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Should Good People go to Hell?

Posted: 08/29/2012 3:30 pm

A faculty member at an elite educational institution in Pakistan mentioned in his recent Express Tribune blog piece that more than 80 per cent of his students replied in the negative on the question of Mother Teresa's entering Heaven. The overwhelming majority of students reasoned that despite saving thousands of lives, she was not a Muslim.

Some things never change. As a young student in 1997, I recall getting perturbed by discussions on the fate of Mother Teresa. The essence of all these discussions was that notwithstanding good deeds, it was the correct belief that decided salvation. Years later, when I allowed myself to accept progressive Muslim voices, I confirmed my intrinsic value that being a good human being trumps religious beliefs and rituals any day.

However, given the uncertainty of life and the mystery beyond death, it was not easy to break free of religious authority. In my mind, as an undergrad student, I was trying to find religious reasons to shield the various people I had come to know from Hell fire.

I tried to square the supposed obligation of wearing the headscarf with the reality of many women who did not wear one. I tried to reconcile the obligation of the five daily prayers with the many young and old Muslims who did not follow through all the ritual prayers.

As a follower of tradition, I could not expect myself to espouse any radically different viewpoint. Yet, apart from poring over traditional texts, I was drawn by Sufi tales of wisdom and moved by both Christian and Hindu hymns. I still remember standing intentionally, shoulder to shoulder, with a lone Ahmadi Muslim colleague to pray in the direction of Mecca. To date, Ahmadi Muslims continue to be persecuted in Pakistan.

Pursuing my grad studies in Alberta allowed me to stretch beyond my comfort zone. I recall preaching in my usual manner on the Israeli Palestinian situation that followers of the Abrahamic faiths were brothers. It was then a good friend interjected that we were all brothers, alluding to the presence of our Hindu friend.

The aftermath of September 11 not only brought scrutiny to Muslims but also facilitated several changes in Muslim norms. Some religious scholars opined that the headscarf was not an obligation, whereas others allowed room for female led mixed-congregational prayers. I not only realized that religious opinion was shifting from the dogmatic to the reasonable but also recognized that this would be a slow moving process.

While conservative Muslims were slowly accepting some changes, progressive Muslims pushed for radical reform on a whole array of issues including same-sex marriage and religious pluralism. My own search for answers brought me to the Southminster Steinhauer United Church, where I finally found the courage to affirm my own intrinsic values.

Some congregation members had come from other denominations where they found emphasis on the law at the expense of the human being. Conservative Muslim leaders like Shaykh Hamza Yusuf have echoed this sentiment by stating that the law was meant to serve human beings instead of the other way around. However, conservative religious authorities usually do not follow through such opinions.

I like to refer to the Southminster Steinhauer Church as my Church and its minister Reverend Dr. Nancy Steeves as my minister. Whenever I go to Church, I find meaning as a Muslim for I can connect with Reverend Nancy through past Muslim Sufi poets -- Rumi, Hafez and Bulleh Shah.

Reverend Nancy has inspired me with her themes of "building a spacious table" and "drawing the circle wide." When she wrote that the divine was not a stingy Grinch who needed to be praised or thanked, I reconnected with the 8th century female Sufi Rabia Basri who rejected reward- and fear-based worship.

Conservative Muslim leaders try to break barriers based on physical appearance, economic status and skin colour, yet in doing so they erect one based on religious affiliation. In contrast, the Prophet's teaching that keeping good relations with people is better than fasting, prayer or charity cannot be clearer.

I have found this teaching of the Prophet echoed through various sources. I found it when Calgary-based Muslim Dr. David Liepert wrote that agnostics show the most respect to God by not putting him into a box of their own making and when C.S. Lewis wrote that a sincere prayer made even to a false God was accepted by the true God.

The teachings of several Muslim sages contain elements of such religious pluralism. While, the 11th century Ali Hujwiri equated self righteousness with idolatory, the 13th century Shams Tabrizi equated disrespecting the beliefs of others with not respecting God. Likewise, the 13th century Ibn Arabi cautioned on interfering with the beliefs of others indicating that God was found in every form of belief.

In light of such teachings, one begins to feel too small in musing over the question of Mother Teresa's salvation. In short, while a younger me would have treated religion like a cult by wanting people to become Muslims, I would not affirm that today. Rather, all I would hope for others and for myself is to be a better human being -- to love one another. This, for me, is the first commandment against which all else pales in comparison.

 
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10:52 AM on 09/07/2012
It is interesting that so many posters are so certain of their 'faith', that based solely on personal experience and belief, they can state so fervently and with such conviction that all others are wrong. What arrogance.

I am referring, of course, to the atheists.
01:33 PM on 08/30/2012
By definition, God is so much greater than we are that no one can ever hope to understand him (or her. See, we are already at a loss). So if none of us truly understands God, why does anyone argue about religion? All points of view are equally relevant; no one has a monopoly on religious truth. So please stop fighting your holy wars. Rather, listen to other opinions and possibly expand your own understanding.
10:54 AM on 08/30/2012
I find it interesting that Canadian Huffpost commenters are completely different than those in Huffpost.com (american). Half of the american commenters would be against the writers views because he is a muslim, the other half would be espousing how their religion is better than his. (I'm stretching it a bit here). In Canada, we seem to have a lot more enlightened people, since most reviews are pro a-theism and rational. What gives me hope is that the author himself says that his rigid views are changing to the progressive side. Eventually he will come to at least accept the possibility of "no god", which is not allowed in Islam. The future is looking brighter.
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canobserv
10:35 AM on 08/30/2012
A writer with a PHD..and we are having a convo about Hell.........good grief..wake me up when we get there
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agness nutter
What fresh hell is this?
05:36 AM on 08/30/2012
I find it very hard to understand adults having this sort of conversation in the 21st century. It is absurd.
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albertarick
These are questions for wise men with skinny arms
01:28 AM on 08/30/2012
Religions are a grand experiment to keep oppressed people from acting in their own interests. It has been proven to work very effectively.
11:12 PM on 08/29/2012
the article and the path that the author is taking should be lauded but the sense one gets is that he still hasn't reached the end of his path. Ultimately, the only realistic conclusion you can draw after an examination of all the major faiths, is that they are inconsistent at their very core with the very values that we should all espouse - a clear indication of the falseness of the very idea, and an indication that these are contemporary man-made texts that serve as the basis of religion. At the end I suspect the author may eventually end his walk where it rightly should be - as an atheist. No need to worry about where Mother Theresa ended up either or who to love or hate.
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Don McLeod
11:04 PM on 08/29/2012
Martin Luther observed that reason is God's enemy and should be crushed. So those that reason are hell bound. Today we are starting to appreciate we have two thinking processes system 1, reactionary, and system 2, reasoned. So Heaven must be Hell for those that reason. System 2 thinkers spending all of time with lazy system 1 thinkers. And hell must be heaven.
10:25 PM on 08/29/2012
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
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09:28 PM on 08/29/2012
If I can borrow some religious terminology, one of the main sins of religious dogma is that it breeds tribalism. This sort of "in group" and "out of group" mentality is destructive. In a coming age when the world is going to have to unite to stop a race to the resource extraction bottom, Muslims condemning a Christian to hell for following the wrong prophet—but ostensibly the same god—is not an encouraging sign. And people slag atheists all the time, but at least we don't run around condemning the everlasting souls—which don't actually exist, but I digress—of billions of people to an eternal fiery hell.
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ego doctus ignarus
07:53 PM on 08/29/2012
The only Hell is the one you carry around on your back as you go through life.

Hell is an entirely man made fantasy creation, Meant to keep children cowed and adults submissive.

Death is nothing more then a change of existence, You become other than, And that is all man will ever know. Even when we master electronic existence and we will*...We will never know what happened to the ones that went before.

There is a heaven and your standing in it we just chose to make it into a hell.

* That is if nature gives us time....which I highly doubt.
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MaxKramer
07:41 PM on 08/29/2012
Great article. As far as churches go, I quite like the United Church. They're accepting of all religions. The times that I have gone, comments are made that there are many ways to God and enlightenment. Heck, even may atheists attend the church, me included. They are not a fundamentalist church which is also good. Stories in the bible are mostly related as parables rather than literal truth.
12:43 AM on 08/30/2012
Hence the term (for the United Church) the 'comfortable pew'. I seem to recall several years ago that one of the heads of the United Church said that it wasn't even necessary that he believe in God. THAT'S pretty open minded.
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07:37 PM on 08/29/2012
You might as well poll your students about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Once you die, you're going nowhere.

Your one and only chance of being alive will be over.
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rickthaluddite
What noisy cats are we
04:15 PM on 08/30/2012
I know how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. As many as can fit.
The Westender
People prefer simple lies to complicated truths
07:04 PM on 08/29/2012
I think there will be a lot of people from all religions that are going to be very disappointed when the stand at the gates of Heaven. There will be no test on your holy book, no attendance roll read for attending church. There is only one path to heaven that is love. I know it's in the Bible. I am not familiar enough with the other branches of my tree, Islam and Judaism, so I can not comment on the Koran and Torah.

My prayers are for the people that look into their religion and find justification for their hate. To me, as a Christian, Mathew 25: 34 to 45 seems pretty clear or as it says in John 2:9 “Anyone who claims to be in the light, but hates his brother is still in the darkness.”