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Does the Burka Enable Crime?

Posted: 01/24/2012 8:01 am

The Muslim Canadian Congress (MCC), a grassroots organization of secular and liberal Muslims hosted an event in Toronto on Sunday to thank Minister Kenney for his courageous stand in banning the face veil from Canada's Citizenship ceremonies. The decision enjoys widespread support among Canadians across the country.

While most members of the audience were supportive of the Minister's decision, a few objections were also raised at the event with respect to the constitutionality of such a ban.
For example, Fatema Dada of the Canadian Muslim Lawyers Association invoked the religious freedoms argument in the following manner when she stated, "If somebody believes in it [the niqab] then it's their right to practice it." According to Dada, it should be up to individual Canadians to determine and express their own unique religiosity.

True, but does the argument stop here? Do some religious practices still warrant restrictions? And how does Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms come to bear on this issue?

The Charter includes the following freedoms:

(a) freedom of conscience and religion; (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and (d) freedom of association.

What constitutes a religious right under the Charter then? Is deviant religious practice a religious right according to the provisions of the Charter? Yes, most certainly. Fatema Dada is correct in pointing out this aspect of the Charter. The whole purpose of separating religion and state is to ensure that the state maintains a certain degree of neutrality towards diverse religious practices. It is therefore not up to the state to determine the authenticity of a particular religious practice. If some individuals believe Islam mandates the burka or face veil, then the state must not question that understanding.

This interpretation of Charter provisions would certainly confer legitimacy on the practice of wearing the burka, even though its proponents hold a minority opinion deemed fallacious by the Muslim majority.

The question however remains: Like other religious rights, is the right to wear a burka an absolute right, or can it be subjected to reasonable limits, and if so, what are those limits?

Some religious practices, however deviant, are benign, while others may be quite inimical to society. Furthermore, some religious rights impinge on the rights of other individuals or of society, in which case, is it justified to place limits on them? The burka or face coverings most certainly fall under this category as crime-enabling garbs.

The right to wear the burka is not an absolute right. The Minister, in mandating removal of the face veil in citizenship ceremonies has taken an important and admirable first step in regulating burka use in public.

 
 
 

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08:41 PM on 02/02/2012
There is nothing admirable about stepping on basic rights. There is nothing admirable about being a bully. Just because it is a small minority that chooses to wear niqab, it does not justify the trampling of these individuals rights. The worst thing is the attempt to cloak this prejudice with some fictional sense of morality. Pornography is a much greater social ill than covering up, yet it is defended by freedom of speech and expression. This is a very poorly argued article and there is no substantial evidence to back any of the authors claims.
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12:34 AM on 01/30/2012
Given that the number of niqab-wearing women in Canada is most likely in the hundreds, and the xenophobes who silently cheer a political affirmation of their discomfort couched in terms like 'public safety' and 'Canadian values' number in the millions, I, for one, see these types of stands for the disgusting cheap populism they really are. It used to be that courage described something that involved sacrifice and heroism, not some intellectual lightweight pontificating from a soapbox. For the record I disagree with the niqab on a religious level because I believe God does not want Muslims to make it mandatory. On a cultural level, who am I to tell anyone else what to do?
What's next? Surgical masks? Motorcycle helmets? Can I wear a football helmet with a blacked-out visor and a heavy duty cage while riding a streetcar, or is Jason Kenny gonna go all Frodo on me?
Farzana Hassan does not speak for all Muslims. If she really cares about reducing crime, how about banning something a little more linked to crime, like baseball bats and frying pans?
12:31 PM on 01/25/2012
Last week during a period snowy and extreme cold, my attire for the bus ride and walk to and from work looked something like: boots; long, loose, fury parka with a huge hood; toque pulled down past my brow; scarf pulled up past my nose. For 7 days, men and women alike were unrecognizable in the city...we haven't seen this kind of cold and wind in a while. Since January 1st, I have seen one woman dressed in a niqab. I don't have access to information telling me if terrorist crimes or robberies occurred this past month, but if there was, it was probably the girl in the niqab right?

Our Supreme Law protects the right to religious freedom, freedom of thought and association. Banning one particular garb from any public place would have to be solely based on non-religious, non-cultural, non-ethnic reasons. Ok, so security it is. Then we have to ban ski masks, scarves, toques (only on really cold days), face paint, masquerade masks, medicals masks, big stylish sunglasses... Let's stop pretending that banning the burqa isn't an ideological push.
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Farzana Hassan
08:55 AM on 01/25/2012
Thanks for the feedback, folks. Here's my point: Paramount in this debate is the issue of the safety and security of the public. The burka conceals identity. While other garments such as ski masks and balaklavas can also be used to conceal identity, their use is restricted to specific athletic activities conducted in areas that are specifically demarcated for such activity. Certainly, the use of any kind of face masks should be restricted in public. But the burka in particular, presents a unique problem. It is worn by a larger number of individuals at all times of the day in all sorts of public spaces. People don’t wear ski masks in public on a normal day. Conservative Muslim women, however, do wear the burka or niqab in public on a regular day, hence, the potential for the burka being abused by criminal elements is greatly amplified. The garb has been linked to bank robberies and terrorism. And since a terrorist attack can occur in a random manner, anywhere, any time, one must decide whether it is more important to protect an individual right to wear the burka in public, or whether it is more important to ensure the safety of the public by banning a garb that has great potential of being abused by criminals.
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11:59 AM on 01/25/2012
Ms. Hassan, your argument still doesn't make sense. As far as crime statistics go, I bet that there have been far more crimes committed by people wearing blue jeans, suits, and Nike running shoes, than burqas. Also, in Canada Muslim face coverings are NOT worn by a large number of individuals. Compared to the population of this country, the number of burqa wearing women are negligible, and I have never heard of them being a safety threat (other than speculations similar to yours). these people generally mind their own business and just go about their day, while others of more paranoid nature think up arguments about how the Muslim religious garb can be perceived as a security threat.
Also, most crimes are committed by people with their face uncovered, so I don't know why someone would even come up with stuff like this. For a paranoid person anybody can be a potential threat, regardless of what they wear. The burqa worn by a relatively small number of women in Canada is no more of a threat from my POV than anyone wearing a suit or jeans and running shoes.
I have a feeling that this isn't about the burqa as a security threat to Canadian society, it's more about the author's dislike of the burqa itself, and making a (for me rather senseless) argument against it, pulling the "security" card that may appeal to those prone to giving in to fear mongering.
07:53 AM on 01/25/2012
This article is incredibly poorly argued. The author just states that burkas are "crime-enabling garbs" seemingly out of nowhere and provides nothing to substantiate this claim, or even explain what she means. In fact, when one reads the article, the impression is that the lawyer mentioned in the article is correct - the burka is indeed protected by the Charter.
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12:18 AM on 01/25/2012
Does the Burka enable crime?
No more than a 'Guy Falkes mask' & despite the hundreds of peaceful protestors arrested in the streets of New York (many wearing them) the lot of them could not commit the same level;of crime as one Wall Street Banker.

Do absurd CEO bonuses enable crime?

You Betcha!
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08:27 PM on 01/24/2012
" Crime-enabling garbs"? Since when? You would think someone wearing a Burka would stand out.
06:40 PM on 01/24/2012
I too would like to know what exactly makes this author take her own poorly argued statement so seriously. are you relying simply on the emotional response of some to the Burka to make your argument for you Hassan?

Does the Burka enable crime?

From this article, I have absolutely no idea, but I am sure that Farzana Hassan enables a lower standard of debate.
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05:15 PM on 01/24/2012
The burqa/veil as a crime enabling garb? That is one of the most ridiculous statements I have come across in the veil debate. Why don't we ban hoodies? A lot of crime is being committed by people wearing those. How about long coats? You can hide a hunting gun under those. Skirts... same thing. Let's all go naked, that way nobody can hide anything... except in certain places, where a hunting gun doesn't fit. Hopefully...
10:59 PM on 01/24/2012
In the city of Halifax anyone with their head covered by a hoodie will be asked to remove the covering before getting on a public transit bus as well as entering certain retail outlets. They are the the garb of roberies and muggings in that city!
The same rule apparently applies to the burqa, a woman was refused passage for not removing her burqa.
05:06 PM on 01/24/2012
Can the author point to a single instance in which the niqab or burka has been used, in Canada, to facilitate a crime?
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10:46 PM on 01/24/2012
couple of bank robberies here in Ottawa last year by males wearing the whole outfit
04:58 PM on 01/24/2012
Obviously, OBVIOUSLY religious rights are not absolute in Canada. It doesn't matter how deeply held your religious belief is, you don't get to perform human sacrifice here; the criminal law against murder simply trumps religious freedom, and that's all there is to it.

How do religious rights differ from basic rights of autonomy that every individual enjoys? If I want to wear a veil, should my right to do so be greater if it's for a religious reason than if I just like veils?
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11:44 AM on 01/25/2012
Well, when we get to the point where we are restricting what people wear under the pretext of terrorism, then I think we have taken such a minor threat to the world far too seriously and have gotten to the point where we are freely giving away all the rights we fought centuries to attain out of fear for a nonexistent boogeyman. For me, that is insanity. IT seems the world will suffer the erosion of every single human right they have, as long as the focus is brown people. But nothing in history that has happened to brown people doesn't eventually happen to white. So watch out, and protect your rights now, or you will be thinking back 30 years from now about the Burka
06:05 PM on 01/25/2012
I took no position as to whether banning the burka was good or bad policy, but I suppose I should have.I agree with you: I don't approve of banning the burka or the veil.

My point was actually provoked by this sentence: "Like other religious rights, is the right to wear a burka an absolute right, or can it be subjected to reasonable limits, and if so, what are those limits?" I read this as carrying an implicit assumption that "religious" rights can be absolute or have some special weight beyond the simple secular right of individual autonomy, and I reject this assumption vigorously. The fact that someone's motive to do something is religious should give it no special status over someone else's desire to do the same thing for a secular reason. If the state can lawfully prohibit concealing one's face in public, then I don't think "religious freedom" should carve out an exemption to that law that non-religious people don't also enjoy.

The other side of this is that the state should not single out a practice and try to ban it based on its religious association. If it's lawful for people to do something for non-religious reasons (e.g. wearing a mask to a costume party) then it should be lawful to do for religious reasons. It's pretty clear that if it were some other religious group and not Muslims wearing the burka, this proposal would never have come up.
02:12 PM on 01/24/2012
A minister should be doing what he was elected to do Immigration minister Kennedy is obviously doing nothing to make sure back log immigration files are processed on time, make sure criminals will not be given save haven instead he is busy to single out: 000000.00001% of those who become citizen not to wear garment on their face not because security but to make sure they are taking the oath!!

Really taking the oath should be from the heart not show off and please let us stop saying Muslim Canadian Congress a grassroots organization of secular and liberal Muslims they are nothing but a self seeking individuals who got no support what so ever! They would talk about injustice and discrimination against muslims but what they really do is to create a conflict between Canadians.

Well that may make political sense but it is very bad for our country. And finally let me say it does not have to be religion it can be a choice of wearing what ever you like and if not appropriate on the occasion the people in charge can say you can not wear this thing on this occasion it is that simple not a ministers job to make so big as if this is the concern of every one.
11:49 PM on 01/24/2012
Perhaps minister Kennedy is doing a good job in regards to the immigration his department is screening- doing the job properly!
In the past 40 years I have heard many stories of people being given immigrant status only to become "Canadians for convenience sake" - they were issued a Canadian Passport.
In the last few days we have learned of one man who fought deportation to his native country to face charges of :inciting geonicide, and Im sure if one to look back there would be other instances of this.
It makes perfectically good sense to me that a judge in our citizenship courts be able to see just who is repeating the oath.
07:58 AM on 01/25/2012
You missed the point tell me how many will cover their face and how many will not want to repeat the oath? do you think if any is covering their face they are doing it in order not to say the oath?

Is this really a major problem to be number one job for the minister? and tell me why it is major story for the media?

I don't know about you but any one who have a shred of honesty will tell you this is not about immigration judge wanting to see if some one repeating an oath, but it is Canada's red-neck party to make a political statement! to create a conflict between Canadians. It is a normal for any Red-Neck party in the world Canada, USA, France and UK to hide behind other issues instead of doing the people's work!

When a democrat or in Canada liberal party is in power they work hard to build the nation make sure the economy is growing education and health is taken care of plus create sense of belonging every citizen feels proud but when Conservative in Canada or a Republican in the USA or Conservative in France or UK is in power, people regret they elected them because all they do is do nothing.

Talk about gays, immigration and religion that is it nothing more! So my hope is Canadians will learn their mistake and next election they will elect a Liberal Party, NDP that cares..
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02:03 PM on 01/24/2012
In Canadian society a person's face is their primary source of identification. Canada welcomes new arrivals. It is the reasonability of new arrivals to adapt to Canadian culture, not the other way around. If a person is unwilling to adapt to Canadian culture, don't come.
05:10 PM on 01/24/2012
In Canadian society, one is also not obligated to present identification except in certain well-defined instances (clearing Customs, testifying in court, etc.) When walking down the street, one has no obligation whatsoever to carry ID, let alone present it. It is more than sufficient to require that individuals wearing a face-covering bare their faces for identification purposes solely in those situations in which an individual may be legally compelled to identify himself or herself. In the other 99.99% of cases, no requirement for bare faces is necessary. (It's a good thing, too -- I wouldn't want to be told that I can't cover my face when walking down the street in a Toronto winter.)
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11:49 AM on 01/25/2012
If you feeel that everyone who immigrants to canada must give up their traditions and instantly become 'white', then first go and remove those parts of Canadian law that promise religious, racial, and ethnic equality, because you do not really believe in that. You just believe that brown people should be 'tolerated' provided they choose to behave like you(real human beings).

Its ridiculous and xenophobic.
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01:06 PM on 01/24/2012
Wearing a burka is not a normal practice, because there is no practical need for it, aside of acting as a device to maintain honor (read artificial penis extension) of the man. In Western cultures, wearing anything on your face without a clear practical reason for it is a sign of a mental illness or a hostile intent. So which one is it?
05:14 PM on 01/24/2012
In a free society, the question is not, "Is there a need for this practice?" Nor is it, "Is this a 'normal' or conventional practice?" We are free to do what we wish -- including behaving in unconventional ways -- unless the need to protect others from harm from our actions necessitates a ban on a specific action. The question is, "Is the harm to others associated with this so great that we can justify a ban?" The answer, here, is no.
06:43 PM on 01/24/2012
In Canada, it is illegal to wear a costume which hides the face (making you impossible to identify, in case it should be needed... (like if you commit a crime, or are a witness to a crime, for example).

The burqa and the niqab do just that, exactly like a mask. If they are allowed to wear a mask (burqa/niqab) because [insert reason that they find good enough here], then any canadian should also have the right to wear any mask they want for [insert reason that they would find good enough here]. Every canadians *should* be equal before the law.
11:17 PM on 01/24/2012
We can act in unconventional ways and a lot of us do, but we must do so within the laws of the country so they are applied equally to all.
In the city of Halifax someone wearing a hoodie with their head covered will be asked to remove the hood before entering the bus (public transit) or entering some retail outlets, that same law should should be applied to anyone covering their face.
In the province of Quebec some years ago a teenager in high school was found not guilty of having a dangerous weapon on his person. The weapon was a 6 inch dagger, supposedly worn as a religous symbol, I have often wondered what would be the penalty if someone outside that religion were charged with having the same weapon in their possession in a public place.
If we are to have laws that are applied equally and fairly to all then exemption on grounds of religious freedoms cannot and should not be considered.