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Rebutting Peter Kent

Posted: 02/25/2012 11:27 am

First, props to HuffPost for getting Peter Kent into its office to answer some questions. Goodness knows Canadians need better answers from an Environment Minister whose reputation is that of acting on behalf of the tar sands industry rather than the environment.

But, given his awful record, the printed interview came off very much in the vein of "kid gloves."

Where was the line of questioning exposing his many failures to either regulate or enforce existing environmental regulations, as his job description requires? His office has been repeatedly sued for failure to enforce endangered species legislation. All independent experts believe his efforts to rein in carbon pollution fall far short of his own stated targets, and reports are his proposed regulations for the tar sands will let emissions there grow, rather than rapidly shrink as the science says they must. And, under his watch, scientists remain muzzled. We could go on, and on.

This man simply isn't doing his job, and HuffPost should have done a better job of calling him on it. Regarding points he did make in the interview, I offer the following rebuttals:

1) When Peter Kent says that his government's position is that climate change "is a global challenge that requires global solutions," this is code for his government refusing to do much of anything to rein in Canadian carbon pollution until others do it first. In other words, much like in the nuclear war context he's defaulting to Mutually Assured Destruction, with the key difference that in this case we get there by continuing to do nothing rather than something. Also contrast this position with Harper's statements about showing leadership and not waiting for others anytime it comes to shooting or bombing around the world.

2) It's pretty rich that Peter Kent claims to have had "strong" exchanges with the Chinese as to whether they will participate in a new climate change regime, when it was in fact China and many other countries criticizing Canada for dropping out of Kyoto, the only real game in town on that front. The Chinese national news agency (an arm of the government) called Canada's position "preposterous" and "irresponsible."

3) Peter Kent's claimed reliance on "improved technology" to tackle climate change both at home, and by selling it overseas, is quite frankly pie in the sky. Carbon capture and storage, if it ever proves technically viable (and there are huge doubts), is very expensive, meaning industry would only ever do it if they were forced to do so (unless heavily subsidized), something Peter Kent seems totally unwilling to do. So, the whole technology thing is for now empty rhetoric to distract people from the fact that the responsible regulator -- Peter Kent -- is sitting on his hands.

4) His speculation about foreign economic interests bankrolling environmental campaigns in Canada is pure fantasy unworthy of a minister of the Crown, showing just how far we have fallen as a country in the rhetoric used by politicians today. Neither Kent nor anyone else has any proof of this, because there isn't any. It's a red herring used to distract from the real issues -- the issues that Peter Kent is supposed to be addressing as Minister of the Environment. Furthermore, what is Kent's position on the fact that foreign oil companies have bankrolled Enbridge's lobbying and PR campaign around the Gateway tar sands campaign? Again, failure to ask him the right questions lets him entirely off the hook in his rhetoric.

5) Finally, Peter Kent says that Kyoto is "almost irrelevant" now. His government has done more than any other on the planet to make it so. He has no viable plan to tackle global warming so that the children of Canada can have a safe future. This is his biggest failure as Environment Minister, and how history will judge him unless there is a massive turnaround in his performance.

 
 
 
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ProgressiveCDN
A Progressive Moderate
03:33 PM on 03/27/2012
Bravo Mr. Price!

All 5 points were spot on!
You really pointed out the hypocrisy of having an Environment Minister (whose job is to enforce and create environmental regulations) who is vehemently opposed to all environmental regulations and is actively working to dismantle Canada's current environmental regulations not to mention our prior commitments to the international community.
07:31 PM on 02/26/2012
I’m getting quite fed up with the “it’s the Liberals’ fault” if we did nothing rhetoric. The fact that the Liberals didn’t do enough certainly does not justify the Conservatives doing even less, even scrapping many of the few efforts that were done when they took power, like the government information website on climate changes. Two wrongs don’t make a right and this type of “transferring the responsibility” tactic is not something I would expect from anybody older than kindergarten age.

I also wonder how he twists the numbers to conclude that the “Liberal government before us actually allowed emissions to go up 35 per cent rather than down six”. Emissions went up from 592 Megatons in 1990 to a historical high of 734 Megatons in 2008 (24% increase) and the Conservatives were in power during many of those years: and a 2.4% increase from 717 Megatons in 2000, the moment at which the Kyoto protocol was ratified.

Source: http://www.ec.gc.ca/Publications/E197D5E7-1AE3-4A06-B4FC-CB74EAAAA60F/CanadasEmissionsTrends.pdf
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Release the Hydrogen Economy now!
12:49 PM on 02/26/2012
Oh, there was a lot more that Kent should have been questioned on.

The biggest one is the emergence of The Hydrogen Economy which would eliminate everything from Kyoto to Durban which is nothing more than a cover for the continuance of The Carbon Economy.

How would have Kent handled these questions on The Hydrogen Economy.

Mercedes, last summer, drove this hydrogen fuel cell electric car some 33,000 pollution and trouble free kilometers through the U.S., Australia, Asia, China and Europe: http://tinyurl.com/6nxrcq2 .

The Freedom Tower in NY will be powered entirely by Hydrogen Fuel cells: http://tinyurl.com/7cwhdnc .

This is the new Apple Cloud Data Center which will be powered by Hydrogen Fuel Cells: http://tinyurl.com/7p7usj8 .

This is a Delaware company planning to use 135 Bloom Energy Fuel Cell Servers to sell power to the grid: http://tinyurl.com/6od78ld .

And that crowd that went to Copenhagen never went down to the dock to examine this ship: http://tinyurl.com/7rs3fcg .

But surely HuffPo could have queried Kent on Oil Tanker pollution given this article from England: http://tinyurl.com/ybnaca9 and made him sit up and take notice because a bunch of these will be parked on our west coast blowing their pollution to shore.

The UN Maritime Organization, for 50 years, has allowed Ocean Tankers to burn 4.5% sulpher content Diesel Bunker Fuel, the highest polluting fuel on the planet.
08:59 PM on 02/26/2012
Looking at the few of your links that supply info. The PureCell Model 400 fuel cells planned for use in the Freedom Tower convert natural gas to usable electricity and heat. The Apple Cloud Data Center fuel cells convert biogas. The bloom boxes also convert natural gas. The Viking Lady uses liquefied natural gas. We are talking about an energy conversion process, so you can’t say that these projects are “powered” by hydrogen: even less since these projects do not even use hydrogen.

We often see claims of the high efficiency of hydrogen. One reason is a nasty little trick, consisting of calculating efficiency based on fuel lower heating value instead of higher heating value like is traditionally done for conversion devices, the hydrogen industry has a tendency to abuse. Another trick consists of only looking at the fuel cell conversion efficiency rather than looking at the entire production/transport/storage/conversion chain.

Fuel cells have a definite efficiency advantage in applications where storage is not an issue and we can use both the electricity and heat produced, like buildings. For automotive application, the entire chain of transformations results in a very low efficiency. Liquefying and storing the natural gas of the Viking Lady requires a large part of its energy content.

So yes, fuel cells have a place in a less carbon intensive energy mix. But that certainly does not involve a full scale hydrogen “economy” which would simply result in an even worst situation than the current one.
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MyTake
Release the Hydrogen Economy now!
10:15 PM on 02/27/2012
Reasonable logic from you on the information able to be provided in a 250 word limit.

However, there is much more to The Hydrogen Economy just by splitting the water molecule.

The Oil Cartel builds Hydrogen Gas Plants and feeds the Hydrogen Gas by pipeline into their refineries where it is used to lower the pollution from their coking processes. Here is a most recent example: http://tinyurl.com/6umyf7f .

So, it begs the question why not build these plants in cities, install Hydrogen Gas pumps on their service station lots and let Mercedes, Honda, KIA, Toyota and GM start selling their Hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric cars.

Oil cartel law firms jumped on this discovery very quickly: http://tinyurl.com/yegrx7g .

Imagine that, splitting a water molecule with a radio frequency.

This MIT Prof, after figuring out how the chemistry in a tree leaf splits the water molecule, was forced to go to India to continue his development: http://tinyurl.com/4lv3kgt .

And since 90% of the global population lives within 100 miles of an ocean coastline, you simply use Tidal Energy, the most abundant continuous energy source on earth, and use these Tidal Generators to run electrolysis units and pipe the hydrogen gas to the shoreline: http://tinyurl.com/775y6w8 .

But, the The Oil Cartel can't PATENT the water molecule and then SELL its electrical power to you when you take the molecule apart and let it snap back together again.
06:53 PM on 02/25/2012
Good call on Kent's supposed interview. I had always respected him as anewsman. As a politican I really have no comment, but as Minister of the Environment his performance has been pathetic.
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03:51 PM on 02/25/2012
Good article Matt. These are the kinds of questions I would prefer Peter Kent answer. Only one problem. He doesn't have any responsible answers. Or if he does he won't reveal them.

Sometimes even, I think he really doesn't know anything about systems ecology. So for him, hiding behind his government could be a smoke screen for his own ignorance on the environment. Unless Harper sets him loose we won't know for sure.

Regarding him not doing his job though, he is doing exactly the job he has been assigned by his government; to conceal the real science and evade any threat to the expansion of the tar sands.
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canuckistaneh
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01:57 PM on 02/26/2012
I would be surprised if he knows any science at all. Shouldn't a minister be somewhat of an expert in the field they are in charge of?
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03:43 PM on 02/26/2012
One would expect. But in politics, to be a Cabinet Minister, it doesn't seem to matter as long as you have at least some mediocre business skills.
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greenmonk
The Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself
02:34 PM on 02/25/2012
I'll add my thanks for this rebuttal, Matt.
I was appalled at the simple, predictable questions HP chose to ask. And of course no follow up on the evasive double-speak non-answers. For instance one question asked was if his government believed in global warming and if it was at least partially caused by man. He answered the first part in the affirmative, but was mute on the second. This refusal to tie man's involvement in global warming is a key part of conservative's do-nothing plan.

Allowing him to just go off on his deflective talking points with no intelligent follow-ups is as bad a job as all the rest of the corporate muzzled MSM.
12:43 PM on 02/25/2012
That Peter Kent so fatuously parrots the Conservative regime's fallacious environmental talking points only reinforces the fact that he, the rest of the CPC ministers and the prime minister himself, have lost complete credibility.

That Huffington Post softballed interview questions to Peter Kent reinforces the generally accepted and agreed upon idea that Huffington Post is shallow and thin echo of its former self.
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12:05 PM on 02/25/2012
Thank You for this article. The vast majority of citizens assume that the government is taking good care of the environment; after all we have a dept and a minister with a title.They are unaware that he is working for "the other side" against the environment. You can not point this out too much. Maybe people will finally get the message that everything is really not ok.