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Guns Don't Kill People -- Bad Policing Does

Posted: 06/05/2012 2:05 pm

Depending on who you listen to, last weekend's shooting spree at Toronto's Eaton Centre was a sign of gun violence getting out of control, or an isolated "incident" in North America's safest large city.

Take your pick.

Certainly shootings are up, even if the murder rate is down -- or in the statistically "normal" range over the past years.

Some worry that what police are the shooting calling a personal dispute rather than a gang related shooting -- killing one and wounding six -- signals a repeat of the Jane Creba killing at the same Eaton Centre.

The Creba killing was in 2006 -- nearly six years ago. She was an innocent victim caught in the crossfire of a gang feud. This most recent outrage is quite different. Or so we are told.

What's strange, even ominous, is that the alleged shooter was under house arrest and qualifies as a low-life, while the dead victim had a record and was no boy scout.

It's hardly reassuring when police say this shooting isn't gang-related, just personal. There are a bunch of people with bullet wounds, including a 13 year old from Port Hope, who will have difficulty distinguishing the difference.

On CFRB yesterday, Christie Blatchford tended to support the police view that gun violence is not out of control in Toronto, "the safest big city in North America." She disputed the findings of the Sun's Joe Warmington that shooting occurrences this year are some 40.5 per cent higher than this time last year, with 134 shot, according to police statistics.

Christie scathingly dismisses her friend Joe as "Detective Warmington."

A city where gun violence is under control or out of control is academic to someone who is shot while minding his own business. And it should concern all of us.

A soldier who is shot in an ambush in a brush war is just as dead, or injured, as a soldier shot during a famous battle in a big war.

When murders (as opposed to random shootings) in Toronto run at a ratio from 1 to 1.5 a week, it indicates a city more secure and safe than most.

But who are the main victims of shootings in Toronto?

We aren't supposed to know. Police are not supposed to profile those who commit shooting crimes. A few years ago a respected detective was demoted for speaking out about Vietnamese crime in Toronto.

Every year, newspapers run photographs of shooting victims. Every year a high proportion seem to be from minorities in, arguably, one of the most ethnically and racially mixed cities in the world.

A problem is, that if we cannot diagnose where the problem is, how can we affect a cure? In this case, determining which group (if any) is doing the shooting and which group (if any) is mostly being shot at.

We do know that much of the shootings are gang and drug related.

But the victims of shootings are often reluctant to cooperate with the police, whose job becomes increasingly frustrating and difficult.

This is hardly a new problem.

Back in 1964 I covered the trial of Jack Ruby, accused of shooting Lee Harvey Oswald, alleged assassin of president Kennedy. The trial was held in Dallas, that year dubbed murder capital of America.

In an attempt to show the differences between Dallas and Toronto, I wanted to compare murder statistics of the cities. In those days Toronto had roughly one murder a week. I interviewed assistant district attorney Bill (The Burner) Alexander about murders in Dallas and he said there were something like 60 a year.

I forget the number, but it was so close to Toronto's rate that I felt my comparison story falling apart. As I was about to leave, I asked how many of those murders were white and how many were black. He looked puzzled, and said they only counted white killings, but if I wanted the number of African-Americans killed (he didn't use that term) the numbers shot into the hundreds. I took out my pen again; the story was revived.

In Toronto there are a disproportionate number of Jamaicans murdered or shot every year, and a disproportionate number of the shooters are Jamaican. They profile one another, and only when big mistakes are made, does the city get uneasy.

Until we openly acknowledge the origins of gun violence, and try to protect victims by curbing the violators, gun statistics are going to keep rising, until the penalty for even carrying a gun becomes too risky for even Jamaicans.

 
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03:04 PM on 06/06/2012
'Guns don't kill people' sounds like the bullshit one hears in the US - promoted by the NRA.
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colpy
06:38 PM on 06/06/2012
Yep.

Except it isn't BS, it is truth.

I have never known a firearm to kill anyone, and I've spent my life surrounded by them.
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Donnerskinde
I used to be a people person,till people ruined it
01:52 PM on 06/06/2012
Peter the last time your opinion was relevant was back in 1964. I love his approach to this saying gun violence instnt the problem its the fact that we don't curtail the rights of scary minorities that is the problem. I'm amazed that this kind of thinly veiled racism is still acceptable in todays society, and once again I throw a condemnation at Peter for his right wing, reactionary, bs. The fact of the matter is crime is poverty related, not so much race related. Poor white, poor black people, poor native people, whatever your ethnic group the crime rates increase in direct relation to degree of poverty. So if people like Peter really cared they would be out there trying to help the poor and to get harper to stop giving handouts to his rich contributors and try to fix the country for everyone.
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....is politically radioactive.
05:15 AM on 06/06/2012
And what do you think about the fact that Harper is taking away one of the tools of effective policing (long gun registry), Peter?

Conservatives can't have it both ways.
08:04 AM on 06/06/2012
"Conseratives can't have it both ways." They think they can.and they're getting there.
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rickthaluddite
What noisy cats are we
09:56 AM on 06/06/2012
The Toronto Sun can have it both ways-- they are the most "Hooray for cops" paper in the city. Even this piece is more about show us pictures of the dangerous minorities than critical of the police.
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Ansdlmol
11:39 PM on 06/05/2012
There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for anybody other than a police officer to own and carry a hand gun. All others should be surrendered and destroyed.
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colpy
11:36 AM on 06/06/2012
Uh huh.

Ever hear of recreational shooting?

Classical bullseye, slow-fire and rapid fire are both Olympic sports.

Action shooting is increasingly popular, be it cowboy shooting, IPSC, or PPC........

To say nothing of our right to enjoy the products we purchased perfectly legally.

And the absolute uselessness of harassing one of the least violent sections of society (licensed gun owners) in some idiotic attempt to control immigrant gang-bangers on the streets of Toronto.

It requires a special kind of stupidity......
08:58 PM on 06/05/2012
Public servants are more interested in keeping their jobs than doing their jobs. Thank you, conservative voters!
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11:45 PM on 06/05/2012
And a double thank you to the ones who voted twice! Oda
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colpy
02:19 AM on 06/06/2012
You have some evidence of this??

Please, call Elections Canada or the RCMP and file a complaint
08:06 PM on 06/05/2012
Worthington's final sentence is inexcusably racist.
07:05 AM on 06/06/2012
Jamaicans are not a race.
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07:05 PM on 06/05/2012
Guns don't kill people? Really, cause I'm pretty sure they do... but so does bad policing...

"even carrying a gun becomes too risky for even Jamaicans."

Wow, really? Last time I checked its getting easier to get a gun and harder for authorities to know how many people have... But that is part of the agenda...

"Until we openly acknowledge the origins of gun violence"

Well Peter, it starts with a gun... then you go from there... How did you get this job anyway?
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colpy
09:58 PM on 06/05/2012
If guns cause murder, then forks cause obesity.

The weapon used at the Eaton Centre was a handgun. Handguns have been strictly controlled since 1934m and controls have only become more restrictive in recent years. (Not that it has done a lot of good)

Violence never starts with the gun.......I have yet to see a firearms get enraged, and decide to do a person harm.

All in all, Mr. Arbiter, your post lacked elegance.....in fact, it was nonsense.
09:49 AM on 06/06/2012
Your gun fork analogy is nonsense and I'm guessing you know it.

Guns don't cause murder. Well sure, because that would be anthropomorphizing them which is not rational. However they sure are enablers. It's much harder to kill someone from 10 or 20 paces with a knife, piece of pipe or a 2x4.

A hand gun can be concealed, brought to the scene and used with awesome force from a safe distance. How would that not be appealing to someone intent on murder.

The easier it is to acquire such superiority, the more appealing it becomes.

A better comparison might be the stark difference in gun related deaths in the US, where guns are freely available, and Canada, where guns are heavily restricted.

Maybe our attempts at gun control do some good after all.
02:01 PM on 06/06/2012
"Last time I checked its getting easier to get a gun"

When was the last time you checked? This statement is wrong & you need to do some research prior to making these assurtions.
07:05 PM on 06/05/2012
From what I recall hearing, there has been a great deal of discussion of the causes of gun violence. More often than not the cause is attributed to socio-economic status that are caused by negative social surroundings, poor housing, lack of employment, incomplete education, and systemic/racial discrimination. Mr. Worthington, sir, you are advocating for racial profiling, and by extension discrimination.

I am half Aboriginal and half white and I can speak from experience, overcoming a couple of those social determinants is immensely challenging. In many cases, individuals in these communities face all of these barriers not just a few. One does not simply get a job or get an education when you have no supports.

My siblings and I all went to university and are contributing members of society - one is a high school teacher, one is a university professor, one is responsible for province wide operations, and I am a fund development officer. You know what one of the biggest barriers to success has been? Discriminatory profiling. The belief that Aboriginals can't work or won't work.

Profiling breeds discrimination.
07:16 AM on 06/06/2012
I think you missed the point. Worthington is saying you'd never know there was a problem in a particular community without reporting the stats. You don't need to be from a particular race or culture (I'd hope) to hear that ~50% of deaths in native communities are due to suicides and know there is a problem that needs addressing. If those statistics were held back for fear of labeling the person that would report them as a racist, or tarnishing a community, then the problems will continue to worsen and the whole society is harmed.

With respect to barriers to success for aboriginals, I may be misinformed but as far as I know there are a certain number of positions specifically held open for aboriginals at every university in the country; also in the professional degree programs. Can we stop the blame cycle and start taking a little personal responsibility (as it seems you and your family have done.).