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Real Villains of Batman Shooting are Lax Gun Laws

Posted: 07/20/2012 3:19 pm

Last night, at the opening night of The Dark Knight Rises, a gas-masked gunman opened fire at a theatre full of people, killing twelve and injuring dozens more. From CBS:

The violent and chaotic scene erupted about 12:30 a.m. local time as the suspected gunman, identified as 24-year-old James Holmes, stood at the front of one of the Century 16 theaters at the Aurora Mall where the latest Batman movie The Dark Knight Rises was playing. Witnesses reported that the gunman entered the theater through an emergency exit door and threw a gas canister before opening fire.

He reportedly had a shotgun, two pistols, an assault rifle, gas canisters, and potentially explosives in his home.

This is a horrible tragedy. Children as young as three months old were sent to the emergency room.

What I don't understand is how it can possibly be alright for a civilian to have access to these kinds of weapons. I don't understand how these shootings can happen over and over again, and we have state governments who seem to have their hands tied by gun lobby groups like the NRA. It is outrageous. Innocent people are being mowed down because it is incredibly easy for anybody to acquire and carry assault rifles, handguns, and even automatic weapons. In some states, anybody can walk around with a concealed weapon. In other states, you can shoot somebody if they are on your property. I live in Canada, but even here there are clearly enough guns to go around.

Did you know that the United States was reported to be the most armed country in the world, with 90 guns for every 100 citizens? There are 270 million firearms in the U.S. alone as of this report, which means it is almost 300 million now. I hate to use an individual tragedy to make a political point, but to me there is a direct relationship between the high volume of gun ownership, easy access to weapons, and widespread gun violence. In the U.S. in 2011, there were an astounding 12,996 murders, 8,775 of which were caused by firearms. America leads the world in school shootings.

Violent incidents like what happened in Aurora, Colorado exist within a larger cultural, legal, and social framework. If we continue to ignore that framework and the root causes of this violence, we do so at our peril. My heart goes out to the victims of this horrible incident in Colorado, I hope the perpetrator is locked up forever, and I hope that we really consider what steps we need to take to stop this violence from recurring again.


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Radioburning
11:58 PM on 08/09/2012
Banning guns would work just as well as banning drugs...
01:49 PM on 07/22/2012
IF you don't understand, than you need to do more research or you're simply spreading anti-firearm propaganda with your ignorance.

Building up the nanny state even more to protect people in a bubble from the world isn't the answer.

Surprisingly, criminals don't follow the law and sweeping gun bans have only ever been promoted and carried about by some of the worst genocide in human history.

Try again.
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Dennis Schmunk
12:13 PM on 07/22/2012
Part of the American problem is in the licensing of sellers. If you don't have a criminal record it's possible and simple to sell firearms out of your apartment.

The Canadian problem is a porous border with guns being shipped in along with meth and coke. Did you think it was just contraband cigarettes crossing through first nation territories?

Gun control at least in terms of automatic weapons and hand guns will only be effective by putting the squeeze on the source. How many more people would die from prescription drugs if licences to sell were handed out as easily? Make it a free trade issue at the next round of NAFTA.
12:12 PM on 07/22/2012
Try putting a ban on all the violence people expose their children to on TV and video games. This is where they learn violence and hatred and how to use their weapons. The U.S. is the most violent, war mongering people on earth.Constantly creating false flags for an excuse to go into other countries to kill and steal their resources.GREED is your NAME and GREED is your GAME,Control comes from ISRAEL and the GREEDY BANKERS....THE AXIS OF EVIL still reigns in the US.You are poisoning our food ,land, water and the air, and your FEMA prison camps will take care of those who resist.What can you expect from a country who elects an imposter to fill the office of PRESIDENT? Or is he there just to be the SCAPEGOAT?????
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Douglas Sinclair
sufferin' succotash!
01:48 PM on 07/22/2012
Did you 'Fan' yourself somehow?
11:19 AM on 07/22/2012
A couple of comments regarding Mr. Bowman's article. First, the belief that by banning firearms or certain types of firearms will result in fewer deaths is flawed The reason is if someone wants to make a statement by committing mass murder, then will they do it. If they can't use firearms, they will something else such as explosives. Example, the Oklahoma bombing was the worst terrorist attack against the U.S. prior to 9/11. The worst mass murder (Air India) in Canadian history was also a bombing. I would also point out that in Columbine High School shootings the killers original plan was to use a bomb and they had actually planted the bombs in the school cafeteria, but fortunately they failed to explode or the death toll could of been much higher. When they failed to explode the killers went to Plan B.

All that happens with the banning of firearms,as one recent commentator stated is that ordinary citizens are deprived of the means to defend themselves.

A final comment, yes the United States does have a high murder rate, but most people forget (or don't realize) is that after China and India, the U.S. (with a pop. of 310 million) is the third most populated country in the world. For comparison, the pop. of the WHOLE European Union is something like 450 million. A large population equals a large crime rate.
11:06 PM on 07/22/2012
LJB777 the murder rate is a per capita thingy. You know = how many people killed by guns per hundred or per thousand. It has nothing to do with the population. Its all about statistics and has nothing to do with the population. nd you probably believe guns don't kill people - people kill people. So that guy in Colorado - the neuroscience student had a gun whicch could shoot a hundred rounds in a minute or so. And he had othergunss. then there is Columbine. Somehow I can't imagine the same carnage being done in such a short time with a knife.
09:08 PM on 07/24/2012
My point is that a country with a large population has the potential to have a very high crime rate. More people, more criminals=more victims. Granted this is not a large and fast rule, there are countries out there like South Africa that have a small population, but have a horrendous high crime rate.

Yes, I actually believe in the maxim "that people kill people." A firearm is an inanimate object. It can be used for good or evil. It cannot move on its own; it can not just jump and start shooting people. It can only do that when a human being picks up the gun, loads it, points it and starts shooting.

The rifle used (AR-15) was semi-automatic not automatic and therefore unable to fire a "hundred" rounds a minute. Even so, he was still able unleash hell on earth. That was because he had a 100 round magazine fitted to the rifle. Why they allow the manufacture of 100 rd mags is beyond me there are no legit reasons to have one. Good thing the rifle jammed or it could have been worse.

You seem to have missed my point that if someone is planning to commit mass murder they will find a way to do so. Whether its by manufacturing a bomb(s) (e.g. Oklahoma, Air India) or plowing a vehicle into a crowd of people (which has also happened before) they will get their moment of glory.
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AlisonCarnie
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02:24 AM on 07/22/2012
Canada was settled by the railroad ... I don't know one person that owns a gun ... or why they would.

The US was settled by the gun ... it is part of the culture.

Tragic.
10:27 AM on 07/22/2012
You need to read your history books a bit more. Early Canadian settlers relied on firearms just as much as American settlers. The big differences between the two countries is that in the U.S. there were more settlers heading into the wilderness then there was in Canada; more people meant more conflict.

The second difference is that in Canada law enforcement/local government closely followed the settlers or in some cases actually preceded the settlers. The opening-up of western Canada is a good example of this; compare the early history of Canada with that of the western U.S.

As for not knowing anyone who owns a gun, it depends on where you live. I grew up in small-town Saskatchewan and practically every household had one or more firearms in it.
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AlisonCarnie
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11:02 AM on 07/22/2012
Thank you for your reply ... learned a great deal. There was a show on TVO about Canada and that is my reference point for my post.

My uncle was a Mountie and, albeit, he retired in the 1960's, never carried a gun.

I grew up in Islington in Toronto ... middle class ...

I probably should have stated we don't get our identity from a firearm ... how's that?
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Alison
01:51 PM on 07/22/2012
Per capita, Canadians have more guns than Americans.

Do you live in the city?

Try again.
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Douglas Sinclair
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06:05 PM on 07/22/2012
Per capita U.S.-88.8 per 100-rank #1

Canada -30.8- rank #13

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

Just try, even. Facts are your friend.
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JeanFrancois Lord
10:07 PM on 07/22/2012
but the type of gun is different, canada is mainly hunting riffles. and the US mainly hand guns.
12:39 AM on 07/22/2012
From the posts that I read its seems that its equally ok to be armed to the teeth with assault rifles and semi-automatic weapons as much as 1 sidearm for home defense.

There has to be a limit somewhere.
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Douglas Sinclair
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01:44 PM on 07/22/2012
What you might be missing is in the case of Switzerland's standing militia (compulsory), the weapons are SUPER controlled. They made it a 'knowable knowable' in the words of Donald Rumsfeld as to where every one is and when they are to be used.
06:53 PM on 07/21/2012
How about if instead of blaming guns, we start looking at the real problem, people! A gun can't shoot itself! If the freaks don't have guns, they will use knives or bombs or baseball bats! We need to fix society, not get rid of guns!
11:19 PM on 07/21/2012
mukker if you think a man with a knife could kill so many people plus wounding about 70 more you need to go back to school. Guns kill people. They are made to kill people and they now do it quick and easy and without any skills required. Now a baseball bat will kill also as will the foot of a man. However, the United States has more deaths from guns than anywhere any place in the world in history. The fact is few people are killed in a couple of minutes using a baseball bat or a knife. Baseball bats are made for games and knives are made for cutting meat or cake - not people.
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Karen Pottruff
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04:06 PM on 07/21/2012
Okay, banning ownership of guns in America is not a popular idea? What is the answer?
01:52 PM on 07/22/2012
Psychos will be psychos.

Criminals can find guns.

It isn't hard to do, even under the most strict of conditions. Just more risky.
11:40 AM on 07/21/2012
The only people who are hurt by gun control laws are those who abide by the law.

Look at the history of gun control laws in the world and see that they all result in groups of people being rounded up and exterminated. Is the USA next?

You gotta realize that the 'lone wolf' storyline is a slap in the face to all intelligent people. Unemployed student with $20,000 of serious weaponry is a SERIOUS contradiction.

Unless they're going to start restricting currently-available methods to procure fully-automatic weapons and gas canisters, this event MUST NOT influence gun control laws.
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PortlandZoo
Wait... what?
10:45 AM on 07/21/2012
"I hate to use an individual tragedy to make a political point..." Why? this is exactly the time to make a point. And it will be politics that changes things - eventually.
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kazenoya1
09:15 AM on 07/21/2012
Its called our constitution.
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AlisonCarnie
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02:22 AM on 07/22/2012
The Constitution meant that the military had the right to bear arms.
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09:20 PM on 07/20/2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States

Spin however you want, people with guns kill, every minute of every day...
07:53 PM on 07/20/2012
Maybe someone needs to explain to Mr. Bowman that the theater was a "gun free" zone...

As it turns out, gun laws didn't make any body safer, because gun laws ensured that the lunatic had the monopoly on the usage of force!

Gun laws disarmed the victims.
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kazenoya1
09:16 AM on 07/21/2012
Well said.
12:13 PM on 07/21/2012
As has been pointed out before, arming everyone tends to lead to more deaths, not less. In a situation like this, in the fear and panic most of the shooting would have been done before anyone had a chance to pull out a gun. More than this, once 10 or 20 more people pulled out guns, in the confusion of the moment, they would have been just as likely to start shooting each other as the criminal.
07:48 PM on 07/20/2012
Part 3!

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew
most Americans were ARMED!

SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS AND ISSUES EVERY ADULT A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
12:54 PM on 07/21/2012
Japan never considered invading America.

The Swiss government does this because of their history of being a small country vulnerable to attack from larger neighbours. The training is part of overall military reserve training, which makes every adult male a member of their military reserve. Gun ownership is embedded in a culture of social responsibility. When the US establishes a culture of responsibility and requires military reserve training for everyone who owns a gun, then maybe Americans will be able to handle a high level of gun ownership without killing each other at alarming rates.
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Douglas Sinclair
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04:23 AM on 07/22/2012
Actually, Japan occupied the Aleutian islands of Attu and Kiska in 1942-43. Airstrips were being built which could have allowed bombers to reach mainland Alaska and British Columbia. They were re-taken by a joint American/Canadian task force.
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Douglas Sinclair
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01:21 PM on 07/21/2012
Visited Switzerland 30 yrs. ago in the off season. Happened upon a village that was 'occupied' by the army on manoeuvres. They are armed to the teeth to protect themselves from invaders, not their fellow citizens as in the U.S.