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HBO's "Girls" -- Is it Really Less Humiliating Now Than it Was in the '50s?

Posted: 04/30/2012 3:34 pm

The current meme about the popularity of 50 Shades of Grey is that women have so much control in our real lives that we can afford to (because of the triumph of feminism ) or have to (because all that equality is an exhausting burden) resort to masochism in our fantasy lives. Women today play at bondage and other fantasies of powerlessness because we have so much power.

Oh, really?

"I felt like I was on this multiyear, never-ending audition to be his wife," one woman was quoted as saying in the New York Times article titled "The Downside of Cohabiting Before Marriage," after living with her boyfriend for four years.

"I don't think I can bear doing this for that long!" a 22-year-old women was quoted as saying in an Atlantic article after being confronted with the possibility that she'll still be single in her late thirties. She and her friends have liberated sex lives and "technical know-how" about sexual positions, but not many of them have ever had boyfriends.

The publicity material for Girls, the HBO series that claims to be "a pop culture mirror" reflecting the real lives of 20-somethings in New York, describes a male character: "Adam is the guy Hannah sleeps with sometimes -- when he decides to answer her texts. . . There may be more to him than meets the eye, but it's going to take Hannah some time to figure it out. Meanwhile, she will continue to show up on his doorstep dressed as a sex witch."

You read these things, and you want to scream, "Who told women they have to live like this?"

Surely the most benighted pre-liberation '50-style womanhood -- rushing to meet your husband at the front door, putting the martini in his hand, and sitting down in your freshly applied lipstick to listen to the all-important events of his day at the office -- couldn't be any more humiliating than the conditions that liberated modern women routinely tolerate today.

We've banished submission, obedience, and rules from our relationships. Nobody promises to obey their husbands any more. But now girls explain online how it turns them on when their boyfriends hit them in the face.

"Naturam expellas furca, tamen usque recurret," Horace pointed out, a couple of millenia ago. "You can drive out nature with a pitchfork, but it just keeps coming back" (as I'm able to translate thanks to a girl's education -- equal to any boy's -- that I'm very grateful to have received in the 20th century).

Domination and submission, power and rules, it appears, are inevitable features of the sexual landscape. I'm guessing 99 per cent of people "get" why sex shops sell handcuffs for every one who really sees the point of a foot fetish. Both men and women crave a love powerful enough to stir us up.

A whole host of modern developments -- the Pill, legal abortion, no-fault divorce, women's success in the workplace, shame-eradicating sex education (which replaced the older shame-bolstering kind) --have brought us to a place where love and sex are less obviously and necessarily life-changing than ever before.

Women today think we can keep relationships safely compartmentalized -- that we can have a manageable "sex life" on the side, while we build a real life out of the things we can control. But somehow we end up humiliating ourselves more than ever in pursuit of love. And apparently a lot of us still have a secret hankering for a yet more thoroughgoing degree of submission.

So what are our choices?

Keep going down the road of a liberation that's not all that liberating? Only play at satisfying our secret desires?

Because surely we don't want to go back to fifties -- or Victorian-style repression and oppression, do we?

Fortunately, there's a third alternative.

Consider a pre-Victorian love story with a healthy measure of domination and submission in it. In Pride and Prejudice, Mr. Darcy rejoices in being "properly humbled" by Elizabeth. To our ears, Darcy's language about letting Elizabeth "see that your reproofs had been attended to" has a cheap sexual charge. But in Jane Austen's world, submission and domination aren't just toys to play with. Rules and obedience were actually taken seriously in the author's day. It wasn't simply a question of "Wives, obey your husbands," though.

Notice that both lovers are eager to humble themselves before the other, and both ultimately exult in a kind of conquest. "For herself, [Elizabeth] was humbled; but she was proud of him. Proud that in a cause of compassion and honour he had been able to get the better of himself."

That's the excitement in Darcy and Elizabeth's story -- painful humiliation and hard-won mastery of self, which blossoms into triumphant love. Darcy's first, failed proposal to Elizabeth is an inferior sort of self-abasement; he's giving way to a passion that he's still half-ashamed of.

It's only when his pride is really humbled, when Elizabeth shows him "how insufficient were all [his] pretensions to please a woman worthy of being pleased," that he truly abases himself before her -- and so conquers her. And Elizabeth's utter humiliation when she sees her own prejudice is a similar stepping-stone on the way to all-conquering love.

Jane Austen's kind of domination and submission is about men and women's whole personalities, not just their sexual hobbies. If we're not really satisfied with the kinds of humiliation modern love has to offer, why not try love Austen's way?

 

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jf12
When I saw her I marveled greatly.
10:46 AM on 05/03/2012
No matter how much a man stoops he never conquers that way. But the slight bit of stooping by any woman suffices for most men.
10:38 AM on 05/03/2012
How about not using fictional characters to judge or comment on today's women? Instead of Mr. Darcy and Hannah, let's look at Austen and Dunham. Austen spent her adult life depending on her family particularly her brothers for support. Her books reflected how women of her time were dependent on men for financial support and status, yet she remained single and worked in a predominantly male dominated profession. Austen often had to fight with publishers for payment for her work. Also, she was quoted as saying something to the effect, that there is no such real person like Mr. Darcy he's a work of fiction.

While Hannah is a goof-ball filled with insecurities that does not quite crasp the responbilities of adulthood, Dunham is not. I would rather hear about her (or a character similar to her) than Hannah (although the dancing at the end of episode 3 was cute). Ms. Dunham is 26 years old, producing, writing, directing, and starring in her own TV show. She is obviously no Hannah. Whether or not you like the show you should be impressed with Dunham. Tina Fey is doing the same thing, but she's in her forties not twenties. I would imagine Ms. Dunham's life is much more interesting than Hannah's and worth an article.
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09:02 AM on 05/03/2012
"Instead of depending upon beauty, upon sex-appeal, the young girl who is "the success of to-day" depends chiefly upon her actual character and disposition"

"...it is the girl who does things well who finds life full of interests and of friends and of happiness."

Book of Etiquette 1922.

Good advice still today.
08:38 AM on 05/03/2012
"Girls" is the vision of exactly one person, Ms. Dunham. Is it an accurate "pop culture mirror?" Let's hope not.
08:07 AM on 05/03/2012
Just because there are some people that have sex with people they barely know, or people who treat them badly, doesn't mean it's a good idea or that everybody should do it. You always have a choice in how you behave, and how you behave signals to others how they should treat you.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
06:32 AM on 05/03/2012
I really don't understand what she is actually complaining about...

What do modern women need liberation from?

Men who don't immediately do what these women want?
07:14 AM on 05/03/2012
I don't understand how or why you troll the women's section day after day and never seem to actually READ any of the articles.
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lenguss
02:13 AM on 05/03/2012
Some women spend their lives looking for 'humiliation' and of course, they are always being 'humiliated'. These women have forgotten, if they ever knew, gentility, manners, adult behavior and the calm courage to deal with the vicissitudes of life. Instead they howl about the unfairness of it all. She should be thankful she lives where she does; she could have been born in Afghanistan, Pakistan or any of dozens of Asian or African or South American countries where she would learn what humiliation really is.
01:53 AM on 05/03/2012
Ok, look, I realize that we still have a lot of work to do for female equality but to claim that we're no better off than in the 1950s is absurd. I've never watched "Girls" but I don't know any woman whose experience with relationships matches that description. Not to mention that this entire column makes the men in the relationships look bad, when most of the men of my generation (at least the ones I know) have FAR more respect for women than those my grandfather's age. We've come a long way.
01:30 AM on 05/03/2012
I met my husband in high school, and we got married right after graduate school. We have seen each other torn down and rebuilt. He is my best friend, through sickness and health, a special needs child and more. We know each other inside and out, and are still incredibly in love. He is one of the greatest blessings I could imagine. I'm insanely lucky to have my Darcy. But I respect myself, make him communicate and we work everyday on our issues. I admit when I'm wrong and so does he. We're not perfect, and that's ok. I couldn't stand Sex and the City, and I can't stand Girls, because women turn themselves inside out without knowing themselves, expect the world from men without bothering to get to know them as people (or caring who they are). Real love takes work (and a fair amount of luck) and very few TV shows every get that right. Girls is controversal, and will live on because of that. I just hope real women don't treat it as some kind of guidebook.
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Jack Davies
THEY OWN BOTH SIDES!
12:58 AM on 05/03/2012
BWaaaah! Noooo! lol! You took a beautiful, nay EPIC dissection of modern feminism and woman and society and all that, and turned it into a commercial for Jane Austen?? Noes!
09:29 AM on 05/03/2012
So it would be better if I wrote the eleven millionth analysis of what's wrong with modern mating patterns and relations between the sexes, without offering any solution or alternative?
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Jack Davies
THEY OWN BOTH SIDES!
01:44 PM on 05/03/2012
Naw, lol. it was actually pretty well done. Just the Hemingway fan in me lashing out methinks lol.....
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dijit44
12:19 AM on 05/03/2012
Jane Austen's written world was, as far as she was personally aware, pure fantasy.
Translating such as Austen, Shakespeare and Keats and such into templates for modern romantic or sexual life is idiocy.
09:34 AM on 05/03/2012
Au contraire, Pride and Prejudice was a "pop culture mirror" of its own age--in other words, fiction that was realistic enough to be believable at the time, expressing an ideal that seemed within reach--just as today "Girls" apparently seems both real and attractive* to a lot of women.

*In a wouldn't-it-be-fabulous-to-have-their-awful-but-oh-so-cool-lives kind of way.
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dijit44
01:39 PM on 05/03/2012
As wonderful a writer as Austen was, her portrayal of romance was entirely dream-based and as realistic as the Avengers.
Much the way modern sports journalism induces millions of kids to spend their lives focused only on the 100s of big money jobs available in opposition to preparing for positive futures, Austen's work, and most modern television depictions lead people towards unrealistic expectations and almost certain disappointment.
The Avengers comics and now movie are worth taking in as entertainment, but hardly guides to adulthood. In her time, Austen's background schemes were reasonably realistic, the plot lines pure fantasy.
How any of what she wrote, no matter how well she wrote it, differs from BattleStar Galactica in its real world import is beyond me.
12:00 AM on 05/03/2012
Well written piece, I am happy to see maturity and wisdom return to the conversation instead of the shallow self centered self indulgence we've been obsessing over for decades.
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Baneblade
Subversive Individual
04:35 PM on 05/02/2012
Eileen Jones hit the nail on the head when she dismissed "Girls" as "mumblecore" hipster garbage.
12:00 PM on 05/03/2012
Thank you. I agree.
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Leanne McKenzie
You can't make this sh*t up.
03:22 PM on 05/01/2012
When I was young and single, we could do as we pleased.

Men were thrilled not to have to have a non-monogamous relationship. However, that lasted only as long as they found out that meant that the women were free to have other relationships. Somehow finding out that she had someone else, that was usually a deal breaker.

It caused no end of confusion for men who knew they were being unreasonable and that of course the woman was a free as they were in this relationship, but dealing with it was something else.

Then there was also the challenge. So - you like the relationship just like this? You aren't looking for anything more? Why not? What's wrong with me? I think we should take this to the next level.

It never works. Someone always gets attached or tries to make the attachment.
12:03 AM on 05/03/2012
Getting attached and making attachments is the whole point. The other thing is what's kinda dumb. We are pair bonding animals meant to rear our offspring together. Love serves a purpose and is the glue holding families together. When we try to hop around between partners everyone is left feeling unsatisfied. Monogamy is not perfect and we may also have a natural impulse to sleep with others but that's where discipline and self control suppose to take over to serve the greater good. Just because we have faults does not mean we need to submit to them and make them the rule.
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neight
04:07 AM on 05/03/2012
Actually the high mortality rates of primitive humans makes it much more likely that for most of human history offspring were raised by the whole tribe or clan and specific parentage was thus detrimental if anything. Monogamy was not only not necessary, it was actually reproductively disadvantageous. If no one knows whose child is whose, they can't leave it out in the jungle when it's parent dies and it's just another mouth to feed. Also, witness the open sexual practices such as at holiday festivals that were common as recently as pre-Christian Europe.
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Leanne McKenzie
You can't make this sh*t up.
08:45 AM on 05/03/2012
I agree it is the whole point, however it doesn't have to happen right away and a person can choose their way to that point.

However, the media always present women as the ones needing and making attachments that aren't really there, or selling themselves short so they can "catch" a guy.

It works both ways and women do not have to humiliate themselves to have a man in their life. They can be happy, sexually fulfilled and content without. Or while waiting to meet someone worth their while.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
06:33 AM on 05/03/2012
Most men are severely disinterested in competition and comparative shopping.
02:57 PM on 05/01/2012
I agree that, in many cases, the modern "liberated" woman has found new and disturbing ways to remain submissive to domineering male partners whom they allow to humiliate and degrade them. It's no secret that self-esteem issues among young 20-something women are rampant, and they often manifest themselves in unhealthy relationships.

Yet, I still believe that we are a very long way from the 1950's. Yes, I want to yell at Hannah to tell Adam where he can go. I have met women like that in real life too. But I also have friends who are in fantastic, supportive, and yes, equal relationships with their partners. And these relationships are not seen by anyone outside any social norms, as they might have in the '50's. And get this...some of these women who may be in their late 20s or 30s now were once those insecure 22 year olds who dated the wrong guy. 50 years ago they might have married that guy at 22 and risked social ostracism if they later decided to divorce him. Today they can look back and see how far they've come.

In other words, I think there have always been Elizabeths and Darcys out there. Social pressures will always exist that some will be more susceptible to than others. Some people have the strength of character to withstand those pressures (Elizabeth/Darcy), and with others, it remains to be seen (Hannah).