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The Real Victims of Teachers vs. Dalton McGuinty? The Students

Posted: 09/25/2012 4:07 pm

He Said...

It's not often I agree with the Premier of this province, but this time I'm onside. As most are aware, the Liberal chief has slapped our educators with a two year, "no strike/wage freeze," and the teachers are screaming, claiming he's pumped a slug into the collective bargaining process.

McGuinty's argument is, sorry about that, but times are tough, the coffers are bare, we're in hock up to our ears, so a Preem's gotta do what a Preem's gotta do!

But the question is: is Dastardly Dalton flaunting the law, stomping on the teacher's constitutional rights? They believe he is, and have taken their fight to the courts. (I can't wait to see the bill for that battle!)

The teachers, of course, fairly or unfairly, have been tagged as "greedy," their critics trumpeting, they have no cause to whine. They sound off, that in this economy, teachers are far better off than most, pointing to their handsome holiday breaks, excellent benefits and retirement packages.

The teachers, meanwhile, fearing no further loss of favour, have backed up their beef with a pointless, mean spirited tactic -- a complete withdrawal, or intermittent involvement in extracurricular activities. While this childish stunt may annoy their political foes and piss off the parents, the only ones hurt by it, are the kids!

I would suggest, that the big thinker who came up with this bit of strategy, isn't smart enough to be involved in education. How was this supposed to play out? Were distraught students expected to cry to mom and dad, who in turn, would tear the big, nasty Premier a new one, forcing him to back down?

It was a dumb move, and now the teachers are the bad guys in everyone's eyes. The Premier was right when he pointed out to the teachers (rather sad that he had to) that their beef was with him, not the students, and the place to deal with him was at the polls.

If our teachers aren't mature enough to see their hissy fit as silly and grossly unfair, maybe their next move should be holding their breath.

She Said...

The kids are just back to school and already much of what they enjoy in extra-curricular activities is being whittled away. Once again they are pawns to be used in a political game. Some teachers decided not to attend the curriculum night used to introduce parents to the education line up for the year. It's a night where they hope to engage the parents and inspire the kids. What does a no-show say about that?

We often hear teachers say that there is little respect given to them in the classroom. That has to be tough and we always tried to instill in our children a respect for their teachers. We expected a certain standard of behaviour and if they didn't meet it, which happened on occasion, we knew we would hear from the school which was fine with us. We would back them up. It will be difficult to develop a rapport with the students and parents when you withdraw an important part of their school life.

What do you remember from your school days? I'd venture to say that many of the memories come not from what happened in class but from those extra-curricular activities, the life lessons learned and the great teachers who supported you in that quest.

Teachers make a very good living, as they should. Since McGuinty came to office, average salaries are up by 34 per cent, teachers are making on average $83,500, and they retire with a very handsome pension -- far better than those in the private sector. To ask them to accept a wage freeze, a ban on strikes and to give up sick day pay outs at retirement isn't outrageous. To be facing the prospect of a sanitized school experience, coming as this does on the heels of a long hot summer off, is!

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He Said... It's not often I agree with the Premier of this province, but this time I'm onside. As most are aware, the Liberal chief has slapped our educators with a two year, "no strike/wage freeze,"...
He Said... It's not often I agree with the Premier of this province, but this time I'm onside. As most are aware, the Liberal chief has slapped our educators with a two year, "no strike/wage freeze,"...
 
 
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11:47 PM on 09/30/2012
I'm happy that many of you agree that this isn't about punishing students. In fact, this has nothing to do with students, but has everything to do with teacher's rights to the things that have been in place for years and years and are suddenly needing to be changed. I'm in my 4th year of school to become a teacher and I can tell you that the amount of work put into organizing and planning curriculum can be very time consuming. I've done student teaching placements within the public school system and child care system, and will be doing another one in a little over a month, and I will say that teachers are not given enough credit for the job they do. Yes, they get summers and holidays off and yes, they get paid well with good pensions, but they also put in the work. As some people have mentioned, extra curricular activities are voluntary, and many teachers do not partake in them regardless, so I don't see what the uproar is over it. Teachers, as well as any other worker of Ontario, has the right to negotiate and have a say in what is best for them. As for anyone who believes that bill 115 is a good thing, maybe you need to get reeducated yourself.
02:31 PM on 09/26/2012
ORDERED BACK TO WORK ,a common resolution by today's govt's teacher's are paid to teach ,if some of decide to volunteer after school it's their right to stop ,put the blame where it belongs MC SQUINTY
08:15 AM on 09/26/2012
Extra curricular activities are correctly named, they are extra. A lot of time and commitment are channeled into these activities but they are by no means the essence of school. Teachers are professionals who are hired to teach curriculum, and they create communities in their classrooms and schools to build independence, social skills and strengthen the individual to participate successfully in society. The varied "extra" activities are done on a teacher's personal time and it is their option to not participate when their democratic rights are being dismantled. It may be wise of you Mr. Mott, to understand the full scope of this "pointless" endeavour because as a worker in Ontario, your future earnings and rights could be significantly impacted.
08:06 AM on 09/26/2012
It's too bad that union leader even suggested the idea of teachers not taking part in extra curricular activites as a means of protesting. Another solution may be that perhaps teachers should be paid for the time they spend doing their extra curricular activities with students, then the beef would be redirected towards the government (if they didn't want to pay for it) and not towards the teachers, as far as parents are concerned. In some ways I don't feel sorry for teachers because they are well paid and have benefits that most would drool over. However I would never want their job. Most of the teachers I have met have been extremely dedicated and care about their students. But by not taking part in extra curricular activities it is indeed the students who lose and it probably causes conflict within the teachers themselves, because they DO care and realize that students are not getting the full benefit of the school experience.
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see-ellen2001
10:01 PM on 09/25/2012
Yes students are affected. ANY action the teachers take will affect students. Working to rule re extracurricular is not affecting the student's academics. As far as teachers being seen as the "bad guys", what's new?
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Kapjam
09:55 PM on 09/25/2012
Paul, if you feel that extra-c is that important, why don't you step up to the plate and offer to supervise or coach a team? It will likely involve about a 100 hours of your time for no pay. The students will be fun to work with, their parents....not so much.
01:34 PM on 09/26/2012
sorry, but the union knocked that one down because of liability. i would be the first one there to help out the kids, but the teachers are holding the kids hostage, and nothing will be ok until they get their money and sick time back.
02:33 PM on 09/26/2012
The work to rule has NOTHING to do with money. Our union (AEFO) told us BEFORE they started negotiating with the province NOT to expect a raise. That argument is false and is just being pushed by the right-wing anti-teacher faction. Being told "accept this contract or we will impose it on you" is the problem. It is NOT bargaining in good faith.
08:59 PM on 09/25/2012
Sorry Mott, you're all wrong.

Withdrawing VOLUNTARY, UNPAID labour isn't about punishing kids. It's about protesting the severe assault on democracy that McGuinty has made by eliminating our right to collectively bargain. Maybe before going around insulting the "big thinkers" who came up with one of the only real ways to protest he passing of Bill 115, you should check your own thinking. It seems pretty misguided and limited to me.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.