I was at a dinner party recently where the topic of kids came up. My hosts, a slightly older couple, talked about how much they were looking forward to trying, a process they were going to start in the next few months. I'm friendly with these folks, and I had noticed that "their kids" came up in conversation a lot: "Our kids are going to wear this kind of hat," "Our kids are going to be such little meat-eaters," "Our kids are going to love this place." Despite not, you know, having any kids, I can understand that talking about your future family can bring these as-yet-unmet little people into sharper focus, which can feel nice. Planning can feel like doing, and when you crave a baby or two in your life, discussing the little rugrats at length can make it feel like they're almost here.
As we were clearing the plates, she asked me, "Do you want kids?"
I stammered out an answer. Yes. No. I don't know. I don't want kids right now, when my relationship is younger than most toaster warranties and my work contract is set to expire in a few months. I'm unsure that my body can even produce kids, given all the weird stuff that my reproductive system has gotten up to. And even if I can, I'm still not 100 per cent sure that I want to.
She smiled at me sympathetically. "Well, some women just aren't meant to have kids."
Hold up. Record scratch. What?
I blushed and changed the subject: How is work going? Light banter. Let me help you with those plates.
Inside, I went into a swoon of terrible feelings.
I felt stupid for even engaging with the question, with an acquaintance who, given all recent evidence, wasn't going to be able to really hear a note of ambivalence in a child-talk conversations. Not that this is my fault, necessarily, or that I should have pretended I feel something I don't; rather, just an acknowledgement that it can be difficult to refocus and see an issue from a perspective you don't share.
I was also horrified: not being ready for child-raising right now doesn't preclude me from changing my mind later. It's not like the requirement for having loved and wanted children is that you must have always wanted them.
I was angry. There's nothing as enraging as having someone who is so much farther ahead in the game of life -- this lady is a married homeowner with six years of stable employment under her belt -- condescend your lifestyle or choices.
And I felt sad, as though she had cursed me with a lifetime of childlessness by diagnosing my mixed feeling as a forever-and-always state of affairs.
I felt like getting pregnant right that moment, out of spite, as if I would drag my boyfriend into their guest bedroom and yodel out mid-coitus, "Who's not meant to be a mother now, lady!?"
In hindsight, that's probably not the most mature response.
As we go through the process of growing up, settling down, and making those Big Choices that will affect us the rest of our lives, it's important to remember compassion for those who aren't on the same path. It's especially important if your path has been two lanes of smooth, freshly-paved highway, where the only disappointments are when the gas station is sold out of your favourite gummy snacks.
My own path has been more of a gravel road with a blind curve or two -- no major accidents, but my car has some dents and the backseat is piled with Diet Coke cans. Since I'm competitive by nature, I envy, resent and admire the women whose paths seem so smooth. Maybe they aren't, but it's impossible to tell with an acquaintance who, on paper, is pretty damned impressive.
Since it's unlikely the child-talk will abate in the next few years, I have some requests:
That, when the topic of children comes up, you remember that not every woman wants children. They may have never wanted kids, they may not want kids right now, and they might simply be undecided. If and when you ask them if they want children, be prepared for a stammering answer, one that is trying to convey that the question might not have a simple answer.
In fact, to remember a woman isn't automatically obligated to answer the "do you want kids" question, just by virtue of owning a uterus. This is like asking everyone you meet if they want backpacks, just because they have shoulders. Having kids is a personal decision, one that affects women and the men they partner with in deep, private ways. It isn't really a casual question.
If someone does tell you that they don't want kids or they're on the fence, that you not respond with "Some women just aren't meant to have kids," or some variation on that theme. This should go without saying, but given my recent experience, I feel like I should spell it out.
I don't know what the right response would have been. Maybe a vague platitude about timing, or choices. Maybe a silent smile. Maybe an assurance that nobody has to decide anything today, or even -- and this might have been the best of a bad bunch -- a question about how I had arrived at my ambivalent place on the fence. Instead of dismissing a response that made her feel uncomfortable, she might have taken the opportunity to exercise some compassion.
Because really, if you are planning on becoming a parent, or even just a grown-up, the importance of empathic listening and compassionate conversation can't be understated. Practising with strangers at dinner parties is one way of making sure that, when your kids do finally arrive, you're ready to really hear what they have to say.
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Some of my family is really pushing it - thankfully they live on the other side of the world. The rest are happy for me as I'm doing very well career-wise and socially. Which is enough.
I get the point you tried making with this "article" but would like to point out that in some parts of the world, and since it's being published on the Canadian site, it applies here - that having kids is not just a "women and the men they partner with" thing. I know plenty of same-sex couples that have kids either by adoption, surrogacy, sperm donation to Lesbian couples and yes, to a lesser degree - the old fashioned way with previous spouses of the opposite sex before realizing/admitting they were gay.
I have a friend (we used to be much closer) who seems to be like the woman mentioned in the article. Everything revolves around her children. Bang on description of helicopter parent. Her kids are her "best friends". Every conversation comes back to her kids. It's almost as if she's lost any idea of who she is and if you don't appear to have children - well your opinion on many things doesn't count. Once the little darlings leave the house (in a couple of years) the parents are going to find themselves friendless because they've pretty much alientated everyone that used to be friends with them.
Actually, when I think about it, I think more of my gay friends are having kids right now than the straight ones.
I'd like to add more to the list of things to remember. Some women are privately dealing with infertility, miscarriage or other medical reasons why they can't conceive (or it's unsafe to do so). Some people haven't had their relationships work out and life hasn't brought them down that path in time. Sometimes it's not as simple as whether you want kids. And sometimes you don't want to explain these things to someone yet again.
I've learned, both through friends experiences with miscarriage as well as my own with cancer that the reasons why people don't have kids at that moment is best left unquestioned unless the person offers the information up themselves.
Actually, the main reason for the author's dismay, as she admits herself, is her competitiveness. It seems she sees having children as one more item on a list of accomplishments, and the fact she has not yet ticked it off while her friend already has is a as painful as not having yet ticked off "have a great career with lots of money", "become rich and famous", or "bought and renovated a fantastic house"...Asking questions about any of these might be just as touchy for her...
Making a taboo out of discussing children does not seem to me to be a good way to deal with this. You don't want to get into details, don't. It's an opening to discuss if you want to, if you don't, move on. Now if the person insists and starts to pry, that is another matter...
I certainly don't want to make discussing kids a taboo, but would say that passing judgement on another person's reproductive (non)decisions is very much something I'd like to nip in the bud.
If she knew how little anyone really cares about her answers,she wouldn't give it another thought.
Just nod smile and say uh huh.
If someone was going on and on about her travel plans, (or running, or cooking), and she finally said, "What about you, do you like to travel (or run, or cook)? ", would you get as upset?