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Not Too Late for Europe to Back Ethical Oil

Posted: 10/24/11 01:09 AM ET

Canada's Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver is holding out hope after the European Commission ruled this month that it would officially discriminate against oil from Canada's oil sands, labeling it as too high in carbon emissions to be imported by EU countries. Oliver thinks there's still a chance that the Europeans could come to their senses.

"We definitely don't think we've lost," Oliver told Reuters on Tuesday. "This is far from over." There's a "good chance" that Europe could reverse course, he said, "because we believe science is on our side." The European Union still has to pass the Commission's directive.

Oliver's right of course: The science doesn't back up this puzzling decision. The Europeans are happy to unfairly smear oil sands oil as environmentally problematic, and yet they'll give their blessing to the oil from elsewhere, even if its carbon profile is similar.

And that's just the environmental question. All that OPEC oil Europe seems prepared to commit itself to, instead of Canadian oil, also comes with a massive conflict footprint. Recently we've watched in the news as Venezuela's been condemned for trampling basic civil rights, like freedom of the press and democratic elections; we see sectarian violence erupting in Nigeria; and, of course, the Iranians--who also sell loads of oil to Europe--are carrying out secret executions, brutally persecuting gays and lesbians as well as religious minorities, and imprisoning journalists. There's also the little matter of the terrorist bombing the Iranian regime had reportedly been planning inside the United States (until American intelligence disrupted it in time).

If there's any oil that Europeans should be worried about, it's all the bloody conflict oil entering its borders and that it will continue to depend on as long as they insist on closing their doors to ethical, Canadian oil. Let's hope our natural resources minister is right and that there's still reason to believe that Europe could yet do the right thing and recognize that Canada's oil sands oil isn't only environmentally competitive with many other sources, but it's also one source of oil that doesn't fund repression, war, persecution, and terror. Canada doesn't just have science "on our side" as Oliver points out. We have peace, security and human rights on our side, too.

 

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Canada's Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver is holding out hope after the European Commission ruled this month that it would officially discriminate against oil from Canada's oil sands, labeling it...
Canada's Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver is holding out hope after the European Commission ruled this month that it would officially discriminate against oil from Canada's oil sands, labeling it...
 
 
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02:30 PM on 10/24/2011
The Europeans have common sense on their side too.

How much is the processing of this slop going to cost? Do you really think they are buying your ethical argument?
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02:48 PM on 10/24/2011
Who cares how much it costs? Private companies pay the costs and then sell the oil for (hopefully) a profit.
02:57 PM on 10/24/2011
Yeah that sounds real competitive, all the OPEC nations have to do is drop their price a bit and the slop is selling at a loss.

Unless you think sticking a pipe in the ground and watching the pure oil shoot in the air is somehow more expensive than endless processing of tar.
08:43 PM on 10/25/2011
Argument is moot. It's not about how much goo is in Alberta, it's about production. since it's a mining and processing, and rich areas have already been exploited, production is going to cap at 5 million barrels per day and start to decline in 10 years wasting billions of cubic meters of water. It's not enough to supply Europe or China. It's not even going to supply US.
02:12 PM on 10/24/2011
Looks like the Europeans have common sense on their side too.

By the time this gooey muck is processed, how much will it cost? How much of the environment will be ruined?

Ethical is probably the only label you can give it because it stinks in every other department. Oh and is case you havent noticed the way despots keep falling in the middle east they will soon be calling their oil "democracy oil"
02:02 PM on 10/24/2011
The Europeans are hypocritical, targeting Canadian oilsands oil, because it's become fashionable , among the IPCC's tainted political organzation, to attack the Canadian oilsands, while sourcing their own oil from some the most corrupt and disgusting regimes on earth.
At present, the oilsands are the very least of their enormous problems. !!
02:40 PM on 10/24/2011
The oilsands were around just a long as the middle east oil

I guess the oil companies preferred corrupt and disgusting regimes.
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02:52 PM on 10/24/2011
Fashionable is le mot juste. Those opposing the oil sands are generally woefully uniformed about the issue. They oppose because it's the thing to do.
11:57 AM on 10/24/2011
Calling any oil ethical is a slap in the face of reason and common sense.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
01:35 PM on 10/24/2011
Demonizing our clean and ethical source of oil and supporting the thugs and tyrants who supply most of the oil is a slap in the face of the people murdered and tortured by those oil regimes.
Why do you support torture?
02:18 PM on 10/24/2011
Yeah right, since when did the oil industry give a cr*p about human rights?

I guess the first 50 years they were just confused.
02:32 PM on 10/24/2011
lets call a spade a spade OK. I didn't say I supported one over the other. It just makes me laugh when they slap the term Ethical on oil. Neither type is morally correct. That's why we need to support and look for alternative renewable energy. It doesn't help that the big oil companies and regimes have fought tooth and nail over the last century to keep us addicted to oil. Google 'Great American Streetcar Scandal'.
11:34 AM on 10/24/2011
I wouldn't be surprised if I have read over 100,000 articles, posts, blogs etc over the past few years and I don't think I've seen one that has as many lies as this one. The oil sands defenders are no different that the big tobacco companies before they were exposed as liars.
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11:49 AM on 10/24/2011
And yet you did not cite one specific item in the above article that you said was incorrect. Apparently name calling is considered debate.
09:15 AM on 10/24/2011
Ethical Oil?? Don't make me laugh. How is it ethical to produce the dirtiest, most polluting oil in the world, involving rape and pillage of the surrounding environment, and creating an open-scab pit mine the size of some small countries, and then have the brazen gall to label it "ethical"??
Ethical as opposed to what? More Big Oil spin tactics and lies.
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10:21 AM on 10/24/2011
The disturbed area is about 600 sq km, or about one-eighth the size of greater Toronto. There aren't many countries that small.

The oil sands alsoi produce about as much CO2 "well to wheels" as Venezuelan, Nigerian, and Californian oil.

Which points to a common theme about this debate. Those protesting the oil sands often are grossly misinformed, even to the point of not being able to cite a single accurate statistic on it.
10:47 AM on 10/24/2011
And those that defend the oil sands are generally liars. Process uses us 3 barrels of water for every barrel of bitumen that has to be stored or dumped somewhere, and where did you get "produce as much CO2 as Venezuelan oil? First of all, Venezuela has more tar sands than Canada. Secondly, she is producing only conventional oil and doesn't need to cook the tar sand in hot water to separate it. CO2 is generated from heating the water for separation.
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CanadaStan
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01:38 PM on 10/24/2011
Nigeria?
You understand you are talking about Nigerian oil?
They spill more oil every year than BP.
Their oil releases more C02 than our oil.

BTW, do you know of any countries that are 600sq km in area?
What is the name of that country?
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07:23 AM on 10/24/2011
Here is a summary of a peer-reviewed scientific study that outlines the environmental issues that are created by oil sands mining:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2010/09/athabasca-river-how-many-politicians_07.html

The halo of contamination around the mine site is at least 50 kilometres in diameter and is impacting Aboriginal settlements downstream from the operations.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
01:39 PM on 10/24/2011
The air in Ft.McMurray is cleaner than the air in Calgary, toronto, Montreal, etc etc etc.
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12:58 AM on 10/24/2011
"Not to Late for Canada to Back Ethical Energy" - now that would be a program I could get behind.
12:44 AM on 10/24/2011
"Canada doesn't just have science 'on our side'... We have peace, security and human rights on our side." That we have drifted steadily towards the 'Orwellian' use of language is indicated by the unethical use of the the term 'ethical' (and 'peace' and 'human rights'), not as human goods in themselves, but as pimped terms to sell oil.
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01:40 PM on 10/24/2011
Try again, in English, not gibberish.