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Tough on Crime, Facts Be Damned

Posted: 10/27/11 06:13 PM ET

No wonder the Harper government has it in for Statistics Canada -- they keep coming out with really inconvenient statistics.

Why else would they have eliminated the mandatory long-form census last year, despite the uproar from virtually every person and every organization across the country regardless of political stripe -- a rare consensus. Every policy-maker knows that you need facts, you need information with which to make the right decisions for government and society. But this government? God forbid you pay attention to the facts -- particularly if they get in the way of the policy you already decided you want. Facts be damned.

Inconveniently, Statistics Canada has gone and done it again. It has just reported that "the national crime rate has been falling steadily for the past 20 years and is now at its lowest level since 1973." The severity of crimes has also gone down -- the lowest since 1998. There have been fewer murders -- to the lowest rate since 1966 (45 years ago!). Attempted murder, car theft, robbery, serious assaults, break-ins, even impaired driving -- are all down. Sexual assault and child pornography have gone up, but the former could be affected by more people being willing to come forward, and the increase in child pornography is likely an increase not in its incidence, but in people being caught, thanks to greater international cooperation and much better technological search and investigative abilities. But no crime is OK, and everyone wants to reduce it more. The question is how?

The Harper government keeps talking about the 'victims' rights.' But really, isn't it a bigger right to not become a victim in the first place? And victims may, understandably, want revenge, but that serves only a base human instinct that society -- and government policy -- must rise above. The rest of society wants to prevent more crime. Revenge doesn't do that, and virtually every study has shown that deterrence is NOT the most effective at preventing crime. (Those damn facts again.)

Harper's proposed crime legislation flies in the face of the facts. More and more, we see the results of other 'tough on crime' efforts -- and they don't work. Putting more people in jail for longer periods does NOT reduce crime; community efforts at prevention actually work; efforts to reform drug addiction and address mental illness are far, far more effective in creating a safer community. And in times where fiscal restraint is so important, preventative efforts are far more cost-effective than prisons. But despite all of the evidence to the contrary, the Harper guys want to be 'tough,' and just throw all the 'bad guys' behind bars -- at huge expense.

We need look no further than next door to benefit from the U.S.'s own hard-earned lessons. Many states took the 'tough on crime' approach -- it was, in the day, the Conservative way. Over the years, however, they have seen it fail, at huge cost financially and to society. Several states have now taken much different, more preventative approaches and have achieved much better results -- at far less cost. And, rare for the U.S., this issue isn't stuck in partisanship politics -- indeed, some of the most conservative of U.S. Republicans are saying, bluntly, that the Harper approach is backward. The U.S. Right on Crime movement is pushing for exactly the opposite of what Harper's government wants to do. It has some pretty heavy hitters, and they back up their calls for change with a lot of -- wait for it -- statistics. Evidence that shows that the decades-old effort in the U.S. of throwing more people in jail for longer not only hasn't worked, it's made things worse. And it has cost a fortune. A quote from the Right on Crime website: "Conservatives know that it is possible to cut both crime rates and costly incarceration rates because over the past 10 years, seven states have done it: Maryland, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Texas." It takes no small amount of courage, by the way, for politicians to acknowledge a mistake, which makes this Conservative turnaround even more significant.

So here's a plea to Mr. Harper that I never thought I'd hear myself make: Even if you won't rely on Canadian statistics and the majority of Canadian studies, please take a page from those U.S. Conservatives. They get it -- and they have a whole lot of statistics to back them up.

 
No wonder the Harper government has it in for Statistics Canada -- they keep coming out with really inconvenient statistics. Why else would they have eliminated the mandatory long-form census last ye...
No wonder the Harper government has it in for Statistics Canada -- they keep coming out with really inconvenient statistics. Why else would they have eliminated the mandatory long-form census last ye...
 
 
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john frodo
armchair expert
11:18 AM on 10/28/2011
I think Harper is deliberately creating a criminal underclass to use as a foil.
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June Conway Beeby
10:24 AM on 10/28/2011
This callous plan of insensitivity to the needs of seriously mentally ill (SMI) citizens, is simply another arm of society that gets away with the abandonment of these citizens, who because of an unlucky roll of the genetic dice, go on to develop a no-fault chronic biological disease of the brain.

What other group of sick people would society turn a back on, this way??
09:35 AM on 10/28/2011
With the so-called " Rehabiltation of Inmates" being nothing but a MYTH, what is the right answer here. Most are living negative lifestyles before prison and usually end up going back to what they already know when they get out Criminality!!!! We will always have BAD people, always did, still do and always will. I just don't want them in my backyard. It is usually the same people commiting crimes over and over again which again shoots down "rehabilitation" . Again, what do we do????
11:15 AM on 10/28/2011
Any studies to back up your claims of myths and facts? The reality is that the Canadian system has a much, much lower recidivism rate than the American system. I don't know if it's possible to alter a person's moral compass, but at the very least we can teach people some basic life skills and help them get a job when they get out so they have options.
01:24 PM on 10/28/2011
I know what I see Shift in shift out same faces even their kids. What do you see from your Ivory Tower????
09:16 AM on 10/28/2011
The Harper Government's apparent ideological disdain for 'facts' is an area the progressive parties should be constantly emphasizing, along with the 'facts' that support their own positions. Most Western cultures are still basically 'progressive' in the sense of being respectful of 'facts'. Most Canadians are still 'progressive' in the sense of being respectful of 'facts'. The progressive parties simply must be more clear and vocal about the difference between a 'progressive' government and a 'regressive' government -- and the ramifications for the future of following one path over the other.
07:47 AM on 10/28/2011
An important article all Canadians should be concerned about. A concrete list needs to be drawn up outlining measures that are actually working, then used to petition the Harper Government. This government needs to acknowledge the facts.
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CarlyQ
Without followers, evil cannot spread.
01:26 AM on 10/28/2011
I think we all know that Harper will not back down on this. Conservatives are a notoriously stubborn lot - or perhaps their brains are simply not designed for critical thinking. What it takes liberals an afternoon to figure out, it takes conservatives decades.

If that.
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Kristopher Leang
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11:49 AM on 10/28/2011
its true the recent conservative Texan judges agreeing with left wing prison police is proof of this. the article made it seem as if they had come to some great "epiphany", although this is something anyone with a computer spending 20 minutes researching could figure out themselves.. embarrassing an 11 yr old with a computer and the internet is more informed than our political elite.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
10:23 PM on 10/27/2011
Has Martha paid back her leadership debts yet?
Or is she a deadbeat breaking the Election laws like the rest of the liberals who ran in the leadership race?
01:30 AM on 10/28/2011
It appears that you are a bit off topic....
11:18 AM on 10/28/2011
If you can't argue facts, you can always attack the messenger :)
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piceaglauca
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09:36 PM on 10/27/2011
I can't understand the author's position regarding declining crime rates. I wonder where she gets her information when she accuses the government of reducing information by eliminating the compulsory aspect of the Canadian census not that I can remember the question which asked if my father had been incarcerated. I would like to see her footnotes. As for declining crime rates I suppose reflected by the number of people in prison and provincial jails it is obvious that over the period of Liberal governments there were a number of policy changes resulting in fewer charged ever getting to a jail or prison state. Many were still on the streets fulfilling what ever courts mandated. So to use incarceration statistics as legimate information to suggest crime has declined is a misnomer. Now that "the tough on crime legislation" has been presented I am sure we will be able to get people back to where they should be. Add to the list those that promote legitimacy of marijuana laws. These people also reflect part of the problem and must be the left overs of the Liberal legacy of freedom, probably a throw-off from the 60's.
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CarlyQ
Without followers, evil cannot spread.
01:32 AM on 10/28/2011
Census Canada is not tracking crime by those incarcerated. It's tracking them by the crime committed and/or reported.

Liberal policies regarding crime (and preventing it in the first place) have been PROVEN to work across the world time and time again.
01:33 AM on 10/28/2011
I don't need to be a leftie or a rightie to realize that the pot laws are an ass.
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Steve Lives
The Venus Project ... look it up
06:41 PM on 10/27/2011
He has been told, again and again. And the reply has always been "Lalalalalalala I can't hear you..." When is the next election again?
12:10 PM on 10/28/2011
Exactly. Conservatives don't like to listen to anyone but themselves. Opposing their policies only seems to embolden them. It's like they're obsessed with the perception of "toughness" - both with this kind of legislation and in their general attitude towards compromise. They think they have to appear "tough" in all circumstances, at all costs, even if doing so is foolish and short-sighted. "Stick to your guns" and "stay the course" even when evidence suggests you're wrong.

Yeah, the next election can't come soon enough. They're starting to do some real, lasting damage to this country.
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12:13 PM on 10/28/2011
I recall something about Harper or someone. saying Canada will not be recognizable by the time Harper is done. I fear it will be too late by the next election. Occupy Canada has potential for at least slowing down the transformation.