on 01/01/2012
Are you accounting for the millions of Israelis who got fed up and left?
10:31 AM on 01/02/2012
The Arab Muslim population explosion whilst under Israeli control is a fact, and
the number of Jews that moved to or from Israel has no bearing on this whatsover.

Did you actually read my post including the comments in the Arab American?
See http://www­.arabameri­cannews.co­m/news/ind­ex.php?mod­=comment&a­rticle=254­7
"The population of the West Bank in 1970 (prior to the re-establi­shment of any Jewish population in that area, outside of Jerusalem) was 677,000 Arabs--and no Jews (except for a few hundred of the ancient Samartian cult living near Nablus). By 2003, the Arab population was 2,300,000 and the Jewish population was 219,000. Yes, that's right. The Arab population more than TRIPLED over that time. In Gaza there were 368,000 Arabs in 1970; by 2003 there were 1,337, 000. Yes, that's not a typo. Under the supposedly genocidal and tyrannical rule of Israeli occupation­, the population of Gaza went up FOURFOLD."
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nycpaladin
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02:59 PM on 01/02/2012
:the millions of Israelis who got fed up and left":

LOL!! There are only about seven million Israelis, total! Given that the largest number of Israelis living outside of Israel are in New York--and don't even total 40,000. And given the fact that the majority of Israelis return to Israel frequently, not only is your math way off base, but so is the truthfulness of your claim. Busted!