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Whether or Not I Want Kids is None of Your Business

Posted: 07/20/2012 12:10 pm

I was at a dinner party recently where the topic of kids came up. My hosts, a slightly older couple, talked about how much they were looking forward to trying, a process they were going to start in the next few months. I'm friendly with these folks, and I had noticed that "their kids" came up in conversation a lot: "Our kids are going to wear this kind of hat," "Our kids are going to be such little meat-eaters," "Our kids are going to love this place." Despite not, you know, having any kids, I can understand that talking about your future family can bring these as-yet-unmet little people into sharper focus, which can feel nice. Planning can feel like doing, and when you crave a baby or two in your life, discussing the little rugrats at length can make it feel like they're almost here.

As we were clearing the plates, she asked me, "Do you want kids?"

I stammered out an answer. Yes. No. I don't know. I don't want kids right now, when my relationship is younger than most toaster warranties and my work contract is set to expire in a few months. I'm unsure that my body can even produce kids, given all the weird stuff that my reproductive system has gotten up to. And even if I can, I'm still not 100 per cent sure that I want to.

She smiled at me sympathetically. "Well, some women just aren't meant to have kids."

Hold up. Record scratch. What?

I blushed and changed the subject: How is work going? Light banter. Let me help you with those plates.

Inside, I went into a swoon of terrible feelings.

I felt stupid for even engaging with the question, with an acquaintance who, given all recent evidence, wasn't going to be able to really hear a note of ambivalence in a child-talk conversations. Not that this is my fault, necessarily, or that I should have pretended I feel something I don't; rather, just an acknowledgement that it can be difficult to refocus and see an issue from a perspective you don't share.

I was also horrified: not being ready for child-raising right now doesn't preclude me from changing my mind later. It's not like the requirement for having loved and wanted children is that you must have always wanted them.

I was angry. There's nothing as enraging as having someone who is so much farther ahead in the game of life -- this lady is a married homeowner with six years of stable employment under her belt -- condescend your lifestyle or choices.

And I felt sad, as though she had cursed me with a lifetime of childlessness by diagnosing my mixed feeling as a forever-and-always state of affairs.

I felt like getting pregnant right that moment, out of spite, as if I would drag my boyfriend into their guest bedroom and yodel out mid-coitus, "Who's not meant to be a mother now, lady!?"

In hindsight, that's probably not the most mature response.

As we go through the process of growing up, settling down, and making those Big Choices that will affect us the rest of our lives, it's important to remember compassion for those who aren't on the same path. It's especially important if your path has been two lanes of smooth, freshly-paved highway, where the only disappointments are when the gas station is sold out of your favourite gummy snacks.

My own path has been more of a gravel road with a blind curve or two -- no major accidents, but my car has some dents and the backseat is piled with Diet Coke cans. Since I'm competitive by nature, I envy, resent and admire the women whose paths seem so smooth. Maybe they aren't, but it's impossible to tell with an acquaintance who, on paper, is pretty damned impressive.

Since it's unlikely the child-talk will abate in the next few years, I have some requests:

That, when the topic of children comes up, you remember that not every woman wants children. They may have never wanted kids, they may not want kids right now, and they might simply be undecided. If and when you ask them if they want children, be prepared for a stammering answer, one that is trying to convey that the question might not have a simple answer.

In fact, to remember a woman isn't automatically obligated to answer the "do you want kids" question, just by virtue of owning a uterus. This is like asking everyone you meet if they want backpacks, just because they have shoulders. Having kids is a personal decision, one that affects women and the men they partner with in deep, private ways. It isn't really a casual question.

If someone does tell you that they don't want kids or they're on the fence, that you not respond with "Some women just aren't meant to have kids," or some variation on that theme. This should go without saying, but given my recent experience, I feel like I should spell it out.

I don't know what the right response would have been. Maybe a vague platitude about timing, or choices. Maybe a silent smile. Maybe an assurance that nobody has to decide anything today, or even -- and this might have been the best of a bad bunch -- a question about how I had arrived at my ambivalent place on the fence. Instead of dismissing a response that made her feel uncomfortable, she might have taken the opportunity to exercise some compassion.

Because really, if you are planning on becoming a parent, or even just a grown-up, the importance of empathic listening and compassionate conversation can't be understated. Practising with strangers at dinner parties is one way of making sure that, when your kids do finally arrive, you're ready to really hear what they have to say.

 

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I was at a dinner party recently where the topic of kids came up. My hosts, a slightly older couple, talked about how much they were looking forward to trying, a process they were going to start in th...
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09:24 AM on 07/23/2012
My response, as I haven't decided if I want kids yet and it is none of their business: "Sorry, what were you saying? I was trying to decide how to spend all my disposable income and free time."

Some of my family is really pushing it - thankfully they live on the other side of the world. The rest are happy for me as I'm doing very well career-wise and socially. Which is enough.
09:06 AM on 07/22/2012
"Having kids is a personal decision, one that affects women and the men they partner with in deep, private ways. It isn't really a casual question."

I get the point you tried making with this "article" but would like to point out that in some parts of the world, and since it's being published on the Canadian site, it applies here - that having kids is not just a "women and the men they partner with" thing. I know plenty of same-sex couples that have kids either by adoption, surrogacy, sperm donation to Lesbian couples and yes, to a lesser degree - the old fashioned way with previous spouses of the opposite sex before realizing/admitting they were gay.

I have a friend (we used to be much closer) who seems to be like the woman mentioned in the article. Everything revolves around her children. Bang on description of helicopter parent. Her kids are her "best friends". Every conversation comes back to her kids. It's almost as if she's lost any idea of who she is and if you don't appear to have children - well your opinion on many things doesn't count. Once the little darlings leave the house (in a couple of years) the parents are going to find themselves friendless because they've pretty much alientated everyone that used to be friends with them.
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07:57 PM on 07/22/2012
That's an excellent point. Although I can only really speak from my perspective as a straight woman, I'm not sure that there's the same assumption made of gay and lesbian couples that they want and will have children. While it's definitely a question that most people will be asked at some point, for women in relationships with men, it can come up over and over and over.
12:26 AM on 07/23/2012
Actually, as a gay man, I find that people assume that you can''t have kids or won't be having kids and for some reason, take pity on you in a condescending way "Don't you regret not being able to have kids?", (as if having children makes your life complete). Who says I'm not able? Who says I WANT kids? Who says I'm not already a parent via donation or adoption?

Actually, when I think about it, I think more of my gay friends are having kids right now than the straight ones.
08:10 PM on 07/21/2012
"That, when the topic of children comes up, you remember that not every woman wants children. They may have never wanted kids, they may not want kids right now, and they might simply be undecided."

I'd like to add more to the list of things to remember. Some women are privately dealing with infertility, miscarriage or other medical reasons why they can't conceive (or it's unsafe to do so). Some people haven't had their relationships work out and life hasn't brought them down that path in time. Sometimes it's not as simple as whether you want kids. And sometimes you don't want to explain these things to someone yet again.

I've learned, both through friends experiences with miscarriage as well as my own with cancer that the reasons why people don't have kids at that moment is best left unquestioned unless the person offers the information up themselves.
11:41 AM on 07/22/2012
"At that moment" being the key though. The question is usually not, "do you want kids right this minute", but more generally, "do your life plans include having kids?" The very fact one asks implies one does not assume they must...

Actually, the main reason for the author's dismay, as she admits herself, is her competitiveness. It seems she sees having children as one more item on a list of accomplishments, and the fact she has not yet ticked it off while her friend already has is a as painful as not having yet ticked off "have a great career with lots of money", "become rich and famous", or "bought and renovated a fantastic house"...Asking questions about any of these might be just as touchy for her...

Making a taboo out of discussing children does not seem to me to be a good way to deal with this. You don't want to get into details, don't. It's an opening to discuss if you want to, if you don't, move on. Now if the person insists and starts to pry, that is another matter...
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08:00 PM on 07/22/2012
You're right, there are a lot of things that I haven't done, but I doubt that, if an acquaintance asked about any of the examples you provided, she would follow up with, "Some women just aren't meant to make money/have a career/own a house."

I certainly don't want to make discussing kids a taboo, but would say that passing judgement on another person's reproductive (non)decisions is very much something I'd like to nip in the bud.
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06:42 PM on 07/20/2012
Kochany's biggest problem is her extreme immaturity . know 16 year old girls much more mature and together than she. Self-centered is just one of her biggest flaws. Stopped reading at the point of " ... yodel out mid-coitus, "Who's not meant to be a mother now, lady!?"

If she knew how little anyone really cares about her answers,she wouldn't give it another thought.
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05:13 PM on 07/20/2012
Why does it matter what she says or thinks? She's running on pure hormones at the moment.
Just nod smile and say uh huh.
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04:00 PM on 07/20/2012
Thank you for posting articles like this so that we don't have to believe that in this time and with these generations we are living in the film "The Stepford Wives". It's evident that a lot of people are craving security and they are finding meaning and purpose in the traditional forms. Hopefully we can continue to evolve beyond the old-fashioned expectations. They managed to do it in the straight-laced 1940's and 50's and we can do it again now.
03:55 PM on 07/20/2012
Jeez. Lighten up! She was making conversation, exchanging views about life. One could just as well complain that there she was, going on and on about herself, not caring about you. Instead, it seems it occurred to her, "Hey, enough about me. What about you? Do you want kids? (If you don't, that's fine too, don't think I'll look down on you!)" some women complain that it is assumed there is something wrong with them if they don't. She made it clear she didn't.

If someone was going on and on about her travel plans, (or running, or cooking), and she finally said, "What about you, do you like to travel (or run, or cook)? ", would you get as upset?
07:37 PM on 07/21/2012
With respect, I think the issue of having children is far more complex and a touchier subject than cooking or travel. Unless I'm misinformed, being unable to cook or travel is not likely to be a hotbed of painful issues, which having or not having children can be for some people.
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03:50 PM on 07/20/2012
Eeeep. I apologize on behalf of parents everywhere. We're not all single-minded and thoughtless.
01:27 PM on 07/20/2012
My advice is to get used to these comments. They will come up time and time again whatever stage you are in your life