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Is Podcasting Poised For a Comeback?

Posted: 09/03/2012 12:00 am

Does anyone listen to podcasts anymore? Does anyone even care?

This past week, I published episode #321 of my weekly audio podcast (Six Pixels of Separation -- The Twist Image Podcast). Each week I have a conversation with someone interesting in the media, marketing, advertising, business book or personal development space. I've been at it since 2006, and I have no idea if anyone listens or cares about it. iTunes will tell me that it's popular (it ranks high on their Management and Marketing chart), but I don't look at my analytics.

I consider the podcast my guilty pleasure. It's a chance to corner someone I like, respect and/or am interested in and ask them anything and everything that I am curious about. Beyond that, it's a bit of a lab for me as well -- a place to experiment with audio content and create the kind of audio you can't typically hear on the radio. The social media by-product is that I freely publish the conversation (unedited) for all to hear, share, comment and connect with.

Podcasting was supposed to be "the next big thing."

Podcasting (both audio and video) came hot on the heels of blogging. It seemed like podcasting could do to radio what blogging was doing to print (namely, creating an entirely new genre with an even more impressive roster of new thinkers). It hasn't happened. Some will blame the fact that it's called "podcasting," while others will claim that it's still not intuitive or easy to find and download the content. Everyone will agree that it hasn't exploded in popularity like blogging has, and that it's even harder to figure out where the money is when it comes to podcasting.

That could all change.

I have no data to back up this thought. There are no statistics to quantify my thinking, but it feels like podcasting is about to turn a corner. There are a handful of podcasts that are acting as a key leading indicator that consumers have an appetite for longer, in-depth and content rich audio programming. In short, everything that you thought the Internet wasn't about in a world of 140 character tweets, Facebook status updates and YouTube viral video sensations. These deep and rich treasure troves of content are also gaining mainstream attention, and it all seems to be drawing more and more energy towards podcasting: a medium that many have already written off.

Five podcasts that could resurrect the medium (in alphabetical order): 

  • Foundation with Kevin Rose. He co-founded Digg, Pownce, Revision3 and sold his latest start-up, Milk, to Google where he is currently working on their venture fund. This video podcast features Rose in conversation with other start-up founders and soon-to-be icons of Silicon Valley. The conversations are all personal and profoundly powerful as the show provides a live commentary on how business - as we have known it - is changing. This podcast is documenting the fast rate of change.
  • Here's The Thing with Alec Baldwin. Did you know that award-winning actor, Alec Baldwin, had a podcast? I didn't. Music pundit, Bob Lefsetz, turned me on to this audio podcast. A new episode comes out every two weeks, and if his episodes with Billy Joel and David Letterman are any indicator of success, this podcast is going to become massively popular. Turns out that Mr. Baldwin doesn't have to just stick to his day job. He's a great podcast host.
  • Nerdist Podcast with Chris Hardwick. With over 1.6 million followers on Twitter, Chris Hardwick is riding the wave of Geek Culture. Along with being an actor and stand-up comic, Hardwick's eclectic podcast brings interviews and conversations with everyone from Ozzy Osbourne to Tina Fey. It's a great show that also features some of his friends, improv madness and more. It's a beacon for creative ways to use audio. And yes, this is the kind of stuff you will never hear on radio.
  • Pursuit of Spark with Julie Burstein. I became a major fan of Julie Burstein after reading her book, Spark - How Creativity Works (which she co-wrote with Kurt Anderson and was based on her award-winning radio show, Studio 360 with Kurt Andersen for Public Radio International). You can imagine how amazing it is for someone with that kind of depth in radio to make the move over to podcasting, and Burstein does not disappoint. With this podcast, the discussion is with people from all walks of life who are pursuing their ideas with creativity, and are willing to discuss the challenges and passion of living a life fulfilled.
  • WTF with Marc Maron. Where did Marc Maron come from? How is it that almost every name in comedy is ready to line-up and be a part of his podcast? If you dig a little bit, you'll uncover a rich career of stand-up comedy and acting, but these deep dives into the lives of comedians (and now entertainers and musicians) is one of the best regular pieces of audio content you will find anywhere (podcasts ad beyond). Maron makes each show deeply personal and you feel like you are, literally, sitting there on the couch right next to him as some of the world's funniest entertainers talk serious about their craft.

It's getting better every day.

Are more people listening? Maybe not. But, with content this strong (and more and more people entering the fray with niche content), perhaps we're about to see the first time - in the history of the Internet - where "build it and they will come" becomes a truism rather than a cautionary tale.

Do you listen to podcasts? Which podcasts have captivated your attention? 

Mitch Joel is president of Twist Image -- an award-winning digital marketing agency. HIs first book, Six Pixels of Separation, named after his highly-successful blog and podcast of the same name is a business and marketing bestseller. His next book, CTRL ALT DEL, will be published in Spring 2013.

 

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08:40 PM on 09/03/2012
Mitch,
Podcasting never went away. What happened were the early adopters were geeks. So shows like twit.tv went trough the roof. 8 Years in Leo was going "Podcasting is Dead" because the early adopters had jumped on board and his audience was growing at a much slower pace. What we are seeing now is podasting going more mainstream. Marc Maron was unbookable as a comedian, and so he started podcasting after being fired from radio. Now he's being booked in places he couldn't get the time of day from because he has a very loyal (very large) audience. Now every comedian has a podcast. Alec's podcast is also interesting. I'm assuming next will be the authors, musicians, and anyone else who can't get any attention from main stream media. We've gone from BROADcasting to NARROWcasting and podcasting is replacing drive-time radio that's more commercials than content.

2004 was the opening act was the sound check. Now podcasting is ready to cement its place as a content delivery system.

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02:37 PM on 09/03/2012
We started podcasting left wing radio 66 weeks ago. It seems that striking back against the right-wing main stream media monopoly is as much a needed therapy as it is an educational experience. And although viewership is slowly increasing, it IS increasing. Our best marketing tool seems to be You Tube snippets of video recorded political events.
02:17 PM on 09/03/2012
Another point I would like to make is that there are some great up and coming people doing podcasts. It doesnt always have to be about the main stream.http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/mitch-joel/podcast_b_1851131.html?show_comment_id=183356219#
02:15 PM on 09/03/2012
I think Podcasting is only getting stronger. I am new to podcasting and have found great help from the International Association of Internet Broadcasters. http://www.ibroadcastnetwork.org . I think the quality of podcasting can only get better when there are resources that will help you out.
11:44 AM on 09/03/2012
Love podcasts! Thx for the recommendations - will definitely have a listen... :)
11:33 AM on 09/03/2012
The most consistently funny podcast out there in my opinion is The Comedy Button: http://www.geekbox.net/archives/category/podcasts/comedy-button/
There should be an addiction warning on this podcast. It's outrageous, scandalous, full of truthiness and energy.
Two other podcasts I never miss an episode of is the GiantBomb Podcast: http://www.giantbomb.com/podcast/
its ostensibly a Video games podcast, but that is only the tip of a topic iceberg, with awesome, insane, witty banter being the main attraction. You can have zero interest in games and still enjoy it to the hilt. http://www.giantbomb.com/podcast/
The last one on my must listen list is Kevin Smiths Smodcast. Full of hilarity and heart: http://smodcast.com/channels/smodcast/
10:10 AM on 09/03/2012
I find podcasts are a great way to stay up on the leading edge of many industries. I especially like the interviews Mitch Joel does on his weekly podcast (www.twistimage.com/podcast). The different formats that podcasters take brings out their strengths. For example, Bob Knorpp's "The BeanCast Marketing Podcast" (www.thebeancast.com) has several people in on the conversation and allows for several perspectives on a topic - it's like being at a dinner party with very interesting marketing people. "Marketing Over Coffee" (www.marketingovercoffee.com) is another marketing podcast with John Wall and Christopher S. Penn where they dive a little deeper into the weeds and give you in depth looks at marketing topics. There are plenty more available and you can find topics that are of interest to you. Any of these podcasts beat "Dancing With the Stars" any day of the week.
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05:50 AM on 09/03/2012
I think the problem with podcasts is 'share-ability'.
My Mom was known for jumping up from the dinner table and saying "Oh, I have a book on that...", then off she would go to find the book, return and start thumbing through hundreds of pages, trying to find the quote she wanted. If she ever found the quote(s), I don't know because the entire family had finished the meal, conversation, done the dishes and moved on. So too, is the problem with podcasts.
People love to share 'nuggets' from the internet and a vlog or blog is specific, short and easy to find or send a link. Podcasts are like handing someone a book and saying, somewhere in there is something pertinent...but try to find it.
12:49 PM on 09/03/2012
This is a very valid point, and I've heard Leo Laporte of TWIT mention the same thing. He explained they're less worried about search now and more interested in support social discovery. There's an effort called Podlove to enhance podcast protocols and standardise ways to share "deep links" and "chapters" within podcasts (http://podlove.org/specifications/). The podcast discovery service I run, http://player.fm, is working to support these for any podcast.