The public response to recent labour disputes has been a disturbing sideshow to the return of Parliament. What's remarkable is the level of nastiness that gets tossed around, littered with references to "union stooges" and the ubiquitous "socialist dinosaurs."
Perhaps the most obvious line of attack is based on a backdrop of selfishness -- "I don't have benefits/vacation/job security, so why should they?"
It is an argument borne of misplaced resentment. The understandable anger at an increasingly stratified society is being directed not at the handful of people who are benefiting handsomely from an increasingly unfair and unequal economy, but rather at those individuals and organizations trying to make that same economic system a little less unfair for themselves and eventually for others.
As a strategy, though, it's completely backwards: rather than resenting unionized workers for what they have achieved, doesn't it make more sense to say, "What great benefits -- I would like to have them too" (or maybe, "I would like my kids to have those opportunities, even if I don't")? Isn't that how we improve living and working conditions for all of us?
I don't understand the apparently pervasive rationale that unless everyone (or at least the person doing the complaining) has these rights, no one should. How does that guarantee any kind of social progress? Do we reject social improvements out of sympathy for those who didn't benefit from them? Or do we initiate social progress by creating examples of good policy and practice to which we all collectively work to aspire? Like, for example, paid maternity leave -- which many of us now have as a direct result of the postal workers' fight for that benefit in the 80s.
If the founders of Medicare thought that establishing public health care would be unfair to those who grew up without it, where would we be today?
But there's also another theme that's been percolating on message boards (following news stories about what has become a full-fledged lockout of postal workers by Canada Post, and the recent tabling of back-to-work legislation by the federal government) -- one deeply rooted in elitism and adherence to a rigid class system.
"What makes them think they deserve more?"
"You only need a grade 6 education to do their job."
"Why should unskilled labour get paid $50,000 a year?"
Funny, isn't it, how people claim to respect those who do "an honest day's work." Yet when that "honest day's work" comes with decent wages, benefits, vacation days, a pension and job security -- you know, if it's unionized -- suddenly those same hardworking folks are "coddled," their work somehow not so "honest" anymore.
Workers are universally loved (or at least they get some rhetorical "props") when they're downtrodden... but the moment they have the gall to look beyond their "place," they're met with a wave of righteous indignation: who do they think they are, anyway?
"They think they work harder than you and me," someone responded on facebook when I voiced my support for postal workers. "Well, maybe they do," I said. I'm certainly not out there every day carrying upwards of 35 lbs of mail for hours at a time, trudging through Ottawa streets in minus-40 winters and plus-40 summers, and dealing with the realities of a job that has the second-highest rate of work-related injuries in the federal sector.
The implication is that some jobs (and the people who do them) just aren't deserving of a good wage, security, or safe working conditions. Times are tight (for working people, though not for CEOs), they have a job, and that should be enough for them. Living wages are for slackers, and unions have to get with the times.
Really? So this is the new definition of progress: household debt is at record levels and working people (particularly the younger ones who are just entering the job market) are told they have to do more and expect less while paying off student loans, raising families, and caring for aging parents.
Ironically, in resisting this so-called "new reality" for their current and future members (and more broadly, for society) unions are painted as obstructionist and out of touch. But it's our increasingly stratified system -- the one so many people, against even their own best interests, tie themselves into knots defending -- that's truly untenable.
Erika Shaker is Director of the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives' Education Project.
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And this is just how they behave among their own, outside their circle they don't give a rats a.s.s about anybody else, they don't got out and help organize unions at Walmatr for example or boycott shopping at places that pay low wages to their staff.
I get tired of hearing this sort of drivel, and I have a large number of union people in my extended family, they are generaly the least atrusitic and most self-centered people in the family.
Maybe it's not the unions.
Maybe it's just genetic.
If workers get their salary slashed, where does the excess money go? Into the few pockets of shareholders and executives. While I can tell you what the workers did to EARN money, what the heck did a shareholder do to earn an increase of pay at the expense of said worker? Go online to eTrade and buy up some shares?
Who is more deserving of a slice of company revenue? The guy doing the work, or the guy in the suit sitting at a cafe issuing a buy order?
In your weird world, you'd rather have the workers pay cut - because after all he's just a "worker" and why does a lowly worker deserve any money above the bare minimum required by law?
Instead of dragging everyone down to your level, maybe you need to start trying to get a little more.
Also, Facebook message threads are not a legitimate source of research. Canadians are not resentful towards unions. They are not complaining because of what they lack, it is not out of jealous or envy. What they are frustrated and confused about is why the majority of Canadians are so profoundly grateful for everything they have, while people who have so much more are behaving in the most cowardly and heinous of fashions for even more. It is not how much they make, or the benefits they receive that irritates us, but rather how incredibly ungrateful they genuinely seem. I do not want their jobs. I happy where I am, making what I make (which is significantly less), without benefits, because, despite how hard I work, despite whatever skill and talent and degrees I possess, I don't really believe I have earned the right to these things. Not yet. I'm far too young to believe I'm entitled to such things.
The Rub and Tug Jack was busted at was being raided because of links to underage sex slaves
The Left think people have a "right" to "free" medical care, food, schooling, retirement funding, disability assistance, housing subsidies, etc. – all to be paid for by the forced expropriation of other people.
In other words, they believe that some people have a "right" to violate the rights of others.
Right Jack, lead by example
Get a grip.
I'd rather live in a country where we educate people and take care of them. Where seniors don't live in poverty - or on the streets - because they never got a job that gave them a pension. I'd rather have our poor housed and clothed and fed then living on the streets.
If you disagree, go visit a 3rd world country where the poor receive nothing - and ask yourself if you'd rather our country look like that.
Heck, go drive through New Mexico, you will see poor people that never got educated, never received assistance for a crippling disability, or had access to a housing subsidy, and see how they live. In tin shacks along the side of the highway.
Ask yourself if a man and his family should live like that so you can have an extra $1000 dollars a year to spend on a third flatscreen TV for your house...
The Postal Workers Union was the first to fight for and get paid maternity leave -something we all take for granted now. Most of the benefits we still have were fought for by unions. Back when there were strong unions in North America we all benefitted everybody as employers paid good wages and benefits so their employees would not be tempted to unionize. You know, back when there was an actual middle class.
Off-shoring of jobs only became the norm because none of our governments stopped sticking up for the working middle class when they didn't have unions to worry about any more. The common myth is that unions killed manufacturing in North America but in fact it was the union-busters in business and their buddies in government who really did it.
As much as I love being friends with this couple, I am discouraged at how my country and it's citizens are evolving. Since when did we did we only look out for our selves and care about no other?
My Dad, was a union man his entire life and was a union shop stewart, and while I have never been in a union, I respect what my Dad went through to make sure employees and their families were looked after and not ill treated by management. I know what he would say if he were alive today - this is not the country I fought for in WWII. That country realized that it had to take care of those that are unable to, whether at home or abroad.
And I don't think Harper is to blame...I think people have become greedy and selfish.
Get sick for a day? You're fired. You're getting old... we'll hire someone younger. You're fired. Ask for a raise? Forget that! You're fired. Perform to well and threaten me, your boss? You're fired. Get pregnant? Screw that! You're fired.
People don't realize how much the union and the labor laws in this country are needed. Whatever your neighbour does, if he earns a good wage, I guarantee you, if it wasn't for labour laws, he would be fired (unless he's his own boss) and a younger, smarter, faster kid out of College or University would replace him.
She is talking about Corporations doing this and that when it's the Government Unions that are the problem.
Quit confusing already confused Canadians.
You shouldn't have to write a thousand words to justify a Union presence.
In a sense, it is "elitism" between the same class.
Rather than forcing a slide back to a time of slavery and child labour brought about by the seething resentment of those who have no powerful ally to advocate on their behalf, efforts would best be served in demanding better working conditions for ALL workers.
After all, there are billions upon billions of quarterly profits to be "trickled down," aren't there?
People really work for stuff, not money, the money is used to purchase stuff.
You get stuff based on what value you can provide, unless you work for the Govt. The Govt can provide a hamburger for $100, and you have to pay that price.
I have a $500,000,000,000 bill from Zabaewae, it wont buy much stuff, unless people are productive you wont have any stuff, and Govt is not productive.
In fact, I have a letter right now that need to be delivered so I can go about my business. And I'd much rather pay less than a dollar for that service than the alternative ten bucks I'd have to shell out otherwise for a private company (especially knowing the grunts would get minimum wage while the CEO would rake in millions - that just doesn't sit well with me).
Understand that government is supposed to work for YOU. Not the other way around. Not for business, either. And, yes, corruption and waste eventually occurs, guaranteed - that's the cycle of life.
Then it's up to us, the people to every once in the while take out the rugs and beat them, so to speak, to get rid of the crap. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, that's OUR duty to government.
We're getting to the rug beating stage.
Ain't life grand?
You either have government controlling the show or the people.
I'm with the people.
Put Canada beside any other country in Europe and you have nowhere near the prosperity you do know.
Montezaro
Since wages and salaries are based on the market, means you have to fight for your "fair share". Politically the middle classes have gone to sleep and become complacent and are expecting some "invisible hand" to "lift all boats." Wrong answer. Fairy tale thinking.
If you can fight your way to the top and have a cushy job as a bank president or the postal union risking loss of income in fighting for more - that is what is fair and honest. Might has been and always will be right.
If you want a "fair wage" you have to fight for it and do what it takes to grab your share of the pie. That's how the wealthy do it.
Goes from people taking huge risks like Wright brothers, Ford, Gates, and a thousands others, including the Joe who opened a milk store on your block and sells you a newspaper or a lottery ticket.
They have all provided a service at no cost to you, unless you wanted to benefit.
The Govt gives, but it also takes, with no choice by you, nor anyone else.
The only reason the post office gets that much is it is a monopoly.
Finally someone who thinks! I am not a postal worker, don't work for the government, I am not a teacher and - I don't have benefits that all the working people should have. But, I don't agree with "Oh, God, let my neighbour cow die!) philosophy, just because I don't own one. Misery sometimes brings the worst from the people and is very sad listening to all those bad comments.
Well done,
Elvira