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Don Cherry and Hockey Fights Are Just Part of the Game

Posted: 10/13/11 03:48 PM ET

Are fights necessary in hockey -- or at least NHL games -- to attract fans?

Or should fighting be banned as dangerous, dehumanizing and unnecessary, as many now insist?

This age-old issue has resurfaced thanks to Don Cherry's provocative remarks at the start of this year's NHL season that upset three former NHL "enforcers" who've come out against hockey violence and linked head injuries to things like alcoholism, drugs and, for all one knows, bed-wetting.

Frankly, I'm never very clear on what Cherry has said after he says it. He makes his point at the time, but it gets muddy in the recalling and re-telling. I'm puzzled at why he was scathing towards the three former enforcers he named, all of who seem genuinely miffed (even puzzled) at Cherry's broadside.

Three NHL tough guys have died recently -- two suicides and one drug overdose.

And that, rightly, has increased the concern over head injuries in hockey, especially concussions, which we now know (and didn't know before) can last a long time and can be very dangerous if they happen repeatedly.

Some people are more prone to concussions than others, so it's pretty hard to justify head shots, or anything that might damage the brain.

Hockey enforcers have been used to intimidate others -- or even protect marquee players from rival goons. Wayne Gretzky owes much to the protection provided by Marty McSorley when both were with the Los Angeles Kings.

Hockey has changed since the days of the enforcer -- faster and better. But every team has tough guys on the ice, most of whom are also gifted players.

None of this justifies or rationalizes the danger of concussions.

But don't confuse concussions, head shots, or cheap shots with fighting.

It could be argued that few things are less dangerous than a hockey fight.

The combatants are padded to the hilt, have poor leverage on skates, they take off their gloves, wail away at each others' helmets with bare fists, pull the sweater while holding the other guy's arm, and are eventually parted and sent to the penalty box.

The crowd loves it, and little harm is done.

Damage occurs if someone's head crashes heavily on the ice -- be the head encased in a helmet or not. But that's relatively rare. Concussions to Eric Lindros and Sidney Crosby were not from fights, but in checks -- legal or otherwise.

The untimely deaths of three ex-NHL enforcers is reason enough to examine the phenomenon of head injuries. These happen in other sports too -- none of which are as fast or as skilled as hockey.

Face mask offences in football are potentially lethal, and players realize it. But fighting isn't part of football -- nor is it part of baseball, though the bench-clearing brawl gets the adrenalin moving in both fans and players, but is mostly for show.

Only in professional hockey is fighting considered part of the game. And to those who love the poetry and beauty of the game, it's a pity, because hockey fights are anything but elegant or graceful. Still, little damage is done.

Perhaps those who run NHL realize the "sport" is also entertainment. Fans love the overtime shootout and relish a hockey fight that's no more lethal than a professional wrestling match where everything is for show.

As for Don Cherry, he's an adored Canadian, who espouses values most of us subscribe to. When he rants we listen, pay little attention, and wonder where he buys his jackets.

 
Are fights necessary in hockey -- or at least NHL games -- to attract fans? Or should fighting be banned as dangerous, dehumanizing and unnecessary, as many now insist? This ...
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07:08 PM on 11/09/2011
Ban the fighting! Stop the "this is Canadian," "this is what hockey is about" talk. There is absolutely nothing positive about the fighting and it does nothing for the game.
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Whistlejackett
Hey stop doing that
08:15 AM on 11/07/2011
Check this fight in Russia, and it's the coach to boot..http://youtu.be/iXrqv7jQ6u8
09:50 AM on 11/02/2011
hockeys been fine for about 100 years why are we changing it for helicopter moms, bleeding hearts, and Americans. its a rough tough sport, you don't see Americans quickening the pace of the slowest game in the world, baseball. for us Canadians. why cause we don't care. just like they for the most part don't care about hockey.
oh by the way lacrosse is Canadas official national game and there is fighting in that.
intimidation and heart is the reason we always (mostly) win. and fighting is sometimes policing the game in the past sidney crosby wouldn't be sitting out with a concussion because no one would dare blindside him. sitting out 2 or three games is not a deterrent for millionaires, dropping the gloves with Jerome Iginla is .
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11:06 AM on 10/23/2011
Mr. Worthington,

Many people outside of Toronto and Boston wonder why the buffoonish Cherry didn`t follow the same path to extinction with the rest of the dinosaur species.

But you knew that already, didn`t you? You just don't care about what goes on outside of Toronto.

Your unwillingness to look at the bigger picture is why you can`t understand that the time for fighting in the NHL has passed.
10:37 PM on 10/14/2011
Cherry & Worthington - 2 dinosaurs whose relevance has passed.
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Warren Yuill
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01:43 PM on 10/14/2011
Any time you get knocked-out you will have suffered a serious brain injury. If you get punched in the head enough times, the accumulative effect is about the same. What does fighting add to the game of hockey? More risk for the players.
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10:57 AM on 10/14/2011
I stopped watching hockey over 20 years ago. The clutching and grabbing, the violence and the sense that hockey was becoming more spectacle than sport pushed me away. When I see Don Cherry in his outrageous clothes and listen to his pro-violence rants, I am reminded of the old World Wrestling Federation - loud ignorant voices, well-planned violence and people in funny clothes, all presented as sport!

I have served as president and in other capacities of old-timer hockey associations. I have been a "hockey parent". I had to get out of it all because there were too many people involved who supported the violence as a solution to on-ice and off-ice issues and who didn't care about the message that this sends to young fans and players. I got to a point where I decided that I couldn't make excuses for these people anymore, that I didn't want to associate in any way with them and that the beauty of well-played hockey could not overcome its pro wrestling optics and the spectacle of players hurting other players with malicious intent.

There is nothing sportsman-like in the attempt to remove an opponent from competition by purposefully injuring him. It is a tactic that is no different in motive than gang-member slayings - don't compete and risk the chance of losing when you can intimidate, weaken or eliminate a significant opponent by violent means. I make no apology for the analogy!
10:03 AM on 10/14/2011
Should fighting be banned as dangerous, dehumanizing and unnecessary? Of course it should. Look at soccer, the worlds most popular game. Fighting is simply not tolerated in that sport. And it's popularity continues to grow. The real problem is not with the fighters themselves. They are little more than pawns in the play, and self-admittedly dehumanized in the process. The real problem lies with fans who lust for this stuff. And, of course, guys like Don Cherry. I quit watching hockey years ago. For this reason.
12:25 PM on 10/14/2011
I've seen more fights at a soccer game than any other sport.
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Warren Yuill
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01:44 PM on 10/14/2011
Thats the fans.
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TT Esty1
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01:28 AM on 10/14/2011
Much of what you say could be said about war. It's only when someone gets shot that harm is done. It is understandable that some experience a vacarious thrill watching others fight. However, the collateral damage is not experienced by the thrill seekers. They swill their beer and and hoorah their peers and leave unencumbered by the battle. Their only payment is the price of the ticket and their own brutish needs.

As for no harm done one could only reflect of Cherry's rant to fully undertand how his need to see physical confrontation caused him to malign others. Is his attack not a verbal assault since he is long time past the time of posturing any physical threat.? Cherry slips into minds past when pomposity passed for strength and rapidity of speech for intelligence.
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12:44 AM on 10/14/2011
"As for Don Cherry, he's an adored Canadian", in which part of Canada would that be? I think he is becoming the pariah he deserves to be, nationwide. Why would any rational human being want to promote fighting in the fastest contact sport in the world? It makes no sense to include violence it is Canada's "beautiful game". I know many non-pros a brother included who have been badly hurt as a result of hockey violence. I don't want my kid who has no chance of becoming a pro player to lose his intellect to satisfy the blood lust of men such as Cherry.
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09:21 PM on 10/13/2011
--The crowd loves it, and little harm is done--

Gee, over in Europe, there is no fighting in hockey.

Gee, over in Europe, the ice surface is much larger that in North America.

Gee, over in Europe, players learn the coordinated skills of stick handling, shooting and skating and do all three at the same time.

The Europeans come over and take up 50% of the NHL jobs.

Our Canadian kids cannot compete with European skill levels.

Two spots on every NHL roster is taken up by thugs. These thugs could not make any elite team in Europe. So Canadian kids are held out of hockey because roster spots are taken up by thugs.

My fondest wish would be that the writer was a hockey thug and had to go out in front of 18,000 people every night and engage in a fight in which he lost 1 out of every 3 bouts. And then to drown out his sorrow of having lost and enduring the stress of fighting every game night, he resorted to drugs and alcohol and pain killers.

Bob Probert was a skilled fighter. He fought often and succumbed to alcohol and drug abuse. Upon his death, at age 45, his brain was donated to medical research in Boston where it was found to be subject to degenerative brain disease. He confided, once, to his wife that he had about 10 concussions.

The writer seems to be concussed in writing this krap.
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12:46 AM on 10/14/2011
I think he bonked his head on the monitor.
12:27 PM on 10/14/2011
who won the gold and silver in the last olympics? Canada and the US
08:01 PM on 10/13/2011
He's right, it IS part of the game. The part of youth league hockey was the fighting. Even the adults didn't try to stop it. Stop being a bunch of softies.
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05:28 PM on 10/13/2011
"....and little harm is done." Ecactly where did you get your medical degree?
04:33 PM on 10/13/2011
You can be entertained by lions without feeding them Christians. You can be entertained by fast, skillful and graceful hockey, without fights and injurious violence. Try it.
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04:01 PM on 10/13/2011
Most professional sports have a pretty straightforward rule about fighting:

You fight. You get kicked out of the game.

And it doesn't seem to stop those other professional sports from making money. End of story.