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Soldiers Give Up Their Rights So They Can Risk Their Lives

Posted: 05/12/2012 1:21 am

Veterans often cite the irony that those who fight and defend freedom experience it the least.

Take the case of Cpl. Steve Stoesz.

Last week, Cpl. Stoesz spoke out about National Defence's planned cuts to military health care. DND plans to cut 25 jobs from a special unit that deals with post-traumatic stress disorder, and soldier suicide. The good corporal is justifiably worried about the impact those cuts will have. He fears his fellow soldiers will be left without the mental health support they need.

Someone raising concerns over job cuts has been a daily news item since the budget was announced. But this is a very different affair; Stoesz could go to jail for having voiced his opinion.

Canadian citizens may be shocked to learn that the Canadian Forces do not have the same Charter Rights as the rest of us. They give up those rights when they enlist.

In particular, they do not have freedom of opinion and expression. Both the National Defence Act (S. 129) and the Queen's Regulations and Orders (103.60)prohibit members from criticizing the Department of National Defence or the Government of Canada. It is considered Conduct to the Prejudice of Good Order and Discipline.

In most cases, such a law makes sense for the military. It is used to suppress mutiny and rebellion. As citizens, we don't want our troops even discussing such things. If a soldier does start to speak out against his commanders or against our government, we need to be able to take swift and decisive action against that person. One thing that is required of a soldier, above all else, is loyalty. Unquestioning loyalty. Absolute loyalty.

Which is why Stoesz is in trouble for criticizing his betters. He wasn't 100% loyal to the idea of soldiers killing themselves because the books need to be balanced, and he said so.

Now he's in even more trouble. After his first interview, Cpl. Steve Stoesz was ordered to keep his trap shut. Instead, the corporal went on national TV and told everyone; not just his opinion of the cuts, but also about the gag order. This means he is open to even more charges, including Disobeying a Lawful Command -- which, by the way, is punishable by up to life imprisonment.

Imagine that: you fight and are injured for your country, and you wind up in prison for the rest of your life because you said you didn't like the budget.

Now you and I both know that he's not likely to get that. That punishment is probably reserved for disobeying orders in combat. But nonetheless, Stoesz is in serious trouble: those are just two of many charges he could face.

Stoesz says he doesn't care, that this is too important an issue to be quiet about. He won't shut-up-and-soldier. He was willing to die in Afghanista,n and the war over veteran benefits is far more important.

Which, I think, gets right to the heart of the matter.

There is a subtext to national service. Those who serve agree to give up their rights because that is essential to doing the job. In exchange, they rely on every superior rank -- including citizens -- to see that they are treated fairly and justly, to ensure that they are cared for when they need it. They exchange rights for trust. When we betray that trust, we cannot demand to withhold rights as well.

As for the soldier, ask yourself this:

What is worse for military discipline? Steve Stoesz talking on the news? Or the Conservatives gutting mental health support to the troops?

 
 
 

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04:33 PM on 05/14/2012
The problem is that under Harper, they are risking their lives at the behest of foreign puppetmasters.
03:38 PM on 05/14/2012
What he needs to do is become a criminal then he will be completely protected by the Charter, not a protector of the people or the government. Let's face it if a government can get away with screwing someone/group over to make political gain and the other party can't even defend themselves against the governments stupidity you know thats exactly what they are going to do. RefooormCons strike again.
12:55 PM on 05/14/2012
There is an error of law in this column. It is not true that "the Canadian Forces do not have the same Charter Rights as the rest of us. They give up those rights when they enlist."

The Canadian Forces are subject to the same law as the rest of Canada, including the Charter. The rights of soldiers, like the rights of every other Canadian, are "subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society."

This includes a limitation on the right to comment on government policy. The limitation is contained in Queen's Regulations and Orders 19.36 and is intended to prevent the armed forces becoming a political entity as it has in places like China, Chile and (arguably) the United States.

Whether Cpl Stoesz has violated either an order or a standing order is a separate question.
12:00 PM on 05/13/2012
This is probably a pedantic quibble, but it bugs me every time I see it -- the traditional term in Canada is to "enrol" or "enrolment". "Enlist" is, of course, the American term, and its persistent use here yet another example of the creeping Americanization of our nation.
See, for instance: http://www.army.dnd.ca/land-terre/joining-enroler/ju-ev-eng.asp

I find it notably ironic that even the anti-US types are using the US terminology.
07:16 AM on 05/13/2012
I understand the rules and regulations under which this fine soldier is required to operate and admire his devotion to duty that compels him to speak out for those that may not be able to speak for themselves.

I hope that he is provided with the best possible representation in addressing the charges he's facing.

Who should be facing criminal charges are Stephen Harper, Peter MacKay, Jim Flaherty and company. They've never served a day in their lives, have no qualms placing Canadian forces in harm's way and then have the gall to refuse them support they may require for the rest of their lives. Fail, Fail, and Fail.

Our social contract with the military is that, upon request, they go do the dirty jobs all over the world, away from their families, for a pittance and we agree to take care of them when they come back no matter what. Cost is not a factor in this agreement.

Whether you agree with why we send our military where we send them or not is irrelevant. Once they go, we have to live up to the contract. It's the least we can do.
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12:06 AM on 05/13/2012
Personally I don't believe it should ever be legal to mandate that any citizen-- *certainly* not those citizens willing to devote their lives to the protection of the state-- be prohibited from speaking their mind about the state's leadership. Military servicemembers are, after all, more qualified than most other citizens to speak in the public sphere about the human cost of war and about the treatment of soldier by the government, at the very least. If we allow them to be muzzled then we're tacitly consenting to have the military's story told to us by people (the politicians) who are often frankly the *most divorced* from the realities of military service. I don't trust my MP to know one good goddamned thing about war, if I'm going to hear anything about the topic it should be from my best friend infantryman who's been to Afghanistan twice.

Clearly there are certain liberties that military personnel give up. The 'right' to come and go as they please and to live where they choose, for example. But nothing-- least of all commitment to serve as the nation's protectors-- should abridge the right to free speech as it's set out for *all* of us (that is, within the reasonable constraints against inciting hate/violence, etc). That's the one right that ought to be as inalienable as any right gets, because it's the one by which those deprived of all the others might eventually win them back.
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05:51 PM on 05/12/2012
I'm sick and tired of the fetishization of military service. Nine out of ten enlistees do so because of a lack of other opportuniites, not patriotism or some sense of duty to their country. They give up their rights beacuse a military cannot function if soldiers are free to do as they please. There are hundreds of non-military occupations where workers regularly risk their lives to perform their jobs. I don't see why military workers should deserve any more consideration.
09:09 AM on 05/13/2012
Those other works do it for money we do it for our country and its citizens. As for your stats of nine out of ten enlistees join because of lack of other opportunities, is wrong. I'm in the training system an most of the recruits join becasue they have always wanted to join some just to try it other because its what they always dreamed of doing very, very few get in because they have nothing else.
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12:10 PM on 05/13/2012
Basic training as it is used by the military is virtually identical to indoctrination techniques used by any cult. After the physical trials, verbal abuse, emotional manipulation, and the promises of honor and duty how can any young man not start to embrace the cult?
07:39 AM on 05/14/2012
"Nine out of ten enrol for lack of other opportunities" What makes you think you have any idea of what motivates someone to join the military? Do you serve? Have you ever served? Check yourself boyzreborn!

As for the young soldier, he knew the risks and consequences for speaking out.
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11:08 AM on 05/14/2012
Moral indignation is not an argument.
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04:06 PM on 05/12/2012
It is the same way in the states. Us soldiers give away quite a few rights, but I for one would not change my time I served. I am glad I gave them up so people could say what they want.
09:17 AM on 05/14/2012
Thank you for your service. We owe you.
03:36 PM on 05/12/2012
I remember a story my grandfather told me about back in the day. He was a enginer in world war two. He got to build thing before the troops showed up and wreck things wit hexplosives when they got poitned out and range ahead of the collum like good little scout ants.
One day they found three soilders in a allied army raping a young girl. And the tanker commadrer ordered the buck of the kid and shot him in the face. He then did the two others waitng in line.

When you wear the uniform you open yourself up to its honour, you do not use it as a shield.

If the commander was not long since dead I'd not tell this story on the off chance his family learned he was a killer, but it it was my great grandfather I'd be proud.
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03:16 PM on 05/12/2012
Without a doubt the Conservatives and their gutting of mental health services to our soldiers is worse for military discipline and they are to receive nothing but scorn. As are those who supported them, often while parading their patriotism and 'support the troops' mantras as bludgeons against anyone who was opposed to the military policies of the last decades. It's a disgrace that at a time when our soldiers need help the most, this government is injuring them all over again. For this alone, those who supported the Conservatives should be ashamed of themselves.

That being said Cpl. Stoesz actions are indeed damaging to discipline and order as well. Not on the same magnitude, but nonetheless they are still in contravention of the military code. Really, his action should be viewed within the lense of civil disobedience (I'm not even sure if that applies to military personnel as a concept, but this looks much like an act) as he both knows he is contravening the regulations he lives under and appears ready to accept that he will be charged as such. He's made the choice knowing the potential consequences and it will now be up to the military justice system to determine what happens to him for his actions.

Those of us outside the military need to make sure that we do our part to support his action by letting our elected representatives know how appalled we are by their action.
01:29 PM on 05/12/2012
There is an atmosphere of "stifle all dissent" in our armed forces, law enforcement, and government hierarchies. If this soldier was commenting on military policy, strategy, or a specific action in a theatre of operations, then he should be made to shut up. The regulations used to choke him off were designed with that in mind. Here we have another example of suppression of the truth for political expediency.
11:15 AM on 05/12/2012
My freedom has not been under any threat. I didn't need any dead Iraqis nor Afghanis to go about my life.
12:22 PM on 05/12/2012
Right on! The only freedom being continuously threatened are those of the Aghan's and Iraqi's.
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01:00 PM on 05/12/2012
Yeah cause they were just rolling in freedom under Saddam and the Taliban. Screw them your life won't be affected by other peoples suffering right?
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07:16 AM on 05/12/2012
Fix your title dude...
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09:42 AM on 05/12/2012
Thanks. Passed along for correction.
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06:33 AM on 05/12/2012
The military have a different set of rules no doubt.
They serve under military discipline and enjoy a fully encompassing safety net of services.
Individuals from time to time feel hard done by but the majority seem to be satisfied.
I know a number of career military people who are retired and doing OK.
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08:53 AM on 05/12/2012
And I know several hundred career military people who were retired and are still fighting for entitlements a decade later. But anecdotal evidence does not prove anything. You only have to read the news from the past several years to see that injured soldiers and veterans are being grotesquely mistreated by government: from violating the privacy of those who speak out up to last weeks report on the mis-doings of the appeal board. Your 'fully encompassing net of services' would appear to last exactly up until the soldier is injured. It goes into sharp decline after that.
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03:54 AM on 05/17/2012
Of the entire Canadian armed forces; only a very small percentage ever sees action. You can quote hardships for these who and those injured do but on the whole and over the last 30 years this is in fact not the norm. Most work their entire careers in Canada at various bases and retire with decent pensions.
12:46 PM on 05/12/2012
I'm sure you do have friends in the military but that was then this is now ,and there was no one like Mr Harper back then and just so u understand that WE are not doing well.
04:29 AM on 05/12/2012
Sorry, no sympathy for the involved soldier. The ends do not always justify the means. If you want freedom of speech, then do not sign up for military service. If an example is not made of this guy, every soldier with an axe to grind, or has a half-baked idea for that matter will be making media statements. The truth is more often than not junior non-commissioned members (and junior officers for that matter) don't have all the facts (see the big picture); that's why military - like all big organizations - have public affairs people. If this soldier had a problem with the government's policy he had two options: either send a complaint up the chain of command or get out of the service to exercise his Charter rights. By the way, the Charter guarantees freedom of mobility - another thing troops have to give up - you work and live where you are told to. Bottom line: If you want the right to shoot your mouth off whenever you want, have a problem with taking orders or want to be in a union - don't enlist.
03:10 PM on 05/12/2012
this is true, but also wrong... too often is the "don't like it, then get out" attitude rather than, hey... the system isn't working, going up the chain isn't working, something is terribly wrong. Sometimes someone has to speak up and when something is happening to somebody, they are far more qualified to speak on their own behalf than someone else, so far removed from them.

this can be said to be true about most things.
but yes, he gave up his rights and had no right to do what he did, but I don't have to agree with the logic of it when it comes to cases like this.