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Governments Powerless to Prevent Another Recession

Posted: 09/29/11 11:50 AM ET

The more you hear about the extraordinary efforts that governments around the world are taking to promote economic growth, the less confident you can be in the result.

With the clock ticking on a Greek default, members of the European Monetary Union are considering sweetening their bail out pot for a second time since the summer. The problem, however, is a bigger bail out pot in Europe is not going to save Greece, whose economy is expected to contract at about 5% for a second consecutive year. It is just going to make the write offs that much bigger for German taxpayers and French banks when the inevitable default finally occurs.

Nor is the U.S. Federal Reserve Board's latest policy gimmick, 'the twist', likely to prove any more effective in breathing new life into a stagnating economy than the measures to prevent a Greek default. The move, a throwback to an earlier attempt in 1961, has the Federal Reserve Board selling short-term securities to buy ones with longer dates up the yield curve. The goal, much like that of the Fed's earlier tranches of quantitative easing, is aimed at bringing down long-term interest rates to resuscitate a moribund housing market.

But with long dated Treasury yields already near record lows, it is not the cost of mortgages but the lack of jobs that stands in the way of Americans buying more homes. Without jobs, U.S. households are no more likely to buy homes than Greek households are to pay taxes. Other than potentially weakening the U.S. dollar, it is a classic case of a central bank trying to push on a string. And in this particular case, the greenback perversely strengthened, most notably against gold, leaving the Federal Reserve Board with nothing for its efforts.

With government deficits at record highs and interest rates already held to record lows, it is becoming increasingly obvious that European or North American governments have run out of policy options to sustain growth. Our economies appear to be heading inexorably into another recession, and there doesn't seem to be anything our governments can do anymore to prevent it.

 
 
 

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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
09:03 AM on 10/06/2011
"The problem, however, is a bigger bail out pot in Europe is not going to save Greece, whose economy is expected to contract at about 5% for a second consecutive year."

What if a large percentage of the Greek GDP is just government expenses that do not generate any NATIONAL WEALTH for Greece?

Why should the citizens of Germany work hard and then pay for the Greek Government activities?
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
03:39 PM on 10/05/2011
Unemployed US citizens should thank President Clinton who destroyed the US domestic industrial protection policies (Import Tariffs) with NAFTA, GATT, WTO, Most Favored Nation (MFN) status for China, Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, H-1b visas, repeal of The Glass-Steagall Act, etc. while he was president.

These actions destroyed the opportunities for US citizens to be employed, unless they were willing to work for the equivalent of Asian Wages, or maybe less than Asian wages so that US labor costs can compensate for the US EPA compliance costs of having jobs in the USA.

NAFTA was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on December 8, 1993 and he then started enforcing NAFTA on January 1, 1994.

To be fair, George Bush and most all of the elected Republican (and Democratic) US Congressmen and Senators were also in favor of NAFTA, so I guess the US workers were just sold out for lower cost consumer products.

The Democrats and Republicans want to continue NAFTA, WTO involvement, and (MFN) Most Favored Nation status for China.

President Obama's proposed new South Korea Free Trade Agreement (KORUS FTA) treaty will cause further relocation of more existing US jobs to South Korea?

President Obama is now proposing more Free Trade Agreements with Brazil, Columbia, and other recently industrialized that will export more manufacturing jobs from the USA to foreign countries.

I guess another few more million unemployed US citizens will not matter to President Obama!
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
11:17 AM on 10/04/2011
Without profitable US businesses­, US corporatio­ns, and US businessme­n, there will not be any jobs for US citizens in order to create wealth for those businesses­.

The US government must stop creating new legislation that drives US businesses and US jobs to foreign countries.

The US government should repeal those laws that they created that caused US businesses and US jobs to relocate to foreign nations.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
08:09 PM on 10/03/2011
Only repeal of the "Free Trade" laws, environmental laws and other anti-business laws that caused US businesses to move their US factories and the associated jobs for US citizens to overseas locations and lay off all of the US employees in order to take advantage of lower labor, lower energy and lower environmental compliance costs available in foreign countries might bring those jobs back to the USA.

This might be too late, because it will also take years to rebuild our STEM educated human manufacturing technology database that was also destroyed along with our industrial base.

Other economic factors will also require that the USA reduce the US labor costs and environmental costs of manufacturing things in the USA.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
06:08 PM on 10/03/2011
How can the USA ever possibility restart our industries (re-industrialize) to re-create jobs and also generate a positive balance of trade that will restore our economy?

Most of the people who knew how to operate the US basic industries and factories were discharged, laid off, or fired decades ago, and might now be long gone, dead and buried.

There are no books that completely tell everything about how to do most of the things that we knew how to do many decades ago when we created the industries that won WWII and then gave us a bountiful way of life for a couple of decades after WWII. (steel, wire, etc.)

The USA needs more technical and science oriented citizens that will be able to create many innovative new products and services that we can sell or exchange worldwide in return for foreign owned currency and/or Gold.

We need to get back foreign owned US dollars, foreign owned foreign currency, and foreign owned gold in return for purchase of new US produced products and services that future US manufacturers might export, instead of exporting our dollars and gold earned by previous generations before de-industrialization of the USA in payment for foreign manufactured (imported) products.

When the time comes that people in foreign nations no longer accept our freshly printed paper US dollars and freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds to pay for our imported products and our government activities, we will then be in deep trouble.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
08:12 PM on 10/03/2011
In addition to cutting spending and increasing taxes, why don’t we also re-industrialize so that there will be a larger economy to create more NATIONAL WEALTH that could be available for the government to skim off and forcibly take a big portion of that newly created NATIONAL WEALTH in the form of taxes to raise funds to pay for more BUREAUCRATIC GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE PAYROLLS, more government benefits, more government contracts and more other government expenses?

The US government does not really borrow money from banks. It raises money for bureaucratic tax paid salaries, government contracts and other federal government expenses that are in excess of tax revenues by printing and selling freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds (and other US paper debt instruments) that promise that our children and our unborn grandchildren will pay off these debt instruments on the date of the bond maturity with US dollars that they will have to earn mostly from foreign trade revenue by making and exporting consumer products to foreign countries for money.

Present US citizens have placed these burdens of re-paying our debts onto our children and future unborn generations of US citizens that will have to work hard in some factory to earn enough money to pay for our non-productive non-industrial lifestyles when these US Treasury Bonds mature.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
10:25 AM on 10/03/2011
There are things that the US Federal Government could do to save the US economy.

The US economic situation is similar to the USA selling our own body parts to keep from working to make the things that we consume. We are selling the privately owned assets that were created by previous generations of US citizens to purchase the things that we consume today and to spend for today's government services that are in excess of our tax collections.

The US government needs to accomplish the following things to reverse this situation:

Educate the public to understand basic economic principals. No technology or science knowledge is required. Only elementary school mathematics is required.

We must reverse the foreign trade deficit before we have sold all of the privately owned assets created by previous generations of US citizens and foreigners will no longer accept US dollars to purchase the necessities (food, shelter, clothing) required to support the lives of the US citizens.

We must re-industrialize in order to reverse the foreign trade deficit.

This must be done before we have sold all of the privately owned assets created by previous generations of US citizens and foreigners will no longer accept US dollars to purchase the equipment, materials, and land to re-create our US industrial base.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
10:40 AM on 10/03/2011
We must re-create the US creative wealth generating capabilities AND THE ASSOCIATED US JOBS by creating a new database of technically oriented people similar to those that won WWII and created the economic power that the USA enjoyed for a few decades after WWII.

The technical innovation, product development and design capabilities and those associated jobs went overseas along with the US manufacturing capabilities.

The USA must create superior engineers, medical doctors, dentists, and scientists if we want to regain the technological edge that the USA has lost and purposefully destroyed in the last few decades. This will not be easy, but it must be accomplished immediately before it is too late.

We must drastically cut Federal, State, and Local government spending. Maybe we cannot afford all or those services.

Maybe we can eliminate and/or drastically reduce the number of employees and the expenses for many the US Government Departments. An 85% to 95% reduction in forces and expenses should be the goal. Maybe we should entirely eliminate the Departments of Homeland Security (including FEMA), Housing and Urban Development, Interior, Labor, Health and Human Services, and Commerce.

Maybe the Departments of Transportation, Energy, Agriculture, Education, Treasury, Post Office, NASA, and other similar departments could be completely and only financially supported by the industries and businesses that they serve.

We should stop funding all foreign wars and minimize military expenses, unless the USA is attacked. Maybe we should cut the costs of the Armed Forces by 75%.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
10:42 AM on 10/03/2011
We should eliminate all of the US congressional aids and other staff serving our lawmakers. Maybe one secretary only for each congressman and each senator. Maybe then the US legislators would actually read the legislation themselves before they vote on that issue.

Maybe we could create a National sales tax and eliminate most of the IRS employee positions.

Local governments should reduce services and only provide as much police, fire, and other services as they desire to tax themselves to pay for. Local governments should totally eliminate all of the expenses for the arts and other similar entertainment, and let those who care to be entertained by those forums pay for those entertainment venues.

Welfare, SSI, Unemployment benefits, National Healthcare, National Endowment for the Arts, and other similar expenses should be eliminated NOW.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
05:43 PM on 10/02/2011
THE USA COULD REVISE THE US ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY

The USA is approaching complete de-industrialization and many industrial companies have already fired all of their US employees and relocated their factories and the associated jobs overseas rather than comply with the expensive EPA regulations and expensive US labor costs.

The basic industries such as manufacturing steel, copper, lead, petrochemicals, aluminum, plastics, chemicals, refining, cement, and etc. are not environment friendly, so I guess that you want some other jobs. Manufacturing of materials such as Pipe, Wire, Cement

Or maybe we can get along without any (industrial) jobs that make the things that we consume!

The raised costs of electricity and fuel will cause the US citizens to practice energy conservation, as the "Cap and Trade" legislation enriches the speculators and dealers of these "Carbon Permits".

US electricity costs ten times as much as Asian electricity, due to EPA regulations.

Existing environmental laws, and the anticipated costs of future environmental legislation that will be "piled onto" our remaining US located industries (that stay in the USA) will cause the remainder of our US industries and US jobs to relocate to overseas locations.

US citizens will have cleaner air to breathe after the current administration has closed down (most) all of our remaining basic industry factories and terminated the employment of most of those US citizens that were employed there! Foreigners will be employed in those relocated foreign factories as they make the things that US citizens were/are consuming.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
06:03 PM on 10/02/2011
There was an era in the 1950's when people living in Pasadena, Texas would say that their refinery pollution smelled like jobs, US dollars in the pockets, food on the table, housing to live in, and college educations for their children.

I do not like it when a few of us would die or get sick from polluted air, but this is better than the majority of us starving to death from economic chaos or being a crime victim when the US economy disintegrates.

Some percentage of US citizens are/were harmed each year by our industrial pollution, but when US environmental regulations cause total collapse of our US economy, most all of our US citizens will be unemployed, homeless, hungry, starving to death, without any medical care, angry, hopeless and otherwise more seriously harmed.

The EPA, if it is not disbanded, must be re-organized with orders not to hamper any re-industrialization of the USA.

If the EPA had been created in 1865, the USA would be a third world country of unemployed beggars today, or maybe a part of Germany or Japan.

If the US economy implodes, the USA will probably resemble India, Mexico, China, etc., as these countries were in the decades before they industrialized.

I do not believe that any of these foreign countries will help the US citizens if we are in distress.
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windwolf
07:56 PM on 10/02/2011
The real reason for the outsourcing of our jobs overseas has absolutely nothing to do with regulation, workplace, environmental etc., but with exploiting the cheapest labor markets around the globe. Cases in point. Intel and HP two of the largest of our computer and internet technology corporations are building huge plants to staff hundreds of thousands of workers. The size of one Intel clean room is as large as four football fields. Imagine the thousands of workers filling this room and many like it. Well unfortunately these plants are not located in our country. They're located in Vietnam! Why? Not because of excessive US regulation, that's simply a myth that big business wants naive citizens to believe. The real reason is that the wage scale in Vietnam is a miniscule 25% of the wage scale in China!!! Not because of China's regulatory restrictions on manufacturing. These are non-existent in China. It's strictly about dollars saved by employing workers for near slave wages. a national casualty Insurance company recently fired all their claims adjusting employees, and shipped their jobs overseas to India, at 25% of what they paid their former employees. Don't tell me it had to do with excessive regulation, It's all about the bottom line. Corporate America would have us believe otherwise. We'll never see a jobs recovery at a living wage as long as these multi-national carpetbaggers can find labor at a fraction of US wage scales, and have total freedom to do so.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
10:06 AM on 10/03/2011
In addition to the higher cost of US labor, US manufacturing companies are hamstrung with ten times more expensive electrical energy that is required to be generated in compliance with the EPA regulations, future health care payroll tax costs, future unemployment payroll tax costs increases, future increases in social security and medical care payroll tax costs, environmental manufacturing costs, fringe (holiday and vacation) benefit payroll costs, OSHA compliance payroll costs, union labor work rules, anti-business laws, and general anti-business public attitudes that make manufacturing products in the USA many many times more costly than manufacturing the same product in almost any other foreign country?

Taxes on profits are a small factor compared to the other costs.
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windwolf
06:47 PM on 10/03/2011
Oh Really! Then how come BMW and Volkswagon have built multiple auto plants in this country. I'll tel you why! It's not just to save money on Trans Atlantic shipping costs. It's because they pay their US auto workers $14.00 per hour with minimal benefits, and forget about pensions. But they pay their own auto workers in Germany $28.00 per hour. Twice what our auto workers are paid. In effect we're beginning to become a kind of third world country when it comes to a source of cheap labor in some manufacturing sectors. Corporate America cries poverty on the way to the bank, depositing huge historic profits. It US mfg. and environmental regulations certainly don't deter foreign companies from capitalizing on, or should say exploiting cheap labor sources in our wealthy nation. Lastly it's highly doubtful that our so-called excessive regulations are nay different for an advanced and informed prosperous nation like Germany. Surveys of mfg. labor pay scales in the Us show a continual drop in pay scales over the past twenty years. It's really a convenient excuse to justify these, by whining about mfg. and environmental regulations.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
05:35 PM on 10/02/2011
After the American Revolution, extremely high import tariffs were originally proposed by Alexander Hamilton, the first U.S. Secretary of the Treasury to help protect and create American industries.

The congress of the USA instituted (extremely) high import tariffs to encourage the industrialization of the USA, and it was successful in establishing a positive balance of trade, accumulating Gold reserves, creating a manufacturing base, creating a technical data base, and making the USA independent from England for technology.

One way or another we must stop the exchanging title to everything of value that is privately owned in America as required to get US dollars back from industrious foreigners in foreign countries to pay for government expenditures, and also to pay for the things that we import with US dollars shipped to foreigners.

We must create a positive balance of trade by any means possible.

If not, we will destroy the purchasing power of the US dollar with the negative trade balance.

Without import tariffs, most all products will continue to be available for less US dollars if they are manufactured in foreign countries where labor costs are minimized than if the same products are manufactured in the USA with higher paid US labor and higher environmental compliance costs.

The US labor force has no future without high import tariffs to prohibit foreign imported products.
04:00 PM on 10/02/2011
Bold leadership can return the country to prosperity virtually overnight. However, NOWHERE in this country can bold leadership be found. Our approach to the current DEPRESSION is like our approach to the Vietnam War. A little here, a little there, but nothing decisiive until the whole effort ends in misery. The Federal Reverve destroyed the economy with overzealous interest rate increases. It is their's to fix. I am very confident that if the Federal Reserve began buying all maturing T-Bills about 1 month before maturity and used the proceeds at maturity to buy new issues (pure and simple money printing), the economy would flourish. This would force everybody (including sovereign wealth funds) out of T-Bills into other investments. This would be a real boon to the economy, real quick. The side benefit would be that the Federal Reserve (a government agency) would become the holder of all T-Bills, thereby eliminating the debt and deficit. With no need for fiscal restraint, the government could act in good conscience to create jobs by direct transfers of cash to individuals. For starters, the government could scrap the latest stimulus bill (with directed spending) and instead give the $1,500 per person contained in the bill directly to the citizenry. If only a BOLD, DECISIVE LEADER could be found amongst all the whiny, crying, little boys and girls currently in charge of our national institutions!!!!!
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
06:00 PM on 10/03/2011
Do you suggest that the USA just buy some paper and print more and more US Dollars to buy back these US issued securities?

That would create a condition to post WWI Germany, where it took a wheelbarrow full of german Marks to buy a loaf of bread!

How did they earn that money to buy things???
eweb544468
gravitas, dignitas,iustitia
02:39 PM on 10/07/2011
They did not earn any money. They were very hungry, cold, no doctor, no clothes etc.Besides most of the men had no work. Therefore no money-no buying-break down of law and order and COUNTRY.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
01:15 PM on 10/02/2011
We all must realize that permanent jobs are only created by businesses, corporations, and businessmen in order to create wealth for those businesses.

We must also realize that PRIVATELY HELD NATIONAL WEALTH is made, created, and/or acquired mainly (maybe only) when the members of a family (or the citizen businessmen of a nation, city-state, island, tribe, etc.) perform one or more of the following tasks:

1. plant, grow and/or harvest something of commercial value from the earth;

2. extract something of commercial value from the earth;

3. manufacture something of commercial value that is consumable;

4. construct permanently useful for rental income;

5. provide professional services (medical, legal, dental, engineering, architecture, land surveying, technology, accounting, etc.);

and then trade, sell, lease or rent these items and/or services to parties outside of their family, in return for a net transfer of gold, currency or commodities from other parties outside of their family into their own family.

The members of that family (tribe, state, nation) can then reflect their real NATIONAL WEALTH and financial security with the net positive accumulation of grain, gold, cattle, jewels, land, buildings, hotels, casinos, factories, commodities and/or other marketable products that are then available to be used for economic security for reserve use in times of emergency and/or also to raise the standard of living for the members of that family and also accumulate redeemable products and/or commodities any printed currency that they might care to issue.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
01:29 PM on 10/02/2011
Some of this privately held NATIONAL WEALTH that was created by industrious and GREEDY private businessmen (and the GREEDY Corporations) is then also available to be confiscated in the form of taxation in order to create funds to form a government with money to build and operate schools, streets, water and sewer systems, repay sovereign national debts, pork barrel projects, green projects, infrastructure projects, wars, streets, bridges, highways, welfare, unemployment, school teachers, policemen, courts, prisons fire fighters, social security and other government provided bureaucratic services for that family, tribe, city, state, or nation.

There are limits to the amount of NATIONAL WEALTH that can be taken from the wealth creators in the form of taxes and paid to the government for various expenses, no matter how much these government expenses are deemed as being "necessary" (usually by the elite government bureaucrats).

If/when those limits are exceeded, then that nations economy will self destruct!
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
03:14 PM on 10/02/2011
The US International Trade Deficit must be corrected by any means possible in order to generate more NATIONAL WEALTH and stop the flow of title to US located assets (privately owned businesses, factories, casinos, hotels, farms, land, ports, refineries, forests, ports, breweries, distilleries, and other NATIONAL WEALTH) that are leaving the USA to pay for the things that we import and also to pay for increasing government expenses, such as stimulus for infrastructure expenses.

The Trade Deficit is the basic structural economic foundation problem that will destroy the US economic miracle because title to US located assets are also leaving the USA to pay for the things that we import in addition to US government expenses.

Brazil, Pakistan, India, China, South Korea, and other industrialized countries of the world with a positive net foreign trade balance are net creators of the NATIONAL WEALTH for their nations and the de-industrialized USA with a negative net trade balance is a net consumer (destroyer) of the existing NATIONAL WEALTH in the USA.
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mrclark
I search for the America I believed in as a boy.
01:02 PM on 10/02/2011
Outsourcing for cheap labor has finally come home to roost. This combined with systemic inequality has dramatically decreased the buying power of the average American worker on which many foreign economies were based on. America will pull out of these doldrums due to national resources, but not until trade agreements and income disparity are addressed. The question is how long will it take for an effective leader to step forward who is not ideologically bound to Reagan?
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
11:04 AM on 10/02/2011
I believe that the USA needs more greedy men like Henry Ford, Thomas Alva Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, George Westinghouse, Lee Iacocca, George Washington Carver, Thomas Davenport, George Eastman, Philo Taylor Farnsworth, Benjamin Franklin, Robert Hutchings Goddard, Rear Admiral Grace Murray Hopper, Edwin Herbert Land, Cyrus Hall McCormick, Elijah McCoy, Samuel Finley Breese Morse, Elisha Graves Otis, Jonas Salk, Wilbur Wright and Orville Wright who were technology oriented and also more than likely motivated by greed for financial rewards to create more industries (and jobs for US citizens).

All of these greedy men created new technology, benefits and employment for many US citizens who benefited with the employment created by the greed for wealth that these men exhibited.

If new technology is created by US citizens today, those jobs to manufacture those products would/will be created in foreign countries as ECONOMICALLY REQUIRED by the US FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS in order to tahe advantage of lower labor, lower electricity, lower payroll taxes, and lower environmental manufacturing costs.
12:34 PM on 10/02/2011
They used their companies to grow jobs. Those with the money today are not doing anthing with it but save it for themselves. That is the problem. The above listed are not the saints you are paining them to be. They abused their workers and practiced economic policies which caused terrible "bubbles" and market crashes. The rise of regulations helped protect the working class. They abused the workers as much as companies do today.
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gerald4
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01:22 PM on 10/02/2011
The US government created free trade treaties ECONOMICALLY REQUIRE that US businesses utilize FOREIGN labor, environmental regulations and electrical costs, if they want to provide the lowest possible price in the USA for each US consumer purchase.

The alternate is for the US businesses to utilize US labor, electricity, payroll taxes, EPA compliance, and then go into bankruptcy if their competitors operate in foreign environments.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
01:45 PM on 10/02/2011
I did not say that these individuals were saints.

These individuals gave other individuals jobs.

The employer-employee relationship can be voided by either party, at any time.

Would you prefer a communist form of government?
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
10:42 AM on 10/02/2011
Only the GREEDY private sector businesses and GREEDY corporations create real JOBS for US citizens to work and to create wealth for these US corporations and US businessmen.

That business activity generates NATIONAL WEALTH as business profits, private personal income, inventory, foreign product exports, and real property so that this newly created (and the existing) NATIONAL WEALTH is then available to be CONFISCATED through taxation TO PAY FOR GOVERNMENT bureaucratic employee payrolls, infrastructure improvement contracts and other government expenses.

This NATIONAL WEALTH is then also available as security redeemable for any US Treasury Bonds that come due, and also to pay off any existing government bonds when they become due at maturity.

Federal, state, county, municipal, school district and other various government taxing authorities CONSUME (or destroy) the NATIONAL WEALTH that was created by the GREEDY private sector and then spent by the tax supported activities provided by government employees. Without taxes, the public sector jobs would not exist.

If Federal Government deficit spending destroys the US economy, then the WEALTH CREATING GREEDY businesses and the GREEDY corporations will disappear. Without GREEDY business activity to generate NATIONAL WEALTH to be taxed to pay for government activities, then all of those government jobs, government services, government benefits, government contracts, Tax Supported Non Government Organizations and other government programs at every level will disappear for lack of funding because there might/will not be any NATIONAL WEALTH left in the GREEDY private sector to be confiscated to pay for government spending activities.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
10:34 AM on 10/02/2011
The jobs for US citizens in the basic industries such as manufacturing steel, copper, lead, petrochemicals, aluminum, plastics, chemicals, refining, cement, and etc. are not environment friendly, so I guess that you want some other jobs. Manufacturing of other products such as pipe, wire, cement, reinforcing bars, plate steel, appliances, automobiles, transformers and many other items have been also relocated overseas to escape EPA regulations.

The jobs for US citizens in the basic industries such as manufacturing steel, copper, lead, petrochemicals, aluminum, plastics, chemicals, refining, cement, and etc. have been also relocated overseas to escape the cost of EPA regulations. Manufacturing of other products such as pipe, wire, cement, reinforcing bars, plate steel, appliances, automobiles, transformers and many other items have been also relocated overseas to escape the cost of EPA regulations.
11:58 AM on 10/02/2011
Great we have choice, jobs or toxic environment. China will soon learn that the cost of cleaning up after years of environmental decline and abuse will be high. The population is already protesting high levels of polution/Most recently at solar panel factory. Youkeep hearing about villages were 50% plus of population has cancer. rtremember Movie Erin Brovrich' how that one comummity was loaded up with cancer cases. Imagine a whole country like that. Destorying environment a false econmy.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
01:30 PM on 10/02/2011
Do you prefer to watch your children starve to death if we destroy the US economy with EPA regulations and deficit federal spending?
10:32 AM on 10/02/2011
The point to all these strategies used by western govmets is to prolong the inevitable. What the American federal govmet should have done was come to the rescue with massive amounts of 'tax give backs' to most if not all americans. Why on earth would the millionaires / billionaires need to employ people when no one is buying? Bottom up sustained encouragement from the US federal govmet was the fastest most efficient use of capital outlays never discussed. At this point a decade of stagnant employment will be the best result from an dysfunctional US govmet intent on contracting even more.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
01:33 PM on 10/02/2011
Maybe Mr. Gaithner could hire some of the NASCAR mechanics to modify his printing presses to print US dollars and US Treasury bonds as fast as he needs to print money so that he will always have enough money to pay for all of the quickly increasing US government expenses.
eweb544468
gravitas, dignitas,iustitia
02:59 PM on 10/06/2011
we do not have enough paper to print US dollars and US Treasury bonds. The printing press will be overheated and stops printing.